which coach is mucking it up the worst? [R]

[afgrijselijkheid]

for me, the early theme of euro2004 is the utterly puzzling formations, lineups and tactics being employed by several of the coaches (most of which relates to being a paranoid wuss playing single striker formations so as not to lose) - many of these nimrods are making contenders look like pretenders

so who's the worst?

ADVOCAAT - its no secret, i hate dick - dutch football is not being played here... simple as that - 433, you fat plug wearin' idiot!!!

SAEZ - spain is being hampered i tell ya - start valeron instead of albelda dammit! baraja doesnt need any help

SCOLARI - ive got two words for you: simao sabrosa :confused: Cronaldo on the bench still... but hey! at least he realized deco could play

TRAPATTONI - take a wild guess... more CATENACCIO!!! and perotta and zanetti instead of pirlo and gattuso?!?

YARTSEV - sends mostovoi home like a big baby and can't seem to remember that sychev had a hand in all 4 of their WC02 goals

ERIKSSON - yeah, it certainly wasnt all his fault, but then again... he could bring heskey on late with at least two more 1-0 leads

it really stands out how bad these guys are screwing the pooch when you contrast them with the wonderful coaching jobs going on with greece, latvia, denmark, sweden etc.

[sendorange]

Putting Sven Goran Eriksson on that list on the basis of the first game with those others is ridiculous. His tactics were doing the job against by far the strongest team in the competition. A coach is not responsible for last minute mistakes by individual players.

[Father Ted]

Putting Sven Goran Eriksson on that list on the basis of the first game with those others is ridiculous. His tactics were doing the job against by far the strongest team in the competition. A coach is not responsible for last minute mistakes by individual players.


Erikson skrewed up big time with his bunker tactics for the last half hour. The mistakes and goals were bound to happen sooner or later.

[Juanele]

Saez all the way. He has no clue how to manage a senior squad. He has robot tactics with predictable substitutions.

[sendorange]

Erikson skrewed up big time with his bunker tactics for the last half hour. The mistakes and goals were bound to happen sooner or later.
Rubbish. No team in the world would go rushing out to attack France with 30 minutes to go with a 1-0 lead, that's tactical suicide. The mistakes and goals were not inevitable at all, otherwise they would have happened sooner than injury time.

[Ombak]

Rubbish. No team in the world would go rushing out to attack France with 30 minutes to go with a 1-0 lead, that's tactical suicide. The mistakes and goals were not inevitable at all, otherwise they would have happened sooner than injury time.

You don't have to rush out to attack, but you can at least make an effort to hold the damn ball! At least it wasn't as bad as against a 10-man Brazil - only difference is here they were winning, in that case they were losing and absolutely needed the ball.

[sendorange]

You don't have to rush out to attack, but you can at least make an effort to hold the damn ball! At least it wasn't as bad as against a 10-man Brazil - only difference is here they were winning, in that case they were losing and absolutely needed the ball.
They should have kept the ball better, particularly in the spell after half time. But how is that Eriksson's fault??? The players were nervous and underperforming, this isn't a Playstation 2 game, the coach isn't sitting there on the touchline with a controller in his hand and pressing the pass button.

[Clan]

Can't agree with blaming Eriksson for the "tactics" per se - however, bringing on the donkey alone deserves naming him.

[nicephoras]

ADVOCAAT - its no secret, i hate dick - dutch football is not being played here... simple as that - 433, you fat plug wearin' idiot!!!

He tops it for me - has a wealth of talent and gets THAT result. Ugh. Just awful.

SAEZ - spain is being hampered i tell ya - start valeron instead of albelda dammit! baraja doesnt need any help

Bends to pressure too easily. I think Valeron should be in for Raul, not Albelda. Valeron is such a defensive liability, its hard to play him. I'd prefer Valeron for Raul and Xabi for Albelda, personally. Moro is a good target forward. Considering how Depor play, Valeron woulave a field day spraying passes out wide to Vicente and Exteberria (although why no Joaquin??).

TRAPATTONI - take a wild guess... more CATENACCIO!!! and perotta and zanetti instead of pirlo and gattuso?!?

And Camoranesi instead of Fiore.

