The best team ... ever

[Burkies Ginger Mop]

thats twice, not more than twice...

(to the guy that mentioned rangers)How many champions league titles have rangers won?

anyways, we all know the best team in the world is Freddy Adu...

Rangers have never won the champions league or the old European cup. The only Scottish team to do so are the great unwashed. We won the cup winners cup in the 70’s. Over all we are the most successful team in world in the amount of trophies we have won.

[afgrijselijkheid]

Yep, its exclusively American to like Man Utd.

C'mon, did an American steal your girlfriend? Get the stick outta your ass.


ummmmm i am american...... dumbass

[Treetaliano]

this is a shameful poll because the choices explain why american fans get no respect - manU? inter?

The dude who started this "poll" lists his location as England man...maybe wasnt the brightest idea to call out some guy for not looking at your user profile when you did the same thing...

check your PM's later though..gotta question for ya...

[afgrijselijkheid]

The dude who started this "poll" lists his location as England man...maybe wasnt the brightest idea to call out some guy for not looking at your user profile when you did the same thing...


oh i saw it... i just didn't believe it - i mean "man rovers"? that should have been the tip off

[Invincible Gooners]

and is there any particular reason you suggested arsenal instead of AJAX? arsenal are next to nothing historicallyMy word do you actually know anything about history?

To say that Arsenal are next to nothing is totally disrespectful to a great club. Ok they may never of won the ultimate European prize and in modern day terms may not warrant a place on the top table...but to say they have no history in the game is such a false statement.

Pre Second World War they were arguably the finest club in the World and played football that was never seen elsewhere. Many of the World's great coaches viewed Arsenal as a great marker to bringing success to their respective clubs.

As an Ajax fan you should know that Rinus Michels the greatest Dutch coach of all time modelled much of his learning on the way Arsenal demonstrated the 'W' formation and the quality of pace and skill that was required for it to succeed. Ajax have my respect as a formidable club in producing great young talent, but their methods are born from the 1930s Arsenal model.

Historically Arsenal have given to the game much and any true historian of this wonderful game will understand the huge influence the Gunners have placed on the global game.
The introduction of small things like numbers on shirts, floodlight training, the leather football stitched and many medical aspects were devised and used first by the Arsenal.
Finally, to enter into a smaller argument here, but Arsenal are third in National titles behind Liverpool (18) and Manchester United (14) with 13 titles spread over the vast majority of every decade since the 30s...if you are looking for continuity and continued success Arsenal are by no means next to nothing...for that..to be an argument with any credence..i suggest you take a good look at yourself and ask...do you really know your football, because for a Dutchman im dissapointed to say you dont......

[Comnios]

Sao Paulo makes sense because it was the club of Pele

Juventus and Bayern deserve to be here, as well as Benfica and Stade de Reims

Rangers may have won a lot of title, but not difficult in a championship of 12 clubs like the scotland one.

[Burkies Ginger Mop]

Sao Paulo makes sense because it was the club of Pele

Juventus and Bayern deserve to be here, as well as Benfica and Stade de Reims

Rangers may have won a lot of title, but not difficult in a championship of 12 clubs like the scotland one.

It’s not always been 12 teams. You can only beat what is put in front of you and to win the league 50 times is still a great achievement. No other team in the world comes close. It means than on average Rangers have won the league title every other year. But we have only won one European title and that’s not good enough. I don’t think there can be much argument that Real Madrid are the most successful European team ever. I don’t know enough about South American football to comment.

[comme]

Sao Paulo makes sense because it was the club of Pele

Juventus and Bayern deserve to be here, as well as Benfica and Stade de Reims

Rangers may have won a lot of title, but not difficult in a championship of 12 clubs like the scotland one.


Pele played for Santos not Sao Paolo. Stade Reims have no place in a thread of this sort.

[talina_baby]

Superdupermegaultanitro Porto!

[AjaX.amSterdam]

I Voted Fot Other.. Because Ajax is the best team ever !! :p haha

[AjaX.amSterdam]

BTW

anyways, we all know the best team in the world is Freddy Adu...

Didn't know Freddy Adu was A team ? :D

[Excape Goat]

The poll should be Boca Juniors, Ajax, Liverpool, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Bayern Munich.

Boca Juniors
5 Copa Libertadores(tied for 2)
3 Intercontinental Club Cup(tied for 1st)
2nd all-time domestic league titles.
Note: Penrol also won the same numbers of Copa Libertadores and Intercontinental Club Cup.

Ajax:
4 European Cup
1 UEFA Cup
1 Cup Winners' Cup
2 Intercontinental Club Cup
# 5(tied) all-time European titles.
#1 all-time domestic league titles.

AC Milan:
6 European Cup
2 Cup Winners' Cup
3 Intercontinental Club Cup(tied for #1)
# 2 all-time European titles.
#2 all-time domestic league titles.

Real Madrid:
9 European Cup
2 UEFA Cup
3 Intercontinental Club Cup(tied for #1)
# 1 all-time European titles.
#1 all-time domestic league titles.

