Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Wenger is a Liar!!!

[Rewinder]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6795557.ece

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The Arsenal manager, who has often been criticised for his selective myopia, admits in a wide-ranging interview with The Times that his first instinct is always to protect his players. “Sometimes I see it, but I say that
I didn’t see it to protect the players and because I could not find any rational explanation for that they did,” he said.

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[mebeSajid]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6795557.ece

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;)


Would you rather he pulled a rednose and threw his players under the bus?

[antifan]

The full interview:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6795542.ece

[biggonez]

Did this really require a thread?

[XCdude24]

Did this really require a thread?

Yes, it does. Any Arsene interview where he doesn't talk about the same old "we don't need to strengthen"/"we lacked sharpness" bullshit is worth talking about.

I thought the Martin Samuel version of the interview is a bit better:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206393/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Yes-I-things-say-I-didnt--protect-players-Welcome-world-Arsene-Wenger.html

If you read closely enough into these articles, you see why Arsenal is the way it is today, why Arsene makes certain decisions.

[biggonez]

Well calling Wenger a liar when posting an article about Wenger protecting his young players, seems like trying to promote an argment.

[Hyuuga Neji]

Yes, it does. Any Arsene interview where he doesn't talk about the same old "we don't need to strengthen"/"we lacked sharpness" bullshit is worth talking about.

I thought the Martin Samuel version of the interview is a bit better:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206393/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Yes-I-things-say-I-didnt--protect-players-Welcome-world-Arsene-Wenger.html

If you read closely enough into these articles, you see why Arsenal is the way it is today, why Arsene makes certain decisions.
Tell you what, that is a fantastic interview. Arsene is a fascinating character.

[Val1]

Well calling Wenger a liar when posting an article about Wenger protecting his young players, seems like trying to promote an argment.
Well, it's called hyperbole, and this is a message board, and it was rather attention grabbing, don't you think?

[gunner0007]

He surely is and it surely is. And you can see why Cesc is staying now. AW sacrificed alot to develop Fabregas into a solid player and now he is going to be doing the same to Wilshere. So it sounds like next year will be Wilshere's breakout year with him starting to see some major minutes.

Tell you what, that is a fantastic interview. Arsene is a fascinating character.

[Rewinder]

Did this really require a thread?

Well calling Wenger a liar when posting an article about Wenger protecting his young players, seems like trying to promote an argment.

I thought the two smileys conveyed my intentions behind this as Val stated. Secondly, we don't have a general thread for things that don't fall into the individual player/transfers/kits/finance bucket.

Lastly I was hoping you guys would read the interview, and the full version is much better, as it had some pretty interesting insights into what Wenger does and why.

[The Grimster]

Did this really require a thread?


of course it does. This is an excellent interview and I had intended to post it if someone hadn't already done so.

[DaPrince84]

Yes, it does. Any Arsene interview where he doesn't talk about the same old "we don't need to strengthen"/"we lacked sharpness" bullshit is worth talking about.

I thought the Martin Samuel version of the interview is a bit better:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206393/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Yes-I-things-say-I-didnt--protect-players-Welcome-world-Arsene-Wenger.html

If you read closely enough into these articles, you see why Arsenal is the way it is today, why Arsene makes certain decisions.
this is an amazing interview... not even for the football side of it...

Wenger is a brilliant man... and this will piss some off, he is a bit if a socialist :)



good football related blip:
How do you respond, though, to the criticism of many, including some Arsenal fans, that you have such a strong belief in this philosophy that you are now entrenched? You wouldn’t change it even if you could. You could be two players away and you still wouldn’t buy them.

Yes, but once you get into that position you are in a trap. When Cesc Fabregas was 18, 19, I would play him in a 4-4-2 with Patrick Vieira and I saw it did not work. Then I had the decision to make about letting Patrick go, because Gilberto Silva and Vieira worked, Fabregas and Silva worked, but I could not play Fabregas and Vieira. But Fabregas was 19 and if he did not play I knew he would want to go, so we risked destroying everything, all the work we had put into this player. Now we have that same situation with Jack Wilshere.

