16 days Till the 2016 Olympic Host is Announced

[ECUNCHATER]

Here is a good pro-Chicago article that mentions the pros and cons of each city. The 4 cites in the running are Tokyo, Rio de Janeiro, Madrid, and Chicago.

http://majorleaguejerk.com/2008/09/analyzing-the-potential-2016-summer-olympics-host-cities/

I have a feeling it will be Rio de Janeiro since Tokyo and USA have hosted in the past. Spain also hosted the Olympics in 1992 and South America has never hosted the Olympics.

Anyway, does anyone know if it helps or hurts a nations chances to win an Olympic bid, or World Cup bid if the bidding nation has hosted/will be hosting one or the other soon. It is my understanding that Spain, USA, and Japan will all be bidding on World Cup 2018/2022. Brazil will also be hosting the 2014World Cup. Brazil, USA, Japan, and Spain are also the nations bidding for the2016 Olympics. Does the winner of the bid in 16 days have their name wiped off the FIFA host list?

[ECUNCHATER]

http://www.olympic.org/uk/news/olympic_news/full_story_uk.asp?id=3110

Here is the evaluation report by the IOC. It looks like Brazil will get the summer Olympics 2 years after they get the World Cup. Hosting the World Cup will mean that the soccer stadiums will be ready for the Olympics more than 2 years ahead of time.

[RichardL]

Does the winner of the bid in 16 days have their name wiped off the FIFA host list?
It makes no difference at all. FIFA and the Olympics are completely different organisations.

In fact, other than on these boards, I've never even heard it suggested that it might make a difference.

[ECUNCHATER]

It makes no difference at all. FIFA and the Olympics are completely different organisations.

In fact, other than on these boards, I've never even heard it suggested that it might make a difference.

That is what I figured because of USA World Cup 1994 and the Atlanta Summer Olympics 1996. I read that this will be the 4th time that a nation has hosted a World Cup and Summer Olympics 2 years a part, if Brazil wins the Olympic bid.

[whitecloud]

It has been suggested that Japan's World Cup bid needs the Tokyo Olympics Stadium to proceed as a bidder for the 2018/2022 World Cup. If Tokyo is not selected for the Olympics then Japan could drop out of the bidding.

[ECUNCHATER]

It has been suggested that Japan's World Cup bid needs the Tokyo Olympics Stadium to proceed as a bidder for the 2018/2022 World Cup. If Tokyo is not selected for the Olympics then Japan could drop out of the bidding.

That won't be an issue with Brazil, or USA when it comes to who hosts the Olympics and World Cup after 2014.

[HSEUPASSION]

It has been suggested that Japan's World Cup bid needs the Tokyo Olympics Stadium to proceed as a bidder for the 2018/2022 World Cup. If Tokyo is not selected for the Olympics then Japan could drop out of the bidding.

It would help, but it's not needed. They could make Tokyo Stadium (where FCT plays) seat 80,000 if they wanted to.

[code1390]

Its between Rio and Chicago without a doubt in my mind.

If it goes to Rio then its the first games in South America, but then assuming that the US doesn't get 2020 (two straight summer games in the Americas?), then it would be at least 28 years without the summer games in the US. I'm not so sure about that happening.

Its going to be close.

[ECUNCHATER]

Its between Rio and Chicago without a doubt in my mind.

If it goes to Rio then its the first games in South America, but then assuming that the US doesn't get 2020 (two straight summer games in the Americas?), then it would be at least 28 years without the summer games in the US. I'm not so sure about that happening.

Its going to be close.

We have a winner! If you read the report the summary says that the IOC has some concerns about the funding of the Chicago Olympics. It would be cool if it comes to the USA though. I was only 14 when the 1994 World Cup came to the USA and 16 when the Summer Olympics came to Atlanta. I wouldn't mind going to the Olympics, or World Cup before I die. I would like to go in 2012, but I probably won't have the time, or money.

