View Full Version : arnesen is general manager.
Joe E
17 May 2004, 08:14 PM
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1219031,00.html
a huge piece of news. first piece in the puzzle of the new era at spurs. views?
The Double
17 May 2004, 08:19 PM
Big news indeed. So with Arnesen being a continental-style general manager, that means we go with the English manager?
Joe E
17 May 2004, 08:20 PM
by the way..i know it's not confirmed but guardian unlimited is usuall very reliable, and they seem pretty sure.
Joe E
17 May 2004, 08:21 PM
Big news indeed. So with Arnesen being a continental-style general manager, that means we go with the English manager?
seems to rule out o'neill, certainly. looks like someone on the hughes mould...really not sure how i feel about it all.
RobB
17 May 2004, 08:24 PM
Is Arnesen a poor mans Arsene?
Joe E
17 May 2004, 08:43 PM
Is Arnesen a poor mans Arsene?
who knows. if he can get us van bommel, that would be a good start. and if he can bring in players of kezman's quality, excellent. he obviously has great experience and has done a great job at PSV. i think we need a really good motivational coach though. i don't want taylor or the like.
The Double
17 May 2004, 08:46 PM
Agree 110 percent, Joe. We need a coach that isn't afraid to shake ******** up.
RobB
17 May 2004, 08:59 PM
who knows. if he can get us van bommel, that would be a good start. and if he can bring in players of kezman's quality, excellent.
Spurs could get Van Bommel if they pay £3m, in fact MvB offered his services to Spurs, so he needs no other encouragement. It would make more sense to sound out the new coach about whether he`ll work with this guy and appoint them together. The only thing that would alter that natural order of things is if the new coach is in charge of a national team at Euro 2004. Someone with little expierience of club management, Santini?
Joe E
17 May 2004, 09:14 PM
Spurs could get Van Bommel if they pay £3m, in fact MvB offered his services to Spurs, so he needs no other encouragement. It would make more sense to sound out the new coach about whether he`ll work with this guy and appoint them together. The only thing that would alter that natural order of things is if the new coach is in charge of a national team at Euro 2004. Someone with little expierience of club management, Santini?
i think it will be someone young. i would be pretty happy about leaving the transfers to this guy, he could get great talent, from holland especially - maybe hofland as well as mvb? he's made great signings for PSV. i've been reading up on him and he has big time respect across euurope. so what we need is purely a motivator and tactician. but if hiddink decided he'd like to team up with arnesen again i wouldn't complain!
Joser
17 May 2004, 09:31 PM
I hate to sound stupid in this situation but whats the difference between a GM and a manager? In american sports you have a GM and a coach, is it similar to that?
Joe E
17 May 2004, 09:37 PM
I hate to sound stupid in this situation but whats the difference between a GM and a manager? In american sports you have a GM and a coach, is it similar to that?
far from stupid.. this is an unusual set up for us in english football too. in england we usually have an all round manager who chooses the signings AND coahces the team..on the continent, they often have a system as you outline above - one picks the first team, coaches and trains, the other deals with the signings, scouting, youth set up..and it seems arnesen it set to take the latter role. if it all goes through, my overall feeling is that it's exciting (arnesen brought through ronaldo, romario, van nistelrooy, kezman,van bommel, etc,etc at psv) but we need a good motivational tactician as the coach.
DigitalTron
17 May 2004, 10:25 PM
Joe, you've made a ton of great comments. I wholeheartedly agree! :D I like the idea of separating it, and I'm actually happy to have this guy, because he sounds fantastic. But, I'm a little uneasy about it, because it surely means we're not bringing in a top manager. To me, it sounds as if Levy's targeted manager has turned him down. I wonder who it was ... MON, Mourinho, Mancini, Trap, Jumhed, or some other great manager?
-Digital
The Double
17 May 2004, 10:29 PM
I wanted to put a bet through willhill regarding the next Spurs coach, but I didn't see jumhed anywhere on the list.
