2016 Olympics Discussion

[withoutthee88]

Well. There we go. More than once has a nation had both the Olympics and the World Cup. Therefore, no problem for England to have it in 2018.



Fair enough. Maybe I should have said "the vast majority" of an Olympics is staged within 1 city.

Brazil 2014 & 2016

England 2012 & 2018

This is getting stupid. The Summer Olympics and the World Cup are the world's most premier tournaments. How about actually spreading it around. If you want to have it in Europe, have it in Europe, but at least spread it around to a different country.

[Panfilo]

Can we stop with the statements that Obama is going to help the bid. lol

[comme]

Brazil 2014 & 2016

England 2012 & 2018

This is getting stupid. The Summer Olympics and the World Cup are the world's most premier tournaments. How about actually spreading it around. If you want to have it in Europe, have it in Europe, but at least spread it around to a different country.

And yet Chicago was bidding to host in 2016 and USA in 2018/22. You've got to practice what you preach.

Ultimately these things are completely separate, so no reason for them to be connected.

[withoutthee88]

And yet Chicago was bidding to host in 2016 and USA in 2018/22. You've got to practice what you preach.

Ultimately these things are completely separate, so no reason for them to be connected.

Bidding to host and being picked to host are completely separate things.

No one wants to see the Olympics and the World Cup in 3rd world Brazil in a span of two years.

If the USA doesn't get either 2018 or 2022, it will only be because of the continuing jealousy of the USA across the world.

[M]

Bidding to host and being picked to host are completely separate things.

No one wants to see the Olympics and the World Cup in 3rd world Brazil in a span of two years.



I'd rather see the Olympics in South America than the US given they've never been hosted in South America.


If the USA doesn't get either 2018 or 2022, it will only be because of the continuing jealousy of the USA across the world.

Or maybe because of the lack of adequate answers to questions like this and the fiasco surrounding Cuba's participation in the '06 World Baseball Classic:


In the official question-and-answer session following the Chicago presentation, Syed Shahid Ali, an I.O.C. member from Pakistan, asked the toughest question. He wondered how smooth it would be for foreigners to enter the United States for the Games because doing so can sometimes, he said, be “a rather harrowing experience."


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/sports/03olympics.html?_r=1&hp?hp

Or maybe because there are other countries such as Australia and Bel/Ned that deserve a shot at it before the US hosts a second time?

[Celtigo]

I'd rather see the Olympics in South America than the US given they've never been hosted in South America.



Or maybe because of the lack of adequate answers to questions like this and the fiasco surrounding Cuba's participation in the '06 World Baseball Classic:



http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/sports/03olympics.html?_r=1&hp?hp

The Olympics are a giant money suck and frequently leave the host city with a number of unusable facilities for anything worthwhile.

Enjoy it Rio (or Madrid?).

P.S. I do wonder about Brazil's ability to pay for these things in a short span of time. They're a decent sized economy, but this would be tough for almost any country to pull off.

[Cris 09]

If the USA doesn't get either 2018 or 2022, it will only be because of the continuing jealousy of the USA across the world.

Why do you assume others are jelous?? And what makes you say it is "continuing"?

[BocaFan]

Bidding to host and being picked to host are completely separate things.

No one wants to see the Olympics and the World Cup in 3rd world Brazil in a span of two years.


I'd rather see the olympics in Rio than Chicago. It's a beautiful setting to stage these events and the city proves on an annual basis that it is capable of hosting a massive event (carnival). The USA seems to host an olympics every decade, which is ridiculous!

[djramone]

No one wants to see the Olympics and the World Cup in 3rd world Brazil in a span of two years.

~200 million Brazilians would likely disagree. :rolleyes:

[withoutthee88]

Why do you assume others are jelous?? And what makes you say it is "continuing"?

Jermaine Jones says America >>>>> Germany.

[withoutthee88]

I'd rather see the Olympics in South America than the US given they've never been hosted in South America.



Or maybe because of the lack of adequate answers to questions like this and the fiasco surrounding Cuba's participation in the '06 World Baseball Classic:



http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/sports/03olympics.html?_r=1&hp?hp

Or maybe because there are other countries such as Australia and Bel/Ned that deserve a shot at it before the US hosts a second time?

A foreigner entering the U.S. is a "harrowing" experience. Nyahahahahahaha. As a native Ukrainian, let me tell you, the USA is hands down, bar none the greatest country in the world.

I wonder what that Pakistani will say after a bunch of Euros get raped and killed or kidnapped in Rio. Suddenly the U.S. won't be so "harrowing".

I mean "harrowing"? Seriously? Harrowing?

[Cris 09]

Jermaine Jones says America >>>>> Germany.

Jermaine Jones says; "Playing in a WC >>>>> Not playing in a WC". Whats your point? :rolleyes:

[withoutthee88]

I wonder why the U.S. has hosted 4 Winter and 4 Summer Olympics, when according to some dirty, shady ass racist Pakistani on the IOC board, foreigners coming to America feel that the experience is extremely disturbing or distressing, grievous, painful, agonizing, tormenting and heartbreaking.