Bayern Munich:
4 European Cup
1 UEFA Cup
1 Cup Winners' Cup
2 Intercontinental Club Cup
# 5(tied) all-time European titles
#1 all-time domestic league titles.

Liverpool:
4 European Cup
3 UEFA Cup
#4 all-time European titles
#1 all-time domestic league titles.

Sorry other teams mentioned here, but not considered in my opinion. Juventus in my opinion is the only team who could be in the poll. They are not considered because they did not do very well in European Cup. Arsenal

Inter Milan:
2 European Cup
3 UEFA Cup
2 Intercontinental Club Cup
# 8 all-time European titles.
#3 all-time domestic league titles.

Juventus
2 European Cup
3 UEFA Cup
1 Cup Winners' Cup
2 Intercontinental Club Cup
# 5(tied) all-time European titles.
#1 all-time domestic league titles.

Manchester Utd
2 European Cup
1 Cup Winners' Cup
1 Intercontinental Club Cup
#10(tied with Porto) all-time European titles
2nd all-time domestic league titles.

Arsenal
1 UEFA Cup
1 Cup Winners' Cup
#21(tied with Chelsea, Dinamo Kiev, Real Zaragoza) all-time European titles or the 4th most successful English clubs after Hotspur, Liverpool and Manchester Utd.
#3 all-time domestic league titles.


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FC Barcelona deserved a mention. They won 8 trophies in Europe. Only Real Madrid won more. They are one of four European teams who had won all three major European trophies.
1 European Cup
3 UEFA Cup
4 Cup Winners' Cup
#2(tied) all-time European Titles.
#2 all-time domestic league titles.

[Invincible Gooners]

Arsenal
1 UEFA Cup
1 Cup Winners' Cup
#21(tied with Chelsea, Dinamo Kiev, Real Zaragoza) all-time European titles or the 4th most successful English clubs after Hotspur, Liverpool and Manchester Utd.
#3 all-time domestic league titles.



As opposed to the huge success by Tottenham of...NO domestic League titles..since 1992...or in the case of all tiime...correctly stated 13 Arsenal domestic titles to 2 for Tottenham.........

Fourth behind Hotspur!!!!!! my butt!!!
Granted behind the other two but...please dont post such insults.... :mad:

[lanman]

Fourth behind Hotspur!!!!!! my butt!!!
Granted behind the other two but...please dont post such insults.... :mad:

In terms of European success Arsenal rank behind Spurs - 3 European trophies to two - of all English clubs only Liverpool have won more trophies in Europe than Spurs.

[Excape Goat]

As opposed to the huge success by Tottenham of...NO domestic League titles..since 1992...or in the case of all tiime...correctly stated 13 Arsenal domestic titles to 2 for Tottenham.........

Fourth behind Hotspur!!!!!! my butt!!!
Granted behind the other two but...please dont post such insults.... :mad:

I am stating facts. Arsenal got 2 titles and Hotspur with 3 titles. No one can change that. How can you agrue that Arsenal won more titles than Hotspur?

And I forgot to mention that Arseanl is tied with 4th with Nottingham Forrest, Leeds Utd and Chelsea.

Liverpool 7 titles, 4 EC/CL, 3 UC.
MU 3 titles, 2 EC/CL, 1 CWC.
Hotspur 3 titles, 1 CWC, 2 UC
Nottingham Forrest 2 titles, 2 EC/CL
Chelsea 2 titles, 2 CWC
Arsenal 2 titles, 1 CWC, 1 UC.
Leeds United 2 titles, 2 UC.

In most ranking system, they counted the importance of the trophies. Nottingham won two European Cups. So they usually ranked ahead of Arsenal, but I decided to count them straight up.
I admitted I wanted to push Arsenal ranking one more spot upward because Arsenal fans would be upset. Arsenal would have dropped to 6th, regardless how I see the importance of the trophies. Chelsea would be 5th and Arsenal 6th if I see CWC more important than UEFA Cup. If I see UEFA Cup more important than CWC, Leeds Utd would be 5th and Arsenal would be 6th.

[www.stgeorgeforum.tk]

Best team ever, I could be swayed in thinking it was Madrid with carlos, figo, zidane, raul, beckham but I don't know. I'm between Madrid and Juventus... :)

[talina_baby]

Best team ever, I could be swayed in thinking it was Madrid with carlos, figo, zidane, raul, beckham but I don't know. I'm between Madrid and Juventus... :)
Roberto Carlos. Carlos isn't his surname, it's part of his entire Brasilian nickname.

:)

[The Double]

Man U
Inter Milan
Sao Paulo
Real Madrid

Is this a joke?

[Paddster]

Sao Paulo makes sense because it was the club of Pele

Juventus and Bayern deserve to be here, as well as Benfica and Stade de Reims

Rangers may have won a lot of title, but not difficult in a championship of 12 clubs like the scotland one.

The Scottish league used to be pretty decent. Aberdeen used to be very good (i think they beat Real Madrid), Celtic used to finish below second (this was the Rangers 9 in-a-row period :) ). Still though, Rangers need to prove them selves in Europe to be in that list.

[elsoluis]

Liverpool