ERIKSSON - yeah, it certainly wasnt all his fault, but then again... he could bring heskey on late with at least two more 1-0 leads

Uh, no. That was not Sven's fault. The coach is responsible if he fails to put his players in the right position. If he puts the right players in the right position and they fcuk up, it can't be down to him. Heskey committed a foul because he's a proper moron, not because Sven screwed up. Same thing for Gerrard. In what way were either due to bunker tactics?

[nicephoras]

You don't have to rush out to attack, but you can at least make an effort to hold the damn ball! At least it wasn't as bad as against a 10-man Brazil - only difference is here they were winning, in that case they were losing and absolutely needed the ball.

I'd agree with that, but England were actually holding the ball BETTER right before the goal than they had been for about 15 minutes.
Just plain stupidity. Blame Heskey, Gerrard and James. Not Eriksson.

[Iberian]

Scolari: Playing with Couto, Rui Costa, Figo running to the center field, leaving Carvahlo and Deco in the bench, leaving Pauleta alone at the top...he managed to give Portugal their most shameful game in their history, and possibly their elimitation in the first round. Hard to top.

Saez: Thinks Spain is in a playstation. When he needs to attack, he substitutes a striker for a striker, so he doesn't waste time pressing buttons, going through menus to change the tactic :confused:. He announces that he will make changes in the team, and then makes a fool out of himself keeping the starting team in secret until the last second, to have the players come out on the field!. What a piece of work.

Trappatoni: Completely against letting his players show their skill and play soccer!. After a tie, he announces taking out some of the skillfull ones to place more defensive players in. And they only tied!?. On paper, Italy's midfield could be better than anybody elses, and with Vieri and Totti upfront, Italy could be a soccer fan's wet dream come true. Trappa makes sure it doesn't happen. He should try out american football, who knows.

[cmos]

Man the Portugal coach must be insane :eek: , how can you not let Ronaldo play from start. Man everytime he comes in he does alot of good, best attacking player yet both matches so far.

[afgrijselijkheid]

Uh, no. That was not Sven's fault. The coach is responsible if he fails to put his players in the right position. If he puts the right players in the right position and they fcuk up, it can't be down to him. Heskey committed a foul because he's a proper moron, not because Sven screwed up.



my wonder is how sven hadnt already figured out that heskey has no business coming on late with a 1-0 lead against france

[michaec]

How long does it take Eriksson to realise that Heskey has no business being in the England squad at all? I didn't know strikers who don't score goals are in such demand. That's definitely down to the coach.

[divineponytail94]

[QUOTE=bluedaddy19]for me, the early theme of euro2004 is the utterly puzzling formations, lineups and tactics being employed by several of the coaches (most of which relates to being a paranoid wuss playing single striker formations so as not to lose) - many of these nimrods are making contenders look like pretenders

so who's the worst?

TRAPATTONI - take a wild guess... more CATENACCIO!!! and perotta and zanetti instead of pirlo and gattuso?!?

Where is Roberto Baggio :confused: :mad:

[KanKeano's DefPosts]

Its gotta be 'Big Phil'!!!!

They won't beat Spain on Sunday and all of portugal will be in mourning coz Greece will get the points they need. The guy's got no idea..He may have won the WC with Brazil but he has no chance with Portugal.

Imagine leaving Baia out of the squad, leaving Ronaldo on the bench...even after winning last night against a very poor Russian team I thought the team was poor.

[ZeekLTK]

Where is Roberto Baggio :confused: :mad:

Uh... didn't he retire after the friendly vs Spain a few months ago?

[nicephoras]

Man the Portugal coach must be insane :eek: , how can you not let Ronaldo play from start. Man everytime he comes in he does alot of good, best attacking player yet both matches so far.

:confused: No, he hasn't. Unless by "best attacking player" you mean "player with the most poor crosses". He looked better coming on as a sub in this game. He did not have a good game against Greece. At all.

[afgrijselijkheid]

:confused: No, he hasn't. Unless by "best attacking player" you mean "player with the most poor crosses". He looked better coming on as a sub in this game. He did not have a good game against Greece. At all.


ummm... he did score one of those goal doo-dads, which might end up coming in handy

[FireTrapatoni]

Trapatoni is by far screwing up the most. Why? Because his team has more talent, great players, and depth than any team except for France and possibly Spain (although Italy has better defenders). English fans can complain all they want, but their team simply is not one of the top 3 squads in the tournament so it's foolish to expect their coach to do so well.