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jegerpenge
14 Jun 2004, 07:09 PM
But I was aiming this to the English/Europeans on this board. I've been following some of this European elections coverage and this Robert Kilroy-Silk seems like a complete anarchist douche bag. I was wondering if you guys have any opinions of him or if there are any fears about the EU now that UKIP has come into power.

Coach_McGuirk
14 Jun 2004, 07:30 PM
But I was aiming this to the English/Europeans on this board. I've been following some of this European elections coverage and this Robert Kilroy-Silk seems like a complete anarchist douche bag. I was wondering if you guys have any opinions of him or if there are any fears about the EU now that UKIP has come into power.
There's a thread on "Politics" covering all the EU elections. I haven't looked at it myself, but you might find out something in there....

jegerpenge
14 Jun 2004, 07:51 PM
Sh!t no. I just checked that dump out. Why would I venture into there when I can simply ask it here, get one or two replies and then the thread will die. It at least gives us something to do. Unless nicephoras wants to come in here and call it boring :)

phishy
14 Jun 2004, 08:15 PM
Hooray for Sweden~ ;)

Dave_M
15 Jun 2004, 02:10 AM
Kilroy was a daytime TV dude here, a bit like Oprah meets Springer (without the fighting - this is England).

To be honest while he is a complete loon at lot of his policies make sense. Britain needs a more right wing stance in this increasingly loony left PC nanny state we call England.

However the problem with heading of to the right is if you go to far you end up with anarcists and biggots in power. Its a fine line and I think Thatcher had the right meassure of "right-wingness" about her.

Besides:

Who ate all the pies
Who ate all the pies
You weight challenged fatherless man
You weight challenged fatherless man
You ate all the pies

dont have the same ring to it :)

jwaldman11
15 Jun 2004, 02:30 AM
Kilroy was a daytime TV dude here, a bit like Oprah meets Springer (without the fighting - this is England).

No, you just wait until major international tournaments to do all your fighting. ;)

michaec
15 Jun 2004, 04:27 AM
Kilroy was a daytime TV dude here, a bit like Oprah meets Springer (without the fighting - this is England).

To be honest while he is a complete loon at lot of his policies make sense. Britain needs a more right wing stance in this increasingly loony left PC nanny state we call England.

However the problem with heading of to the right is if you go to far you end up with anarcists and biggots in power. Its a fine line and I think Thatcher had the right meassure of "right-wingness" about her.

Besides:

Who ate all the pies
Who ate all the pies
You weight challenged fatherless man
You weight challenged fatherless man
You ate all the pies

dont have the same ring to it :)
Great selective post there Dave. Let's see now. Probably the most important point you elected to leave out is that Kilroy was sacked by the BBC for making racists comments in his Sunday newspaper column. Yeah, we need him in politics.

Thatcher? Fine of you like poll tax riots, year-long miner's strikes (which admittedly met the objective of breaking the miners' union and killing the mining industry in this country. Fine if that's your thing), declining public services, sellling off any public utility you can to make a quick buck (I mean, how many billions of pounds would BT have made for the government by now if it was still public? The railways are a shambles. The government had to give British Energy how many millions last year? etc., etc., etc.), increasing the disparity between rich and poor. The list of bad things that can be directly attributed to Thatcherite policies goes on. But just right yeah?

Loony left PC nanny state? This is the most right-wing Labour government EVER. The reason UKIP were anywher is because Labour have taken traditional Conservative policies for their own and the Tories have no platofrm of their own any more. Privatising the NHS by stealth (Thatcher must be loving that one), toll roads, congestion charging and war in Iraq are policies to give Michael Howard a hard-on.

I have some sympathy with those who don't want even more European integration. It should be a free-trade area and the infrastructure building pogramme in the poorest states in the union is a good thing. The CAP and CFP are bad and should be at worst reformed radically and at best scrapped altogether. I don't go for the European Commission running everything from Brussels and I'm unconvinced about the single currency (In my opinion if you can't have half your monetary policy run centrally, i.e. interest rates, and half run by each state i.e tax rates, it will always put pressure on those having the toughest time and will always favour those with the most power in the union).

Rant over.

Coach_McGuirk
15 Jun 2004, 05:05 AM
Hooray for Sweden~ ;)
Is that anything like "Hooray beer!"???

Lanesra
15 Jun 2004, 05:50 AM
Great selective post there Dave. Let's see now. Probably the most important point you elected to leave out is that Kilroy was sacked by the BBC for making racists comments in his Sunday newspaper column. Yeah, we need him in politics.

Thatcher? Fine of you like poll tax riots, year-long miner's strikes (which admittedly met the objective of breaking the miners' union and killing the mining industry in this country. Fine if that's your thing), declining public services, sellling off any public utility you can to make a quick buck (I mean, how many billions of pounds would BT have made for the government by now if it was still public? The railways are a shambles. The government had to give British Energy how many millions last year? etc., etc., etc.), increasing the disparity between rich and poor. The list of bad things that can be directly attributed to Thatcherite policies goes on. But just right yeah?

Loony left PC nanny state? This is the most right-wing Labour government EVER. The reason UKIP were anywher is because Labour have taken traditional Conservative policies for their own and the Tories have no platofrm of their own any more. Privatising the NHS by stealth (Thatcher must be loving that one), toll roads, congestion charging and war in Iraq are policies to give Michael Howard a hard-on.

I have some sympathy with those who don't want even more European integration. It should be a free-trade area and the infrastructure building pogramme in the poorest states in the union is a good thing. The CAP and CFP are bad and should be at worst reformed radically and at best scrapped altogether. I don't go for the European Commission running everything from Brussels and I'm unconvinced about the single currency (In my opinion if you can't have half your monetary policy run centrally, i.e. interest rates, and half run by each state i.e tax rates, it will always put pressure on those having the toughest time and will always favour those with the most power in the union).

Rant over.

Saved me a job, nice post :)

jegerpenge
15 Jun 2004, 08:59 AM
Yes, I think I might post it on my site if that's ok with you michaec?

And Coach, Hooray for Sweden is more along the lines of an obscure reference to that high school hit (I was in high school then, anyway) "Hooray for Boobies!"

michaec
15 Jun 2004, 09:26 AM
Yes, I think I might post it on my site if that's ok with you michaec?

And Coach, Hooray for Sweden is more along the lines of an obscure reference to that high school hit (I was in high school then, anyway) "Hooray for Boobies!"
Knock yourself out.

Coach_McGuirk
15 Jun 2004, 10:03 AM
And Coach, Hooray for Sweden is more along the lines of an obscure reference to that high school hit (I was in high school then, anyway) "Hooray for Boobies!"

That means I have no idea what in the hell the song is as I stopped being "hip" sometime around 1991.

jegerpenge
15 Jun 2004, 02:32 PM
It's a bloodhound gang album that had the song "The Bad Touch" on it. You know, "You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals so let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel."