El Sabio
24 Jun 2004, 02:04 AM
Hi all I'm new here.
Hey, I'd like to get some opinions here. What players would you like to see on la seleccion and why? C'mon lets hear the fans' serious choices!
I'm not a huge Lavolpe fan but he's doing a reasonable job, this summer will tell us a lot. I'm excited for the Olympic team and those youngsters coming thru to the full team eventualy, he's done good there. As for the senior team he has a decent squad going now, but I'd like to see others.
I'll mention some untested players and more experienced ones...
Erick Espinoza. Has anyone ever noticed what a good debut he had for Mexico back in the 2001? Gold Cup vs. El Salvador (Aguirre as coach) Maybe its making too much of one game, but he seemed like the dynamic, athletic, midfielder that Mexico needs so badly on El Tri.
David "El Magic" Mendoza. I know he has played for lesser teams and may not be the most disciplined player, but has anyone noticed his ball skills and athletisicm? You may notice that's a consistent theme with me, I believe Mexico needs to cultivate more athletic players onto the national team. In a game versus America in Azteca this season he did not start, but came on in the second half and with his very first touch he controlled a long ball nutmegged "Gringo" Castro and ran in to cross. Then he tormented Castro the rest of the game beating him with speed and faints and causing America's right side defense to break down many times. Tavo Valdez is okay, more disiplined, with average speed, but Mendoza simply brings more to his team.
Kikin Fonseca. Most people probably wouldn't disagree with this. Probably because of the Lavolpe Hugo issue he won't get a chance. But he is a special player. One of the only Mexican strikers who actually scored gols this season, he can play with espaldas al arco, heads very well, and score with either foot! Isn't this the just player Mexico need most of all when we always seem to have trouble actually scoring (vs good teams). Fonseca also has a knack for dribbling, he seems to be able to beat defenders even though Fonaseca doesn't look fast or tricky, but he just gets it done. Part of it is because he can dribble using both feet. Call him up please!!!
Parejita Lopez. See above. I used to be really high on him, I'm less so now, but he still looks a good player to bring on as a sub if you need more penetration down the right. He's more iffy than the others.
J. Beltran. We have a few good center backs, buit it can never hurt to have a few more with some international experience for depth. His first ever cap against the USA in '99 was one of the best debuts I've ever seen. He looked like a veteran with loads of experience and ability. He is a little slower now, but still very able I think. Also he's tall. As for center backs Marquez, Davino, Maza are 3 good tall guys, with Osorio an able fill in even though he's short, and Briceno good as the left-center guy in a 3 man defence. I'm always in favor of giving some caps to get guys some expereince to develope depth.
Chuy Mendoza. He seems to do whatever a coach needs. Very good left foot, able to dribble around defenders, and track back and defend himself if needed. Has the speed to do it. Very good player.
Oscar Dautt. I know he's had some errores garrafales, but he is overall pretty good, and been so for a long time. And besides Sanchez right now, who can we honestly say would do a good job coming in if Sanchez was injured? Conejo Perez isn't what he was, maybe he can be but... Moises Munoz, good but zero experience internationally. Who else, Jose Corona? In any case, maybe my main point here is just that during "easy" seleccion games, we should to give caps to some other porteros, so if Sanchez ever goes down, its not panic time... cause that can lose you big games more than any other position.
Should be on the Olympic team, David Toledo. This chavo can play. He was a sub for Pumas this season but when he came on he was very quick, energetic, classy touches, and had a brilliant gol.
I'm kinda tired of seeing Tri games where our old (or somtimes not that old) slow players simply get out run, or don't have enough movement to keep the ball to use what skill they have. Take the last Mex-USA game. Sure Pavel Pardo has a great right foot, but he was useless against the US because he was pressured and doesn't have the speed to keep a fast player away long enough to make a good pass or shot. He was beaten many times, and was useless...worse than useless actually as he let in Donovan easliy several times, and was pressured enough that he gave away the ball cheaply. Same with Borgetti. He does have great header placement and can score goals when you deliver it right to his head, but at the internatinal level (and even in the liga now) he doesn't have the movement to ever get to the ball...CAN'T lose a defender (forget the Dominica amateurs). Then with an open goal against the US he misses. Why'd he miss? I think it was cause he was too slow to get to the ball properly thus had to strech awkwardly to shoot, before the chance was lost. Shouldn't be there. He's just way too limited. I see it happen in international futbol. Look at Beckham, he's built his career on his brilliant right foot. But his influence over a game isn't that great and is probably going down. When he is closed down fast in a game by better athletes, he doesn't have the speed or movement to make some space and time to use his foot to pass/cross/shoot brilliantly. He still can do it sometimes, but if he didn't have this limitation he'd be waaaaay better. Its why he is mostly influential at set plays where he has all the time. The difference is Beckham has average to slightly below average speed. Pavel, Borgetti, and some others have terrible speed. It was the same with Victor Ruiz, great right foot, but not usable at internatinal level where opponents close you quicker. All this is why I'm glad Lavolpe has stuck with Bofo even though he hasn't scored (until Dominica). He's the type of player we don't see often, very unpredictable for defenders, speedy and tall.
Bueno ya he hablado demasiado ;-),
Mexicanos, ?!?que dicen que opinan?!?!?!?!!!
