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ArsenalMetro
30 Sep 2009, 02:23 AM
I saw standings posted, and figured that I would keep a running tally of my CONCACAF Coefficient, for both club and country, based on the UEFA coefficient. The formulas for calculation:

Federation Coefficient:
Each nation earns a total number of points, which is then divided by the number of teams participating in that edition. The overall coefficient is the sum of that nation's last 5 years. As we're in the middle of the second year, obviously no results have been expunged. Points are earned as follows:

Preliminary round - 1 point for a win, .5 for a draw
4 bonus points for group stage appearance
In the group stage + knockout rounds - 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw
1 bonus point for reaching the quarterfinals, 1 for reaching the semifinals, and 1 for reaching the final.

Club coefficient:
In addition to the federation coefficient, clubs can earn their own individual ranking. The club coefficient is the number of points that club has earned in a particular edition, plus 1/3 of their nation's coefficient from that year. Clubs can only earn points and shift from a 0.0000 ranking if they participate in the group stages.

- Points cannot be earned in the preliminary rounds
- No bonus points are given for group stage participation
- 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw throughout the group stages and knockout rounds
- 1 bonus point for reaching the quarterfinals, 1 bonus point for reaching the semifinals, 1 bonus point for reaching the finals

ArsenalMetro
30 Sep 2009, 03:01 AM
As of 3:00 AM Eastern, September 30

League Coefficient

Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall
Mexico 19.250 12.375 31.625
Honduras 12.750 5.333 18.083
Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000
CFU 9.167 7.000 16.167
Panama 9.250 6.500 15.750
United States 4.625 6.875 11.500
Guatemala 5.000 4.000 9.000
Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917
El Salvador 5.250 2.500 7.750
Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500
Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000


Club Coefficient

Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall
Cruz Azul 23.4167 13.0838 36.5005
UNAM 16.4167 11.0838 27.5005
Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167
Puerto Rico 17.0556 4.3100 21.3656
Marathon 14.2500 5.7600 20.0100
Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167
Houston 10.5417 7.2688 17.8105
Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000
Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617
Toluca 0.0000 12.0838 12.0838
Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500
Pachuca 0.0000 10.0838 10.0838
Arabe Unido 0.0000 9.1450 9.1450
Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833
D.C. United 2.5417 6.2688 8.8105
L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500
Columbus 0.0000 7.2688 7.2688
Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667
Comunicaciones0.0000 5.3200 5.3200
W Connection 0.0000 5.3100 5.3100
San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833
Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556
Real Espana 0.0000 3.7600 3.7600
SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.3100 2.3100
Isidro Metapan0.0000 0.8250 0.8250

drt2k3
30 Sep 2009, 12:02 PM
awesome job metro!

Something I would like to see is a definite standard for bid distribution once the coefficient is firmly in place.

So for our 24 team championship I would like to see as follows
The following is to be applied to Mexico, USA, and Central American leagues based off of their coefficient standings

Leagues 1-2, 2 groups, 2 qualifiers
Leagues 3-4 1 group, 2 qualifiers
Leagues 5-6 1 group, 1 qualifier
League 7 1 qualifier
Leagues 8-9, .5 qualifier (2 legged playoff for entry)

Canada only has three teams therefore their one qualifier is appropriate and Caribbean entry is based off a tournament, so three qualifiers is appropriate, considering the cap is 4 teams. If either Canada or the Carribbean teams deserve an automatic group, then that can be easily readjusted.

For example say you wanted to give the Carribean tournament winner an automatic group slot instead of a qualification slot, then league 6 becomes 2 qualifiers instead of 1 group, 1 qualifier.

Based upon THESE STANDINGS here is how i would distribute the bids.
i know we are on a three year trial run and the current tournament is not yet finished

Mexico- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier
Honduras- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier
Panama-1 Group, 2 Qualifier
USA- 1 Group, 2 Qualifier
Guatemala- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier
Costa Rica- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier
El Salvador- 1 Qualifier
Nicaragua- .5 Qualifier
Belize- .5 Qualifier
Canada- 1 Qualifier
Caribbean- 3 Qualifier

elcibernetico24
30 Sep 2009, 12:59 PM
awesome job metro!

Something I would like to see is a definite standard for bid distribution once the coefficient is firmly in place.

So for our 24 team championship I would like to see as follows
The following is to be applied to Mexico, USA, and Central American leagues based off of their coefficient standings

Leagues 1-2, 2 groups, 2 qualifiers
Leagues 3-4 1 group, 2 qualifiers
Leagues 5-6 1 group, 1 qualifier
League 7 1 qualifier
Leagues 8-9, .5 qualifier (2 legged playoff for entry)

Canada only has three teams therefore their one qualifier is appropriate and Caribbean entry is based off a tournament, so three qualifiers is appropriate, considering the cap is 4 teams. If either Canada or the Carribbean teams deserve an automatic group, then that can be easily readjusted.

For example say you wanted to give the Carribean tournament winner an automatic group slot instead of a qualification slot, then league 6 becomes 2 qualifiers instead of 1 group, 1 qualifier.

