ORANJE v germany [R]

[afgrijselijkheid]

advocaat has released the starting lineup and i must give him credit for deploying van der vaart on the LW - some of rafi's best days were at that position - also, heitenga usurps reiziger in the XI

.......................van der sar
heitenga......stam...........bouma.......van bronckhurst
.......sneijder.........cocu.......davids
van der meyde.........................van der vaart
...........................ruud


as i said, you guys are on your own for PbP on this one

[The Swan]

:) Your'e wrong, this is the line-up for tonight!
Wesley Sneijder will not be a starter.....
Also, there could be a replacement for Bouma! He
has some stagenerves and his replacement for
tonight could be Frank de Boer! Mark my words.....

.......................van der sar...............................

heitinga........ stam.......bouma.......van bronckhorst

.......VdVaart.........cocu.............davids...............

van der meyde.........................Zenden...............

...........................ruud.....................................

[afgrijselijkheid]

:) Your'e wrong, this is the line-up for tonight!
Wesley Sneijder will not be a starter.....
Also, there could be a replacement for Bouma! He
has some stagenerves and his replacement for
tonight could be Frank de Boer! Mark my words.....

.......................van der sar...............................

heitinga........ stam.......bouma.......van bronckhorst

.......VdVaart.........cocu.............davids...............

van der meyde.........................Zenden...............

...........................ruud.....................................


dude... you are trippin'

[The Swan]

Not very up to date are we?

Go to Voetbal International (www.vi.nl) and you will see what I'm talking about!!

[AFC Ajax]

Swan is right, but it's more likely we'll play a 4-4-2 system instead of 4-3-3 due to Advocaat's lack of courage..

[The Swan]

It will be a mix with a 4-3-3 and a 4-4-2 system!
I think we will see a diamond in the offence.....


Go Dutchies Go

[Oscar]

dude... you are trippin'

No Advocaat is. :(

Zenden and Ruud in the same team.... oh my God, Holland has a chance of losing against this Germany! ;)

edit: shít, just read that he might bring in Frank "I give away a goalscoring opportunity at least once a game" de Boer instead of Bouma as well. Did the KNVB research Dikkie Dick's background, it looks like he might have some German in him.

[afgrijselijkheid]

Not very up to date are we?

Go to Voetbal International (www.vi.nl) and you will see what I'm talking about!!


oh. dear. god.

and here i thought dick head had finally grown a brain

[sendorange]

oh. dear. god.

and here i thought dick head had finally grown a brain
Actually I think bring in Zenden and possibly Frank DB for Bouma are good moves for this match.

Germany are going to be counterattacking and I believe Bouma's lapses in concentration and poor communication with Stam aren't best suited to dealing with them. Bring in Frank for his experience and hopefully better chemistry with Stam.

Zenden has the raw pace and gives balance on the left. The German defence is particularly susceptible to pace and at the very least this will force them to sit further back making it easier to put pressure on them.

If these two changes happen I will be more confident about a Dutch win than I was earlier.

[The Swan]

I agree with you..... ;)

[afgrijselijkheid]

first let me say...

1-i prefer sneijder, and for that matter robben, coming off the bench

2-i am not as afraid of zenden up front as most... well its not as if he's the LB, that would be a problem

BUT

a)i still see bouma's name in that lineup - i'd gladly take heitenga for him & keep reiziger

b)VDV as RM? yes dick, please let's move him as far away from goal as possible :rolleyes:

[Tony Dellbird]

I heard Wesley Sneijder was going to start. Hopefully Holland will beat Germany, haven't really got anything against Germany but it's just i think Holland are very underrated as a team.

[AFC Ajax]

first let me say...

1-i prefer sneijder, and for that matter robben, coming off the bench

2-i am not as afraid of zenden up front as most... well its not as if he's the LB, that would be a problem

BUT

a)i still see bouma's name in that lineup - i'd gladly take heitenga for him & keep reiziger

b)VDV as RM? yes dick, please let's move him as far away from goal as possible :rolleyes:

I agree completely, but I must admit that I don't think Oranje will win it tonight if we continue to play as Advocaat has planned. We've proven over the last couple of weeks that we can not play in a 4-4-2 system. Why he leaves Sneijder out is a complete mystery to me.

[astabooty]

hmmm...i am getting nervous. even more nervous that is.

[astabooty]

I agree completely, but I must admit that I don't think Oranje will win it tonight if we continue to play as Advocaat has planned. We've proven over the last couple of weeks that we can not play in a 4-4-2 system. Why he leaves Sneijder out is a complete mystery to me.


i agree and welcome to big soccer!!!

[AFC Ajax]

i agree and welcome to big soccer!!!

Yes thank you, I haven't posted here since the humiliating defeat of Ajax against Brugge in the Champions League.

But back on topic, I don't see Oranje beating the Germans. I wonder what's going on in Advocaat's head. Maybe it's all a trick so that the German's wont know what hits them when we attack 4-3-3 style. But alas it seems it's just wishful thinking on my behalf. Who do you think should be our forward? Kluivert, Makaay or van Nistelrooy?

[afgrijselijkheid]

433 MUTINY!!! 433 MUTINY!!!

[afgrijselijkheid]

But back on topic, I don't see Oranje beating the Germans.

I wonder what's going on in Advocaat's head. Maybe it's all a trick so that the German's wont know what hits them when we attack 4-3-3 style.

But alas it seems it's just wishful thinking on my behalf.

Who do you think should be our forward? Kluivert, Makaay or van Nistelrooy?


1-i do... BIG

2-i was thnking the same thing - he has only announced like 5 different lineups in 4 days

3-yeah, probably

4-if we play 433, it doesnt even matter

[The Swan]

I can't believe this.....it's a movie about the German's preparing for their match against Holland......

Secret training Germany for the Holland game LOOK AT THIS!!! (http://www.om3ega.com/album/funny/ditnetweldotnl_training.mpg)

:eek: :eek:

[afgrijselijkheid]

my belly is just full of butterflies right now