Rugby Union internationals [R]

[OldFanatic]

What, no mention of the Rugby Union internationals on FoxSportsWorld tonight? Is everyone caught up in the Euro 2004 (or MLS, or USA world cup qualifier, or the Formula-1 Canadian Grand Prix)? Anyway here's the schedule:

New Zealand vs England
Saturday June 12, 12:30 AM Pacific, 3:30 AM Eastern LIVE TONIGHT!!!

South Africa vs Ireland
Saturday June 12, 6 AM Pacific, 9 AM Eastern LIVE

[BhoysFC1995]

What, no mention of the Rugby Union internationals on FoxSportsWorld tonight? Is everyone caught up in the Euro 2004 (or MLS, or USA world cup qualifier, or the Formula-1 Canadian Grand Prix)? Anyway here's the schedule:

New Zealand vs England
Saturday June 12, 12:30 AM Pacific, 3:30 AM Eastern LIVE TONIGHT!!!

South Africa vs Ireland
Saturday June 12, 6 AM Pacific, 9 AM Eastern LIVE

forgot about this. the 'nz tour' is being show live on FSW, but b/c of its time (3:30am est, usa) i forgot about it. the ireland/SA match is on at 9am, a bit more of a respectable time, but not too much interest for me.

[OldFanatic]

......but b/c of its time (3:30am est, usa) i forgot about it........on at 9am, a bit more of a respectable time.....Tivo!!!! :)

[BhoysFC1995]

Tivo!!!! :)

damn, looks like i should have Tivo'd it- seems like there would have been some good highlights (well for kiwi fans at least)

All Blacks destroy champions (http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,9826924-27561,00.html)
all blacks got 3 trys in the fist half
near capacity crowd of about 38,000
It was Eng's biggest defeat since losing to NZ 64-22 here six years ago


oh, i added the {R} to the subject line for those who DO have tivo ;)

[OldFanatic]

The Haka is one of the most enjoyable event to watch in all of world sports. Great to be able to watch it after such a long time. What a joy!

[CelticOnFire]

Anybody know where I can see the Argentina-Wales game? Looked like a great one.

[DoyleG]

The Churchill Cup is taking place this week. The Men's semi-finals are played in Calagry.

NZ Maori 69 USA 31

England "A" 39 Canada 11

The Consolation match and Final are June 19th in Edmonton.

[Andy TAUS]

Australia is playing Scotland today (Sun 13 June 2004 @ 3:30 pm AEST - GMT+10) in Melbourne under the closed roof of the Telstra Dome.

Finishes off the 4 UK & Ireland teams' first games in the Southern Hemisphere.

Hopefully AUS will put away Scotland and complete the Southern Hemisphere domination of Northern Hemisphere teams.

:)

Cheers.

Andy T.

[Andy TAUS]

AUS 35-15 Scotland.

It was tougher for AUS than the scores indicate. The Scots were unlucky to be out-muscled in the last 20 minutes of the game.

Andy T.

[BhoysFC1995]

Wallabies Labour to Victory (http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,9833308-23209,00.html)
Australia 35 Scotland 15
A RUSTY Wallabies side has opened up their Test season by retaining the Hopetoun Cup in an unconvincing win over Scotland at the Telstra Dome.

The Australians were expected to demolish the injury ravaged Scots – who have won just one of their last seven Tests – but struggled to hold onto the ball and were surprisingly manhandled by the Scottish defence.

Pumas outlast Wales in a Thriller (http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,9831812-23217,00.html)
NEW coach Mike Ruddock came face-to-face with the schizophrenic nature of Welsh rugby in the intimidating Estadio Atletico today as Argentina ran out winners in an 11-try opening Test thriller

DoyleG- is that a 7's tournament, of full squad?

[DoyleG]

DoyleG- is that a 7's tournament, of full squad?

It's a full squad tourney.

I made an error on the last post. the Canada-England 'A' result I posted was actually a women's game between full international sides. the real men's game was played today.

Engalnd 'A' won that game 48-23.

The other game in the women's competition say New Zealand blank the USA 36-0

Finals on June 19 in Edmonton.

Women's Consolation: Canada v. USA
Men's Consolation: Canada v. USA
Women's Final: England v. New Zealand
Men's Final: England 'A' v. NZ Maori

[OldFanatic]

OK, we go through a second round of this again TONIGHT!!!

New Zealand vs. England LIVE 12:30 AM Pacific, 3:30 AM Eastern
South Africa vs. Ireland LIVE 6 AM Pacific, 9 AM Eastern

Get your TIVO set right this time. There may be a rerun of these, not sure. Also, looks like they're showing a Churchill Cup match USA vs. New Zealand Maori later this week. I don't plan to watch it, so I didn't note the time. If you care, check the FSW schedule.

