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sidspaceman
12 Sep 2002, 10:25 PM
You mean like the Gold Cup?

Preston North End
12 Sep 2002, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by sidspaceman
You mean like the Gold Cup?

No dude. I was giving you a hard time because of my stupidity in forgetting Colombia.

I don't think the Gold Cup is as good as Copa America in terms of overall talent and competitivness of the matches and players.

Now if we want to discuss (in another thread) the Gold Cup vs. the AFC or CAF Nations Cup...

Kronos
12 Sep 2002, 11:55 PM
Didn't Mexico and Honduras place 2nd and 3rd in the last Copa America? And Costa Rica played pretty good? The gap isn't as big as we think.

sidspaceman
13 Sep 2002, 02:36 AM
Hey I knew you were kidding Preston that’s why I put the smiley face in my post.

dheck
13 Sep 2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Kronos
Didn't Mexico and Honduras place 2nd and 3rd in the last Copa America? And Costa Rica played pretty good? The gap isn't as big as we think.

I agree that the gap isn't a big as we think, but the Copa America isn't taken as seriously by the CONMEBOL nations when it happens during WC qualifying.

Preston North End
13 Sep 2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by sidspaceman
Hey I knew you were kidding Preston that’s why I put the smiley face in my post.

O.K.

VioletCrown
17 Sep 2002, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by dheck
I agree that the gap isn't a big as we think, but the Copa America isn't taken as seriously by the CONMEBOL nations when it happens during WC qualifying.

And when it's being played in countries where the national coach is ... shot at, was it? Sorry, I don't remember exactly how threatened he was.

Sachin
17 Sep 2002, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by VioletCrown


And when it's being played in countries where the national coach is ... shot at, was it? Sorry, I don't remember exactly how threatened he was.

That was Diario, the Ecudoran coach. Not in Colombia.

Every single faction declared a cease fire during the Copa America. As one paramilitary put it, "We are all too busy watching to be fighting."

Sachin

anderson
17 Sep 2002, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by Sachin
... Every single faction declared a cease fire during the Copa America. As one paramilitary put it, "We are all too busy watching to be fighting."And Argentina still didn't send a team. :rolleyes: Hopefully, that won't be an issue in Peru.

Guinho
17 Sep 2002, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by flanoverseas
yeah, but...

At its debut it was $0.88 to the dollar, dropping to a low of $0.85 up to $1.01/02 and has been hovering around $.099

A $0.15 swing in six months is A LOT. For every Euro you gain $0.15

A $1,000 vacation is now $1500 cheaper than before, no to mention the economic profit of more money earned + less money spent = total savings.

I know, but I can't resist.

So if the $1000 vacation is $1500 cheaper, then that must be that vacationing in the US costs
-$500. In other words, FIFA must be paying people to come to the Confederations Cup, which would explain why it's broke.... :)

Sorry, really.

Guinho

Qdog
18 Sep 2002, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Guinho


I know, but I can't resist.

So if the $1000 vacation is $1500 cheaper, then that must be that vacationing in the US costs
-$500. In other words, FIFA must be paying people to come to the Confederations Cup, which would explain why it's broke.... :)

Sorry, really.

Guinho

Indeed you should be sorry. He never said FIFA was paying. :)

sidspaceman
22 Sep 2002, 01:25 AM
The most striking move would have the league take off the months of June and July to focus on the U.S. Cup and the FIFA Confederations Cup, which will be hosted by the United States.

Does anybody know if this true?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mls/news/20020921/mlschanges.html

Elninho
22 Sep 2002, 07:33 AM
Don't bet on it. Jamie Trecker wrote that one.

Ubiquitous One
22 Sep 2002, 08:56 AM
Cnnsi is reporting the same thing that Sid mentioned, so it might not be a case of Trecker-nihilism.

No clauses at all -- states matter-of-factly that the U.S. is hosting the Confederations Cup.

Atouk
22 Sep 2002, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Ubiquitous One
Cnnsi is reporting the same thing that Sid mentioned, so it might not be a case of Trecker-nihilism.

No clauses at all -- states matter-of-factly that the U.S. is hosting the Confederations Cup.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/us/news/2002/09/21/mls_changes/

It's the same story, just without the Trecker byline, but they're both from SportsTicker.

The vote on the Confed Cup is supposed to take place Monday or Tuesday, so it's possible that the MLS folks know how it's going to go and are figuring out how to handle the impact.

Or, with the US Cup, Confed Cup, and Gold Cup taking place next summer, maybe they'll take June/July off even if we only host two of the three.

If the US is hosting both a Nike US Cup and the Confederations Cup next summer, what will that do to the Gold Cup, I wonder. Mexico?

prk166
22 Sep 2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by dheck


I agree that the gap isn't a big as we think, but the Copa America isn't taken as seriously by the CONMEBOL nations when it happens during WC qualifying.

I can't blame that a single bit, either. Playing 18 games just to get the WC is way too many.

sidspaceman
22 Sep 2002, 03:13 PM
The USMNT team sounds like they are going to have a very busy summer next year. I hope the US gets the Confed cup next year and maybe invites Colombia to pay in the Nike US Cup.

anderson
22 Sep 2002, 03:48 PM
Ok, sorry if this is really old news, but there's going to be a men's Nike US Cup in 2003?

I know that there's a women's Nike US Cup coming up next week, but there hasn't been one for the men since 2000. Has there been an announcement for a men's US Cup in 03?

I've only seen news on the Concacaf GC and Fifa CC.

GPK
23 Sep 2002, 12:07 PM
Decision coming today or tomorrow (http://www.fifa.com/Service/MR_M/43616_E.html)

Postmaster
23 Sep 2002, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by GPK
Decision coming today or tomorrow (http://www.fifa.com/Service/MR_M/43616_E.html)

and is now available -- France. Darn.
http://www.fifa.com/Service/MR_A/43881_E.html

See also: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15370.