He is 17 and we cannot ask him to play every game to win the championship, he will play a few games maybe. But next year he will be ready to play all the time, he will want to play all the time and if we have bought a player in his position he will want to go. That is why you either have a policy of buying confirmed players, top, top players of 23 or over, or doing it as we are. (Animatedly.) The team we have now gets there. At 22 or 23 I think a team is mature enough to deliver and it is a massively important year for our club. I am conscious of that. I know people have no patience anymore.

[Rewinder]

Wenger is a brilliant man... and this will piss some off, he is a bit if a socialist :)


I'm surprised no one is running the Wenger backs NWO angle :p

[DaPrince84]

I'm surprised no one is running the Wenger backs NWO angle :p
that too, lol

altho I dont think he meant it the way those crazies mean an One World Government to be (altho I dont agree with him about the need for having that in the future)



another one:

You described yourself as an emotional person when responding to stress. Beyond football, are you emotional, do you watch films and find them moving?

I am not extrovert. I do not like to show my emotions. In my job I learned very early on to dominate my emotions. You can cause a lot of damage if you express your feelings with the team. After a game you can do fantastic damage by going overboard and saying negative things you cannot repair. I learnt the final part of mastering your emotions in Japan. You have people there, a man loses his wife in the morning, he comes to work and does not speak about it. They do not wish to disturb others with their problems.

Not always healthy though, is it?

It is criminal for that person. Whenever there is trauma in the world, psychologists encourage people to talk about it, because it is important it comes out of you. I am sure I pay a price sometimes for holding it in.

How is that manifested?

I don’t know what it does to my health. I know it pays a price on my head, that is for sure.

[Darth Norteño]

"In my job I learned very early that you can cause a lot of damage if you express your feelings with the team. After a game you can do fantastic damage by saying negative things."


Absolutely. Managers have to "lie" to some extent; would it be prudent of Gareth Southgate to say "christ almighty, we're ********ing shite" every time Middlesbrough drop a match?

This really is a good article. I'm so glad to have not just an honest football man managing this club, but someone with genuine aspiration and near boundless passion.

[Naushad78]

Wow, so he thinks everyone is Cesc Fabregas and has to be made way for?!

Fascinating insight into the man in that interview, really does explain a lot of his on-field decisions.

Ultimately, for me, he's the manager of ARSENAL FC and it's looking more like Arsene FC. Sadly, as evidenced by what we see on the pitch and in this interview...the team is serving the youth system where as the youth system should be serving the team.

Idealist, romantic views on the beautiful game and that's what makes us so beautiful to watch most of the time. He's done a marvellous job up until 2004 and he gets a million credits for that.

[Fun with Acid]

I thought the two smileys conveyed my intentions behind this as Val stated. Secondly, we don't have a general thread for things that don't fall into the individual player/transfers/kits/finance bucket.

Lastly I was hoping you guys would read the interview, and the full version is much better, as it had some pretty interesting insights into what Wenger does and why.

I would like to thank you.



Thank you.

I like that this is a tidy board but the thread police around here can be a bit much.

AW is a very reasonable man.

[antifan]

Here is part one of the full transcript:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206377/ARSENE-WENGER-INTERVIEW-The-transcript-Martin-Samuels-fascinating-meeting-Arsenal-manager--I.html

[biggonez]

I thought the two smileys conveyed my intentions behind this as Val stated. Secondly, we don't have a general thread for things that don't fall into the individual player/transfers/kits/finance bucket.

Lastly I was hoping you guys would read the interview, and the full version is much better, as it had some pretty interesting insights into what Wenger does and why.

I got you. I thought with the title and not reading the interview, too many others wouldn't and this thread would turn into a stupid argument.

[Papa Burgundy]

great interview.