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Ikari
20 May 2004, 03:38 AM
How many coaches is too many/little? I'm looking at my training page, and it's telling me it will be damn near 2-3 months for any of my players to advance a stat.

Is this reasonably alright, or should I be buying more coaches?

ur_land
20 May 2004, 04:09 AM
A lot of this is in the advice for newbies thread or the big hattrick thread (and if it isn't it should be), but since you asked:

You don't want any less or any more than 10 total assistant and goal keeping coaches.

If you train GK, you probably want 6 GK coaches and 4 assistant coaches, or 8 gk coaches and 2 asst. coaches.

If you train anything else, you probably want 9 asst. coaches and 1 gk coach.

The rule of thumb is that a 17 yo will take 7 weeks to go up (or pop) one level of skill in playmaking. Add one week for each year they are older than 17, up 'til about 20-21, at which point training gets reeeeeaaaaalllllyyyy slow. Scoring and defense training takes about as long, GK and winger training takes about half as long, and stamina and set piece training take about 1/3 as long. You should never train shooting. Only train general if your form is absolute crap and you next few games are must win.

The above are all estimates picked up from my elders here and on the hattrick conferences. Take with a grain of salt.

kopiteinkc
20 May 2004, 09:32 AM
You should never train shooting.


Chris had some dicsussions with some other players about this recently. I forget the details exactly.

Enlightenment, Chris?

Helghallen
20 May 2004, 09:58 AM
You don't want any less or any more than 10 total assistant and goal keeping coaches.


Of course financial considerations apply here as well, but the benefit of speedy training, really outweighs the burden of the salaries.

Craig P
20 May 2004, 04:41 PM
How many coaches is too many/little? I'm looking at my training page, and it's telling me it will be damn near 2-3 months for any of my players to advance a stat.How old are they, what's the coaching skill of your current trainer, and how many assistants do you have currently? Three months seems a bit on the long side, two months should be on the high side unless you're training defenders.

I'm not sure how old your club is or how your economy looks right now, but you should max out your assistants as soon as you feel you can afford it. It's not unreasonable for a new club to stay a little low, though... I went for a couple of months at four and one before gradually stepping it up to eight and two (then dropping back to six and four in response to some conference discussion).

SupremoPete
20 May 2004, 05:00 PM
This reminds me of a story i heard about a Swedish hattrick player who had 50 assistant coaches. He got no training some weeks but when he did get training, lots of his players rose levels

Ikari
20 May 2004, 06:34 PM
How old are they, what's the coaching skill of your current trainer, and how many assistants do you have currently? Three months seems a bit on the long side, two months should be on the high side unless you're training defenders.The people I'm trying to raise are between 18-21 or so. Coaching skill is passable, and I have 2 GK and 3 Assist coaches. I was probably going to pick up 4 more GK coaches and then start training/selling keepers.

Economy is...er..well. Midrange 5 digits. Managing to break even about every other week or so. Need to start having more home game friendlies.

kuhnscoot
20 May 2004, 07:45 PM
Economy is...er..well. Midrange 5 digits. Managing to break even about every other week or so. Need to start having more home game friendlies.


With friendlies, why not try and schedule home-home with people? That allows you both to get a home friendly. Or you can always find a cup to play in (cheap plug) the Bigsoccer Cup looks like it will be back for a second season, so you can probably look for signups for that sometime early next season, depending on the number of teams and groups, you could get at least 2-3 home games from that.

ZeekLTK
20 May 2004, 11:30 PM
You get money either way for friendlies, home or away. The deal is you split the revenue 50/50, so if you need more money from friendlies it's not that you need more home games, its just you need to play in bigger stadiums, which will get bigger crowds, and thus more money.

Deuteriumoxide
20 May 2004, 11:45 PM
not only in bigger stadiums... but against bigger teams.

more people will come to your house to see a division 4 team than your division 6 series dancing partner.

Craig P
21 May 2004, 12:57 AM
It's better still to go visit a more-established squad that has a large supporter base. As an example, I'm up high enough now that when I'm playing well, I can draw over 2000 for another American side.

Ikari
21 May 2004, 08:11 PM
Well, I picked up a 3rd GK coach. Coupled with 100% training for GK, my goalies will pop in 7 weeks time. I thought about buying 4 more GK's to bring me up to 7 GK and 3 assist coaches, but I want to wait until the end of my next league match to see how things look.