Hey, I'd like to get some opinions here. What players would you like to see on la seleccion and why? C'mon lets hear the fans' serious choices!
I'm not a huge Lavolpe fan but he's doing a reasonable job, this summer will tell us a lot. I'm excited for the Olympic team and those youngsters coming thru to the full team eventualy, he's done good there. As for the senior team he has a decent squad going now, but I'd like to see others.
I'll mention some untested players and more experienced ones...
Erick Espinoza. Has anyone ever noticed what a good debut he had for Mexico back in the 2001? Gold Cup vs. El Salvador (Aguirre as coach) Maybe its making too much of one game, but he seemed like the dynamic, athletic, midfielder that Mexico needs so badly on El Tri.
David "El Magic" Mendoza. I know he has played for lesser teams and may not be the most disciplined player, but has anyone noticed his ball skills and athletisicm? You may notice that's a consistent theme with me, I believe Mexico needs to cultivate more athletic players onto the national team. In a game versus America in Azteca this season he did not start, but came on in the second half and with his very first touch he controlled a long ball nutmegged "Gringo" Castro and ran in to cross. Then he tormented Castro the rest of the game beating him with speed and faints and causing America's right side defense to break down many times. Tavo Valdez is okay, more disiplined, with average speed, but Mendoza simply brings more to his team.
Kikin Fonseca. Most people probably wouldn't disagree with this. Probably because of the Lavolpe Hugo issue he won't get a chance. But he is a special player. One of the only Mexican strikers who actually scored gols this season, he can play with espaldas al arco, heads very well, and score with either foot! Isn't this the just player Mexico need most of all when we always seem to have trouble actually scoring (vs good teams). Fonseca also has a knack for dribbling, he seems to be able to beat defenders even though Fonaseca doesn't look fast or tricky, but he just gets it done. Part of it is because he can dribble using both feet. Call him up please!!!
Parejita Lopez. See above. I used to be really high on him, I'm less so now, but he still looks a good player to bring on as a sub if you need more penetration down the right. He's more iffy than the others.
J. Beltran. We have a few good center backs, buit it can never hurt to have a few more with some international experience for depth. His first ever cap against the USA in '99 was one of the best debuts I've ever seen. He looked like a veteran with loads of experience and ability. He is a little slower now, but still very able I think. Also he's tall. As for center backs Marquez, Davino, Maza are 3 good tall guys, with Osorio an able fill in even though he's short, and Briceno good as the left-center guy in a 3 man defence. I'm always in favor of giving some caps to get guys some expereince to develope depth.
Chuy Mendoza. He seems to do whatever a coach needs. Very good left foot, able to dribble around defenders, and track back and defend himself if needed. Has the speed to do it. Very good player.
Oscar Dautt. I know he's had some errores garrafales, but he is overall pretty good, and been so for a long time. And besides Sanchez right now, who can we honestly say would do a good job coming in if Sanchez was injured? Conejo Perez isn't what he was, maybe he can be but... Moises Munoz, good but zero experience internationally. Who else, Jose Corona? In any case, maybe my main point here is just that during "easy" seleccion games, we should to give caps to some other porteros, so if Sanchez ever goes down, its not panic time... cause that can lose you big games more than any other position.
Should be on the Olympic team, David Toledo. This chavo can play. He was a sub for Pumas this season but when he came on he was very quick, energetic, classy touches, and had a brilliant gol.
I'm kinda tired of seeing Tri games where our old (or somtimes not that old) slow players simply get out run, or don't have enough movement to keep the ball to use what skill they have. Take the last Mex-USA game. Sure Pavel Pardo has a great right foot, but he was useless against the US because he was pressured and doesn't have the speed to keep a fast player away long enough to make a good pass or shot. He was beaten many times, and was useless...worse than useless actually as he let in Donovan easliy several times, and was pressured enough that he gave away the ball cheaply. Same with Borgetti. He does have great header placement and can score goals when you deliver it right to his head, but at the internatinal level (and even in the liga now) he doesn't have the movement to ever get to the ball...CAN'T lose a defender (forget the Dominica amateurs). Then with an open goal against the US he misses. Why'd he miss? I think it was cause he was too slow to get to the ball properly thus had to strech awkwardly to shoot, before the chance was lost. Shouldn't be there. He's just way too limited. I see it happen in international futbol. Look at Beckham, he's built his career on his brilliant right foot. But his influence over a game isn't that great and is probably going down. When he is closed down fast in a game by better athletes, he doesn't have the speed or movement to make some space and time to use his foot to pass/cross/shoot brilliantly. He still can do it sometimes, but if he didn't have this limitation he'd be waaaaay better. Its why he is mostly influential at set plays where he has all the time. The difference is Beckham has average to slightly below average speed. Pavel, Borgetti, and some others have terrible speed. It was the same with Victor Ruiz, great right foot, but not usable at internatinal level where opponents close you quicker. All this is why I'm glad Lavolpe has stuck with Bofo even though he hasn't scored (until Dominica). He's the type of player we don't see often, very unpredictable for defenders, speedy and tall.
Bueno ya he hablado demasiado ;-),
Mexicanos, ?!?que dicen que opinan?!?!?!?!!!