New stadium webcam?

[jegerpenge]

I was sitting here wondering if this already existed somewhere because I would love to see some live footage. I've emailed the club to suggest that it would be cool if they put a live feed of the construction site on their homepage. If anyone else agrees with me, send them an email requesting the same. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to see how things are progressing more often than just a few monthly pictures. Anyone connected to the club know if this is a reasonable idea?

[mixmastermatt]

ive been thinking of this aswell

i will email

[Jabinho]

You likely know we had one for the building of the HDC here in LA but then we had a lot of university buildings handy for a webcam. What's near your site?
Oh.. this is the Arsenal forum. I assumed it was Dallas.. :o

[jegerpenge]

Jeff? Rick? Anyone know if this would be possible?

[Philip in London]

There are some 15-20 storey blocks of flats just across the railway line on the Western side of the site, that could be used. There's nothing tall to the East or South, but the views in from the East are open, so a webcam on top of one of the 3-4 storey buildings there would be fine.

EDIT. The site is a triangle, so it doesn't have a north side.

[mad theory]

Off topic here but I couldn't be arsed to make a thread..

Ok our new stadium cost 350 million? And how come the Benficas stadium only cost 78 million, it holds 5 thousand more than us and it was designed by the same architects(HOK Sport)?

I understand we have also bought some acres of land, but where does the rest of the money go?

PS. The staduim that held the CL final in Germany was about 100mil and it is better than the one we're building...

Sorry for being so bitchy but I want our stadium to be the best in England!!

[VaVaVoom]

Off topic here but I couldn't be arsed to make a thread..

Ok our new stadium cost 350 million? And how come the Benficas stadium only cost 78 million, it holds 5 thousand more than us and it was designed by the same architects(HOK Sport)?

I understand we have also bought some acres of land, but where does the rest of the money go?

PS. The staduim that held the CL final in Germany was about 100mil and it is better than the one we're building...

Sorry for being so bitchy but I want our stadium to be the best in England!!

Almost all of the stadia being built nowadays are roughly the same cost (except for Wembly). The big difference for Ashburton Grove was (1) the value of the real estate in Central London and (2) all the other crazy things that were required to get permission to build. We had to build a state-of-the-art waste recycling centre (it's a very wild looking building), buy a bunch of other businesses to make room for the construction, I think there were some transportation infrastructure improvements required that we were required to pay for, and then there's the fact that the process started so long ago that interest costs, legal costs, admin costs, etc. were all much higher than hoped.

[phishy]

Off topic here but I couldn't be arsed to make a thread..

Ok our new stadium cost 350 million? And how come the Benficas stadium only cost 78 million, it holds 5 thousand more than us and it was designed by the same architects(HOK Sport)?

I understand we have also bought some acres of land, but where does the rest of the money go?

PS. The staduim that held the CL final in Germany was about 100mil and it is better than the one we're building...

Sorry for being so bitchy but I want our stadium to be the best in England!!

Mad, I believe it has something to do w/the price of realestate in London.. the flats that are going along w/it, and the excavation of the land...

P~

[Lanesra]

Almost all of the stadia being built nowadays are roughly the same cost (except for Wembly). The big difference for Ashburton Grove was (1) the value of the real estate in Central London and (2) all the other crazy things that were required to get permission to build. We had to build a state-of-the-art waste recycling centre (it's a very wild looking building), buy a bunch of other businesses to make room for the construction, I think there were some transportation infrastructure improvements required that we were required to pay for, and then there's the fact that the process started so long ago that interest costs, legal costs, admin costs, etc. were all much higher than hoped.

And ours is going to be the best. :)

[Dave_M]

EDIT. The site is a triangle, so it doesn't have a north side.

That means no more North Bank :mad:

[VaVaVoom]

That means no more North Bank :mad:

The site is a triange, but the stadium is roundish (although a triangular stadium would certainly be different). If the club has any sense whatsoever, there will be a very familiar looking clock over the south end of the stadium and the the North-West-East ends of the stadium will be so named.

[jegerpenge]

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we get economists in to look at the exact number of seats that would be most profitable before we start losing money on maintenance? I would rather have excellent planning and a beautiful stadium that puts us on a different level monetarily than 5000 stupid extra seats.

[mixmastermatt]

i received this last night from arsenal:

Subject: RE: Arsenal.com Feedback - feedback



Dear Matt Clifford

Thank you for your email.