[wufc]

I have to wonder if the lack of national effort will hurt any bids coming from a US city. No US Olympics use national funding, and some bids (like those from LA and NYC) dont even have state funding. Hell, the LA Olympics didn't even have funding from the city, it was all privately financed. In the last 1 or 2 decades, the Olympics have become more and more expensive and it requires ungodly amounts of money just to run properly. So the IOC may not look favorably on US bids, all of which offer less up-front funding than other cities around the world, which all are backed by the nation.

[leg_breaker]

What happened to New York and Paris? They were in for 2012. Have they been eliminated, or did they look at London and realise they dodged a bullet?

[code1390]

What happened to New York and Paris? They were in for 2012. Have they been eliminated, or did they look at London and realise they dodged a bullet?

New York didn't bid (it was between Chicago and LA for the US bid) and Paris didn't bid either knowing that London and Paris wouldn't get back to back games.

[ghost101]

New York didn't bid (it was between Chicago and LA for the US bid) and Paris didn't bid either knowing that London and Paris wouldn't get back to back games.

Even the one after is unlikely to be in Europe. Otherwise its 3 european games out of 6.

I think Chicago will get 2016 and Rio will sucessfully bid again in 2020.

2024 will probably be between everyone bar N&S America. I can see that being very competitive.

edit:

In fact Paris do intend to bid in 2024.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics

[ECUNCHATER]

What happened to New York and Paris? They were in for 2012. Have they been eliminated, or did they look at London and realise they dodged a bullet?

Chicago was voted by the USOC as the town to put a bid in for, but NY/NJ is a part of the plan. The Soccer tournaments will be held in

New Jersey
Philadelphia
St. Louis
Pasadena
Landover
Chicago
Minneapolis

I read that Blatter told the USOC that he wants to see them spread the soccer tournament out to try to help the game continue to grow in America.

[Excape Goat]

I have to wonder if the lack of national effort will hurt any bids coming from a US city. No US Olympics use national funding, and some bids (like those from LA and NYC) dont even have state funding. Hell, the LA Olympics didn't even have funding from the city, it was all privately financed. In the last 1 or 2 decades, the Olympics have become more and more expensive and it requires ungodly amounts of money just to run properly. So the IOC may not look favorably on US bids, all of which offer less up-front funding than other cities around the world, which all are backed by the nation.


I don't think the IOC cares about the lack of national effort. However, the IOC was not happy about Atlanta and then, the scandal with Utah. Having said that, the US cities have done well in winning Olympic bids. So I am not counting Chicago out.

[ECUNCHATER]

I don't think the IOC cares about the lack of national effort. However, the IOC was not happy about Atlanta and then, the scandal with Utah. Having said that, the US cities have done well in winning Olympic bids. So I am not counting Chicago out.

I still say it will be Brazil hosting since the 2014 World Cup will have revamped the country and they will be prepared to host Olympic soccer. Plus South America has never hosted the Olymics and the USA has hosted the summer games 4 times already.

[whitecloud]

Continent is the only thing Rio has going for it. On merit it is by far the weakest bid. Its got the weakest facilities plan, spread out all over the city. Its got the weakest transportation infrastructure. If it didn't have the South America thing going for it this bid would have zero chance of being selected. On paper, Tokyo has the strongest bid, but Beijing just being the host is a handicap for them.

[ECUNCHATER]

Continent is the only thing Rio has going for it. On merit it is by far the weakest bid. Its got the weakest facilities plan, spread out all over the city. Its got the weakest transportation infrastructure. If it didn't have the South America thing going for it this bid would have zero chance of being selected. On paper, Tokyo has the strongest bid, but Beijing just being the host is a handicap for them.

Well I just hope the USA can get at least 1 of the 2 major events it is bidding for in the next 2 years.

[Caesar]

This thread is really more about the Games in general than the football tournament, and the last two pages of discussion reflect that.

Moved to the Olympics forum.

[RoverMax]

Rio isn't going to get the bid. The city had a low initial score, and there are too many crime problems IMO. The only reason why Brazil got WC 2014 is because FIFA said it had to be in South America, as we all know.

The other 3 cities all have better infrastructure. Obama making an appearance in Copenhagen is really going to help the Chicago bid. I think it's going to be a toss up, but I'm praying for Chicago.