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chaski
08 Jun 2004, 01:29 PM
As one of Venezuela's most venerated religious figures, Maria Lionza has inspired hope and granted wishes to devotees for more than 200 years. So Venezuelans were shocked when a prominent 53-year-old statue of the mythical goddess split apart at the waist on Sunday and fell backward to face the heavens.
Those active in the cult of Maria Lionza, a mix of African spiritualism, Indian and Catholic beliefs, interpreted the incident as an omen that Venezuela's political crisis is nearing conclusion. "It's all coming to an end. The abuses against us and this country are ending. We are going to see liberty, truth," said Tamara Escalona, a faith healer who also happens to be a critic of President Hugo Chavez.
However, the pro-Chavez newspaper Vea accused opposition "vandals" of toppling the sacred statue during a weekend march.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=589&e=1&u=/ap/20040608/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_broken_statue


http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040607/capt.lcar10106072210.venezuela_maria_lionza_lcar101.jpg

DanRod78
08 Jun 2004, 03:29 PM
Are they blaming Chavez for that, too? Damn, some people are just crazy.

JuanArango82
08 Jun 2004, 08:44 PM
As one of Venezuela's most venerated religious figures, Maria Lionza has inspired hope and granted wishes to devotees for more than 200 years. So Venezuelans were shocked when a prominent 53-year-old statue of the mythical goddess split apart at the waist on Sunday and fell backward to face the heavens.
Those active in the cult of Maria Lionza, a mix of African spiritualism, Indian and Catholic beliefs, interpreted the incident as an omen that Venezuela's political crisis is nearing conclusion. "It's all coming to an end. The abuses against us and this country are ending. We are going to see liberty, truth," said Tamara Escalona, a faith healer who also happens to be a critic of President Hugo Chavez.
However, the pro-Chavez newspaper Vea accused opposition "vandals" of toppling the sacred statue during a weekend march.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=589&e=1&u=/ap/20040608/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_broken_statue


http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040607/capt.lcar10106072210.venezuela_maria_lionza_lcar101.jpg

I love that statue because I get to see her boobs.

DanRod78
09 Jun 2004, 12:07 PM
I love that statue because I get to see her boobs.
I love it because it teaches girls that "it's ok to show their boobs in public, because it's part of our culture" :)

JuanArango82
09 Jun 2004, 09:27 PM
That is so not true.

DanRod78
10 Jun 2004, 11:09 AM
Yes it is! that's why Chavez broke the statue, because he only likes Fidel's boobies

efernandez9
13 Mar 2006, 06:19 PM
ahora cambio la bandera de venezuela?

creo que le metio 8 estrellas y un caballo....quien tienme pic de la nueva bandera bolivariana de Venezuela?

FARFAN 17
13 Mar 2006, 07:05 PM
Yea how are you guys enjoying your new flag, and Escudo?

Garcia
13 Mar 2006, 07:36 PM
http://www.cantv.net/reportajes/images/maria-lionza-1.gif


http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/03/09/imagee0b69940-a726-43c6-88a1-b071171aa20d.jpg

Even the horse goes "left" now. :p

KesOne
14 Mar 2006, 10:46 AM
http://www.cantv.net/reportajes/images/maria-lionza-1.gif


http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/03/09/imagee0b69940-a726-43c6-88a1-b071171aa20d.jpg

Even the horse goes "left" now.

Do you have a backshot of that statue?
:D

DanRod78
14 Mar 2006, 01:36 PM
You can't tell the difference between the flags unless you stop and count the stars.
It would be like adding 2-3 stars to the american flag.

Do a search of: "Decreto bandera 20 noviembre 1817" and that's where the change comes from

I'm not saying it's something good
My point is that is not something that Chavez pulled out of his a..

