stadium requirements of Belize, Nicaragua

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2009-10 season

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Champions_League_2009%E2%80%9310

2 Berth originally awarded to Belize Premier Football League 2009 champion, but Belize failed the
CONCACAF stadium requirements, so the spot vacated by Belize was awarded to Honduras (HON3).

3 Berth originally awarded to Real Estelí of the Primera División de Nicaragua, was rescinded after a
failed stadium inspection by CONCACAF officials. The bid was reallocated to Costa Rica, raising
the total of Costa Rican bids to three.




2008-09 season

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONCACAF_Champions_League_2008%E2%80%9309_Preliminary_Round
[Nicaragua] Real Estelí home match played in Honduras
[Belize] Hankook Verdes home match played in Guatemala






:confused:
can CONCACAF explain?

[Mr. Orange]

...can CONCACAF explain?According to one of the articles linked to the Wikipedia entry:

"Tournament regulations require teams play their home games within their own country in facilities that meet minimum requirements with regard to the field, lighting, changing rooms and fan amenities.

CONCACAF allowed for a one-year grace period for teams to meet the standards but after that, teams were to be replaced from other countries based on the performance of their clubs in the previous Champions League."

[Rjbatzler]

The point of the rule is so that the games are played at a suitable stadium with good locker rooms, lighting for night games, good pitch, good seating, etc and also to serve as motivation for these federations to improve their facilities.

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can't playing in neutral venues ???

[Rjbatzler]

can't playing in neutral venues ???

The rule is that the stadium has to be in the host country. Last year games were played in neighboring countries but this year the rule has changed. Nicaragua and Belize now need to build stadiums up to requirments in order to have a club team in the champions league.

[Flipstar508]

I always wondered how hard is it for these federations and clubs to put together a 6,000 to 10,000 seat stadium. Is the cost of the stadiums a problem?

[SideshowBob]

I always wondered how hard is it for these federations and clubs to put together a 6,000 to 10,000 seat stadium. Is the cost of the stadiums a problem?

I've kind of wondered that as well. I know we aren't talking about wealthy countries, but how expensive would be it to build a modest sized stadium with lights and okay locker rooms. Especially if it could be built for both a club team (or teams) as well as national team use.

[EvanJ]

I've kind of wondered that as well. I know we aren't talking about wealthy countries, but how expensive would be it to build a modest sized stadium with lights and okay locker rooms. Especially if it could be built for both a club team (or teams) as well as national team use.

The national teams from Belize and Nicaragua don't get far in World Cup qualifying and don't host many games.

[SideshowBob]

The national teams from Belize and Nicaragua don't get far in World Cup qualifying and don't host many games.

Well, maybe they could get on the rotation of the UNCAF Nations Cup with a decent stadium.

[EvanJ]

In its current format, the UNCAF Nations Cup has 14 games per tournament (9 group, 2 semifinals, fifth place, third place, and final; correct me if I'm wrong) and is held every two years. If the seven UNCAF countries rotated, each country would then get to host one 14 game tournament every 14 years for an average of one game per year. How much revenue would that generate for Belize and Nicaragua?

[el_cuscatleco]

Well if everything goes to schedule, Nicaragua should be alright to host games for next years tournament. Work is already well under way on there new stadium (will hold 20,000-25,000 and have artificial turf); unluckly for them they didn't get it open in in June/July as expected but hopefully it will be done by years end or early next year.

Here's some clips from youtube on it's construction;

Estadio Nacional de futbol de Nicaragua

Estadio Nacional de Futbol Nicaragua

There was also an episode of FIFA Futbol Mundial that featured the stadium a few months back. I saw it on TV, but i can't find an online link. From what i saw though, it was looking good and the construction was more advanced then in the two videos above.

[pc4th]

CONCACAF should donate $10 million each to Belize and Nicaragua so they can build the stadiums. With the stipulation that the other $10 million will come from private sources/government etc....to build a $20 mil stadium. So Concacaf donates 50%.

[el_cuscatleco]

CONCACAF should donate $10 million each to Belize and Nicaragua so they can build the stadiums. With the stipulation that the other $10 million will come from private sources/government etc....to build a $20 mil stadium. So Concacaf donates 50%.

I'm a fan of Nicaragua so this isn't ment to be a negative statement, but it would be a waste to spend $20 million on a football stadium in that country. There just isn't enough demand for them to spend that kind of money. As it stands i believe this stadium is being funded partially by FIFA who is putting in $250 thousand or there abouts. The rest will be funded by the Nicaraguan governement as well as the football federation. Then i believe they'll look for sponsers to help pay the rest. So in all i doubt this stadium will end up costing more than $1 million. And with that, it should still be more than enough to make it the best stadium in the country; and a good enough stadium to hold international tournaments (club and country).

[It's called FOOTBALL]

It is sad that R. Esteli didn't get to play in this year's Concachampions. But oh well.

The Mexican teams should've gotten byes to the group stage, instead of other leagues getting more slots. CCL qualification thru Mexico is harder than any other league. All 4 deserve automatic group stage spots

[el_cuscatleco]

The Mexican teams should've gotten byes to the group stage, instead of other leagues getting more slots. CCL qualification thru Mexico is harder than any other league. All 4 deserve automatic group stage spots

There's plenty of threads that discuss the topic that you've mentioned, this isn't one of them ;)

[coppercanuck]

No, CONCACAF should not put money into these countries, sorry. Football is a business for these clubs and they should put some investment into facilities. The same arguement could be made for the Caribbean region. Of the 30 members only 9 sent reps to the CFU Club championships. Countries like Cuba, Barbados, Jamaica, Grenada and others all rank above Belize on the international stage and did not send teams to qualify for the CCL.

I assume the goal for CONCACAF is to see the CL grow and add teams in other countries, nah who am I kidding, it's a money grab. A TV property they can sell and selling it in Belize or Aruba will not make the money they are looking for. As soon as CONCACRAP can justify 10 teams from Mexico and 10 teams from the USA they will alter the format.