Either this dipshit Pakistani doesn't know how to speak simple English, or he's a little pissed off that his sons are fighting the Taliban in northern Pakistan just because the U.S. told them to do so.

[Cris 09]

A foreigner entering the U.S. is a "harrowing" experience. Nyahahahahahaha. As a native Ukrainian, let me tell you, the USA is hands down, bar none the greatest country in the world.

I wonder what that Pakistani will say after a bunch of Euros get raped and killed or kidnapped in Rio. Suddenly the U.S. won't be so "harrowing".

I mean "harrowing"? Seriously? Harrowing?

You do recall what happened to the honor student in Chicago last week, right?

Crime is no laughing mater, and you can find it anywhere.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/30/illinois.teen.beating/index.html

[withoutthee88]

Jermaine Jones says; "Playing in a WC >>>>> Not playing in a WC". Whats your point? :rolleyes:

Yes, that's why he gave the middle finger to Germany as he set sail for the land of the free and the home of the brave.
The U.S. has played in the last 5 World Cups, what's your point?

[Cris 09]

I wonder why the U.S. has hosted 4 Winter and 4 Summer Olympics...(snip)...

Perhaps it was time to let another city/nation host for a change.

[withoutthee88]

You do recall what happened to the honor student in Chicago last week, right?

Crime is no laughing mater, and you can find it anywhere.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/30/illinois.teen.beating/index.html

LOL, that's one death genius.

As opposed to Rio being "The Murder Capitol of the World."

April 19, 2005

World Murder Capital?

Rio de Janeiro's name means River of January, and the city is known to its cariocas as "Marvelous City." But a Washington Times piece today makes clear that Murderous City is a more appropriate title. A staggering 80 to 95 people a day are killed in Rio, mostly by drug gang shootouts in the favela slums that ring the city. This translates in round figures to 29,000 to 35,000 annually. Rio is a city of 10 million, roughly 25% more than inhabit New York City. Thus for NYC a comparable murder toll range would be 23,000 to 28,000; the 2004 NYC figure was under 600. Put another way, Rio has some 40 to 50 times NYC's per capita murder rate, with a 300 to 350 murders per 100,000 rate. (The per capita number of 55 per 100,000 given in the WT article for Rio is clearly wrong--someone misplaced a decimal point.) One final frame of reference: With a US population of about 300 million, 30 times Rio's total, multiply the annual Rio murder range by 30 to get an equivalent murder total for the US: the range would be, in round figures, 850,000 to 1.1 million!!!! See a problem here?
World Murder Capital? (http://www.washtimes.com/world/20050418-094756-8104r.htm)


http://www.letterfromthecapitol.com/letterfromthecapitol/2005/04/world_murder_ca.html

[Cris 09]

Yes, that's why he gave the middle finger to Germany as he set sail for the land of the free and the home of the brave.
The U.S. has played in the last 5 World Cups, what's your point?

My point is Jermaine Jones would have not played in a WC had he decided to stick with Germany as Loew did not feature him in his plans. If anyone was giving anyone the finger, it is Loew and the DFB to Jones, and not the other way around.

Frankly, I would have liked to see Jones with Germany's set up but I'm not the manager.

He should be a great addition to the USMNT, no doubt - but in the end, the point is, you are misinformed as far as the whole Jones going for the US actually happened.

[Cris 09]

LOL, that's one death genius.

As opposed to Rio being "The Murder Capitol of the World."

April 19, 2005

World Murder Capital?

Rio de Janeiro's name means River of January, and the city is known to its cariocas as "Marvelous City." But a Washington Times piece today makes clear that Murderous City is a more appropriate title. A staggering 80 to 95 people a day are killed in Rio, mostly by drug gang shootouts in the favela slums that ring the city. This translates in round figures to 29,000 to 35,000 annually. Rio is a city of 10 million, roughly 25% more than inhabit New York City. Thus for NYC a comparable murder toll range would be 23,000 to 28,000; the 2004 NYC figure was under 600. Put another way, Rio has some 40 to 50 times NYC's per capita murder rate, with a 300 to 350 murders per 100,000 rate. (The per capita number of 55 per 100,000 given in the WT article for Rio is clearly wrong--someone misplaced a decimal point.) One final frame of reference: With a US population of about 300 million, 30 times Rio's total, multiply the annual Rio murder range by 30 to get an equivalent murder total for the US: the range would be, in round figures, 850,000 to 1.1 million!!!! See a problem here?
World Murder Capital? (http://www.washtimes.com/world/20050418-094756-8104r.htm)


http://www.letterfromthecapitol.com/letterfromthecapitol/2005/04/world_murder_ca.html

I am not saying I agreed with the OC as far as the bidding went, I am just saying that you saying that the US loses these bids based on "jealousy" is ridiculous.

[withoutthee88]

I am not saying I agreed with the OC as far as the bidding went, I am just saying that you saying that the US loses these bids based on "jealousy" is ridiculous.

I went a overboard, I will admit. I just really want one of the 2018/2022 World Cups. I mean I'll be 34 in 2022, I don't want to be an old man when I finally see a World Cup in person.