Venezuelan flags since 1800
http://orbita.starmedia.com/~venezuela10/bandera.html
http://www.lacasadelasbanderas.com/evo1.html


http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandera_de_Venezuela

Simón Bolívar. Jefe Supremo de la República Capitán General de los Ejércitos de Venezuela y de Nueva Granada. Habiéndose aumentado el número de las Provincias que componen la República de Venezuela, por la incorporación de la Guayana decretada el 15 de octubre último, he decretado y decreto:
Artículo Único.- A las siete estrellas que lleva la Bandera Nacional de Venezuela se añadirá una, como emblema de la provincia de Guayana, de modo que el número de estrellas será en adelante de ocho.
Dado, firmado de mi mano, sellado con el sello provisional del Estado y refrendado por el Secretario del despacho, en el Palacio de Gobierno de la ciudad de Angostura, a 20 de noviembre de 1817.


Can you tell the difference???

Old flag
http://www.amedisk.com/catalog/images/venezuela-lgflag.jpg

New flag
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060310/i/r102523956.jpg?x=380&y=273&sig=o80aZFNh92oikq04dbrwlg--

KesOne
14 Mar 2006, 01:43 PM
You can't tell the difference between the flags unless you stop and count the stars.
It would be like adding 2-3 stars to the american flag.

Do a search of: "Decreto bandera 20 noviembre 1817" and that's where the change comes from

I'm not saying it's something good
My point is that is not something that Chavez pulled out of his a..

Venezuelan flags since 1800
http://orbita.starmedia.com/~venezuela10/bandera.html
http://www.lacasadelasbanderas.com/evo1.html


http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandera_de_Venezuela

Simón Bolívar. Jefe Supremo de la República Capitán General de los Ejércitos de Venezuela y de Nueva Granada. Habiéndose aumentado el número de las Provincias que componen la República de Venezuela, por la incorporación de la Guayana decretada el 15 de octubre último, he decretado y decreto:
Artículo Único.- A las siete estrellas que lleva la Bandera Nacional de Venezuela se añadirá una, como emblema de la provincia de Guayana, de modo que el número de estrellas será en adelante de ocho.
Dado, firmado de mi mano, sellado con el sello provisional del Estado y refrendado por el Secretario del despacho, en el Palacio de Gobierno de la ciudad de Angostura, a 20 de noviembre de 1817.


Can you tell the difference???

Old flag
http://www.amedisk.com/catalog/images/venezuela-lgflag.jpg

New flag
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060310/i/r102523956.jpg?x=380&y=273&sig=o80aZFNh92oikq04dbrwlg--


Uhhh, new flag has 1 more star :confused:

chaski
14 Mar 2006, 01:52 PM
Do a search of: "Decreto bandera 20 noviembre 1817" and that's where the change comes from
Government moves slowly in Venezuela. :p

DanRod78
14 Mar 2006, 07:26 PM
Government moves slowly in Venezuela. :p
This is what the opposition would say: "It's Chavez fault that it took almost 200 years"

I've heard people blaming Chavez for things that they did (examples: Economic sabotage 2002-2003, coups, etc, etc)

chaski
15 Mar 2006, 10:01 AM
This is what the opposition would say: "It's Chavez fault that it took almost 200 years"It only took him 7 years. :D

I've heard people blaming Chavez for things that they did (examples: Economic sabotage 2002-2003, coups, etc, etc)
The morons at the U.S. State Department once blamed him for the 2002 coup because he created the conditions that led to it. :rolleyes:

DanRod78
16 Mar 2006, 01:22 PM
The morons at the U.S. State Department once blamed him for the 2002 coup because he created the conditions that led to it. :rolleyes:
That's correct.

Let's start blaming people that get run over by cars for getting in the way (it actually makes sense)

Let's blame abused women for being abused because they are too stupid to leave the guy that beats them up.

Garcia
16 Mar 2006, 01:25 PM
That's correct.

Let's start blaming people that get run over by cars for getting in the way (it actually makes sense)

Let's blame abused women for being abused because they are too stupid to leave the guy that beats them up.
Depends if you drive on the sidewalk or the road. :p

You know the saying...

Why do you park on driveways and drive on parkways?