Based upon THESE STANDINGS here is how i would distribute the bids.
i know we are on a three year trial run and the current tournament is not yet finished

Mexico- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier
Honduras- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier
Panama-1 Group, 2 Qualifier
USA- 1 Group, 2 Qualifier
Guatemala- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier
Costa Rica- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier
El Salvador- 1 Qualifier
Nicaragua- .5 Qualifier
Belize- .5 Qualifier
Canada- 1 Qualifier
Caribbean- 3 Qualifier

no one deserves as many spots as mexico.


Mexico- 2 Group, 2 Qualifier
Honduras- 1 Group, 2 Qualifier
Panama-1 Group, 2 Qualifier
USA- 2 Group, 1 Qualifier, at most but they still have a lot to prove.
Guatemala- 1 Group, 1 Qualifier
Costa Rica- 1 Group, 2 Qualifier, still a good league but they have to prove themselves again.
El Salvador- 1 Qualifier
Nicaragua- .5 Qualifier
Belize- .5 Qualifier
Canada- 1 Qualifier
Caribbean- 3 Qualifier

r2d2
01 Oct 2009, 11:44 AM
Country Ranking - UEFA coefficient method - Central and North America(CONCACAF):
http://uatransfer.ru/index.php?v0=0&v1=0&v2=0&v3=0&v4=92

Country Ranking - UEFA coefficient method - World:
http://uatransfer.ru

ArsenalMetro
01 Oct 2009, 01:32 PM
Country Ranking - UEFA coefficient method - Central and North America(CONCACAF):
http://uatransfer.ru/index.php?v0=0&v1=0&v2=0&v3=0&v4=92

Country Ranking - UEFA coefficient method - World:
http://uatransfer.ru

Those numbers are off for a number of reasons. First, they consider the CFU nations as individual countries, which, for the purposes of this tournament, the confederation does not do. Also, this takes into account CCC's, which, given the dramatic change in format, is not a fair assessment of the region. It also seems to count UNCAF and CFU qualifiers in the rankings, which is a poor way to judge CONCACAF. Additionally, a pure UEFA coefficient doesn't work perfectly for our confederation, as there is only one continent-wide tournament in CONCACAF.

ArsenalMetro
02 Oct 2009, 12:10 AM
After Group Stage, Matchday 5

League Coefficient

Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall
Mexico 19.250 13.375 32.625
Honduras 12.750 6.667 19.417
Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000
CFU 9.167 7.000 16.167
Panama 9.250 6.500 15.750
United States 4.625 7.375 12.000
Guatemala 5.000 4.000 9.000
Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917
El Salvador 5.250 2.500 7.750
Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500
Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000


Club Coefficient

Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall
Cruz Azul 23.4167 13.4138 36.8305
UNAM 16.4167 13.4138 29.8305
Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167
Marathon 14.2500 8.2000 22.4500
Puerto Rico 17.0556 4.3100 21.3656
Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167
Houston 10.5417 7.4388 17.9755
Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000
Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617
Toluca 0.0000 12.4138 12.4138
Pachuca 0.0000 12.4138 12.4138
D.C. United 2.5417 8.4388 10.9755
Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500
Arabe Unido 0.0000 9.1450 9.1450
Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833
L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500
Columbus 0.0000 7.4388 7.4388
Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667
Real Espana 0.0000 6.2000 6.2000
Comunicaciones0.0000 5.3200 5.3200
W Connection 0.0000 5.3100 5.3100
San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833
Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556
SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.3100 2.3100
Isidro Metapan0.0000 0.8250 0.8250

ArsenalMetro
23 Oct 2009, 01:59 AM
After completion of group stages:

League Coefficient

Nation 2008-09 2009-10 Overall
Mexico 19.250 15.625 34.875
Honduras 12.750 7.667 20.417
CFU 9.167 8.000 17.167
Canada 16.500 0.500 17.000
Panama 9.250 7.000 16.250
United States 4.625 8.125 12.750
Guatemala 5.000 5.500 10.500
Costa Rica 5.750 3.167 8.917
El Salvador 5.250 3.500 8.750
Nicaragua 0.500 0.000 0.500
Belize 0.000 0.000 0.000


Club Coefficient

Club 2008-09 2009-10 Overall
Cruz Azul 23.4167 17.1563 40.5730
UNAM 16.4167 15.1563 31.5730
Marathon 14.2500 11.5300 25.7800
Atlante 25.4167 0.0000 25.4167
Puerto Rico 17.0556 5.6400 22.6956
Santos 19.4167 0.0000 19.4167
Houston 10.5417 7.5988 18.1405
Montreal 16.5000 0.0000 16.5000
Pachuca 0.0000 16.1563 16.1563
Toluca 0.0000 15.1563 15.1563
Saprissa 8.9167 5.0450 13.9617
D.C. United 2.5417 9.5988 12.1405
Arabe Unido 0.0000 10.3100 10.3100
Olimpia 10.2500 0.0000 10.2500
Columbus 0.0000 9.5988 9.5988
Tauro 9.0833 0.0000 9.0833
Comunicaciones0.0000 8.8150 8.8150
L.A. Firpo 7.7500 0.0000 7.7500
W Connection 0.0000 7.6400 7.6400
Municipal 6.6667 0.0000 6.6667
Real Espana 0.0000 6.5300 6.5300
San Francisco 5.0833 0.0000 5.0833
Joe Public 5.0556 0.0000 5.0556
Isidro Metapan0.0000 3.1550 3.1550
SJ Jabloteh 0.0000 2.6400 2.6400