[OldFanatic]

damn, looks like i should have Tivo'd it- seems like there would have been some good highlights (well for kiwi fans at least)
Finally finished watching both taped matches of last weekend in fast-forward mode. I've got to tell you, if you didn't watch them, you missed some incredibly good football action. Don't get misled by the scoreline of South Africa - Ireland. Until early in second half, it was very close and a great spectacle to watch. Now, off to watching Euro 2004, and catching today's Rugby Union matches later in the day.

[DoyleG]

Churchill Cup Results

Women's 3rd/4th: USA 29 Canada 10
Women's Championship: New Zealand 40 England 0

Men's 3rd/4th: Canada 32 USA 29
Men's Championship: NZ Maori 26 England 'A' 19 (OT)

[condor11]

2 tests
no trys against us

our foward pack finally got some fire in them
we no longer have invisible thorne to lead us

with robinson, hayman, gibbes and rush we have the players that do the dirty work

id like to see andrew "the best first five of the last 10 years" merthens start

and carlos shifted to fullback since neither mulianina or evans have convinced at fullback

the rocket man now has 20 tries by his 14th test all before his 21st birthday

[OldFanatic]

Well, the replay of the big World Cup final LIVE of FoxSportsWorld TONIGHT!

Australia vs. England 1:30 AM Pacific, 4:30 AM Eastern

Although, England have hardly played like the World Champions in the 2 test matches against New Zealand All Blacks so far. There will be huge revenge factor for the Wallabies. Let's see is England go 3 defeats in a row.

Other matches for Saturday morning/afternoon: South Africa vs Wales LIVE, and New Zealand vs Argentina on tape delay. Check the FoxSportsWorld website for more info.

[Andy TAUS]

Well, the replay of the big World Cup final LIVE of FoxSportsWorld TONIGHT!

Australia vs. England 1:30 AM Pacific, 4:30 AM Eastern

Although, England have hardly played like the World Champions in the 2 test matches against New Zealand All Blacks so far. There will be huge revenge factor for the Wallabies. Let's see is England go 3 defeats in a row.Chandu,

Good game all round.

Australia 51 (6 tries) beat England 15 (2 tries) comprehensively

:p

[OldFanatic]

Is there an Ashes series in Rugby Union between these 2 countries like in cricket? Or is the Wallabies - All Blacks a bigger rivalry? (I know there is some Ashes thing in Rugby League - Australia Kangaroos vs Great Britain Lions??. But I don't follow League, so I haven't paid attention to it.)

[Andy TAUS]

Is there an Ashes series in Rugby Union between these 2 countries like in cricket? Or is the Wallabies - All Blacks a bigger rivalry? (I know there is some Ashes thing in Rugby League - Australia Kangaroos vs Great Britain Lions??. But I don't follow League, so I haven't paid attention to it.)Chandu,

Yes it's called the Cook Cup (as in Captain Cook), but is just a recent development (2 years old). It's come about as the Southern Hemisphere (AUS, NZ, SA & to some degree ARG) national teams have been too strong for the Northern Hemisphere teams over the past 10 years or so. This particular competition was a device whereby there was at least some competition between AUS & ENG on an annular basis.

In Rugby Union it's not as intense as the "Ashes Series" (of games) in Rugby League (against a combined UK team - the British Lions) or in Cricket (where the "Ashes" were actually first named).

The first touring AUS Cricket team beat the English team in a series of games in England. One person sent an Urn "containing the Ashes of English Cricket" to the MCC (the governing body of English cricket) as an act of condolence & protest. This "Ashes Urn" became the symbol of cricketing supremacy between the two countries and is played for, but never leaves England whatever the result (quite unfairly to AUS as even the America's Cup had to be handed over when lost by the USA). Rugby League then started to use the "Ashes" as a term to do likewise. It's never been quite the same in Rugby Union. Other sports also use the "Ashes" term in AUS v ENG national teams competitions (eg women's Netball; Field Hockey of both genders).

AUS v NZ (eg the annual Bledisloe Cup in Rugby Union) is about the most intense rivalry we have, but both countries love nothing better than beating England at ANYTHING (even tiddly-winks).

You can imagine then what it was like for AUS to beat England 3-1 in football in England last year, in what the English like to now characterise as a "meaningless friendly". AUS doesn't play "meaningless friendlies" in ANY sports at National Team level.

It's a completely different attitude to the rare honour afforded the elite of a sport to play in their AUS national team, at any time, in any game, anywhere in the world. It's with some dismay to all other sports persons in AUS that some of our English-based football "stars" have caught the "English disease" and are selective as to when & where they show up for national team duty. It's the insidious English view of clubs being more important than country, which is quite foreign in AUS but very strong in English football (where most of our NT players ply their trade).

Phew, hope that load of gas-bagging has helped.

[OldFanatic]

Wow, great explanation. Thanks for that, Andy Taus.