There are plans to install a webcam for the new stadium. Full details will appear on the web-site www.arsenal.com.

Regards

For Arsenal Football Club

[jegerpenge]

Exellent. I didn't get a response, but I'm glad that you did. I guess living in the states makes me insignificant in the grand scheme of things. And I see that they've released new aerial images. The pictures seem to be coming quicker and quicker. I guess they're starting to realize people want to see how construction is going.

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=209335&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=New+aerial+stadium+images+-+Picture+Special&navlid=&sublid=&Title=New+aerial+stadium+images+-+Picture+Special

[Dave_M]

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we get economists in to look at the exact number of seats that would be most profitable before we start losing money on maintenance? I would rather have excellent planning and a beautiful stadium that puts us on a different level monetarily than 5000 stupid extra seats.

At the risk of sounding condisending, thats because for the most part your not in a position to NEED one of those 5000 extra seats. As a resident of North London (deep in Spurs territory HA!) it pains me that im lucky if I can get to 4 games in a season.

There are enough people on the Ticket Registration Scheme to fill highbury twice, and the waiting list for the TRS is several years long - so the situation is unlikely to improve even with 60,000 seats. It would take closer to 80 to saite the TRS members, and that not counting Season Ticket holders and the new "Red" members and general sale.

Also when you consider that we used to fill Wembley no problem, then somehow 60,000 seas just feels totally inadiquite.

[mad theory]

Exactly, And 5000 more seats will add to the atmosphere.

Like Mr.Fiszman already stated that 60,000 will not be enough but they couldn't find a bigger site in Islington, and they want to remain in Islington.
So 60,000 it is.

[VaVaVoom]

Exactly, And 5000 more seats will add to the atmosphere.

Like Mr.Fiszman already stated that 60,000 will not be enough but they couldn't find a bigger site in Islington, and they want to remain in Islington.
So 60,000 it is.

From what I've read in match programmes, it wasn't the size of the site that limited the stadium to 60,000, it was the maximum amount they could get planning permission for from the Islington council. Any neighborhood will have concerns with getting completely overrun when there is a game, and given the transportation infrastructure, denisity of housing and businesses in the area, etc., 60,000 was what the council determined the max was. If it was up to Arsenal, and determined on current & future demand, it probably would have been a bit bigger, but that was part of the trade off (along with the increased cost) of remaining in the same area as THOF. In any event, I don't think it is automatic that we will sell out the new stadium every week.

[jegerpenge]

Apparently Arsenal have listened to us and the webcam has been put up on Arsenal.com. It's nothing to really sit and look at, but it's cool that you can look it up every day or so and see how things are progressing:

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=214025&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Arsenal+launch+New+Stadium+webcam&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Arsenal+launch+New+Stadium+webcam

[Rick B]

There are enough people on the Ticket Registration Scheme to fill highbury twice, and the waiting list for the TRS is several years long - so the situation is unlikely to improve even with 60,000 seats. It would take closer to 80 to saite the TRS members, and that not counting Season Ticket holders and the new "Red" members and general sale.

Also when you consider that we used to fill Wembley no problem, then somehow 60,000 seas just feels totally inadiquite.

a) Jegerpenge, sorry was in Zimbabwe when you started this thread and didn't see it otherwise would of phoned Jill, anyway as you know there is now a webcam. (although im surprised they arn't charging us to watch it... ;)

b) Contary to common misconceptions, there are only 20,000 TRS members (now silver) and 10,000 on the waiting list. Many TRS numbers are used by touts, so the turnover when they get caught is about 1000 a year.

c) Although there are 20,000 TRS members only 8,000 tickets go on sale for these members for a league game and about 5,000 for a C.L. game. But STILL about half the league games reached general sale last year. So the Red membership is to stop that (whilst the club get a membership fee). I personally don't believe that the new stadium will sell out every game. There are many people who are Arsenal fans who arn't prepared to pay to go to the matches (which is fine, ive got no problem with that) but have memberships so that they can be 'involved'. This gives out a lot of misinformation on our true waiting lists and how big a stadium we actually need.

d) To any English fan who wants tickets and can't get them, join the 'red' membership and there will be quite a few onsales as TRS member sales often don't sell out. Yes I know it's difficult to be at the computer at 9.30am, but if you want to go to a game, thats how you've got to do it......