So I'll keep my 5 dollars, thank you very much.
sendorange
18 May 2004, 04:53 AM
The evening standard have earnt their money today, two good articles.
More on Arneson and that Queiroz is in pole position for the head coach role, with Ranieri a possibility and O'Neill now unlikely but not definitively ruled out.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/articles/10803831?source=Evening%20Standard
Trapp speaks on us, says he discussed the job and is very keen, but his wife is reluctant in the extreme. Sounds a great bloke though, "he reminds you disconcertingly of Lloyd Bridges in Airplane mode".
http://www.thisislondon.com/sport/football/articles/10804148
Joe E
18 May 2004, 10:58 AM
now that the arnesen thing has come up, i would be happier about queiroz or ranieri, who i was a bit sceptical about before.. i think a team like that would be a god result.it seems less risky whoever we hire now, just because they will devolve a lot of responsibility and we won't have a crazy ardiles type going nuts and doing whatever they like. arnesen doesn't seem like the type to preside over chaos. the most important thing is that he would surely be able to get us the players we need. trap does sound hilarious, but that hilarity would soon wear off if he struggled (ardiles or gross were pretty funny too!) and you have to say that if his wife was really that unhappy, it might be damaging to his work. the last thing we need is another managerial change any time soon.
The evening standard have earnt their money today, two good articles.
More on Arneson and that Queiroz is in pole position for the head coach role, with Ranieri a possibility and O'Neill now unlikely but not definitively ruled out.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/articles/10803831?source=Evening%20Standard
Trapp speaks on us, says he discussed the job and is very keen, but his wife is reluctant in the extreme. Sounds a great bloke though, "he reminds you disconcertingly of Lloyd Bridges in Airplane mode".
http://www.thisislondon.com/sport/football/articles/10804148
KanKeano's DefPosts
18 May 2004, 02:47 PM
I think Frank Arnesen would be a good signing for Tottenham as long as the manager we get has the same plans. He's done a lot of good with PSV and Bobby Robson, at an awards dinner last night, credited him with finding Van Nistlerooy and Ronaldo. From what I can see nobody has a bad word to say about him.
Joe E
18 May 2004, 05:09 PM
he signs!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/3726435.stm
Joe E
18 May 2004, 05:22 PM
he signs!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/3726435.stm
well, we were all curious as to why we'd signed robinson with no manager - the fact that we'd been talking to him for 10 days i think makes it obvious who gave the nod to the signing. this also shows once and for all that we can totally disregard all press specualtion - they had absolutley no idea about this. levy has embarassed them once again. coach next! that's the big one..let's hope they don't screw it up.and if this is anything to go by, i have a feeling we might be in for a pleasant surprise. getting excited about next season already :)
jumhed
18 May 2004, 06:21 PM
well, we were all curious as to why we'd signed robinson with no manager - the fact that we'd been talking to him for 10 days i think makes it obvious who gave the nod to the signing. this also shows once and for all that we can totally disregard all press specualtion - they had absolutley no idea about this. levy has embarassed them once again. coach next! that's the big one..let's hope they don't screw it up.and if this is anything to go by, i have a feeling we might be in for a pleasant surprise. getting excited about next season already :)
So Levy isn't quite as gormless as he looks!? Now he'll ruin it by appointing Peter Taylor.
I'm a cynic. It goes hand-in-hand with being a Spurs fan.
Interesting fact; Arneson was playing for Anderlecht when we spanked them in the UEFA Cup Final in 1984.
The Standard article also pointed to Trap's 'volatile temper.' Not coming to Spurs will pro-long his life. He'd be an enraged madman if he ever set foot here, watching Deano and Gardner helping out the opposition, seeing half the squad in the physio's room etc. His heart at his age (65), would go into meltdown!
jumhed
18 May 2004, 06:23 PM
And another thing, it turns out that David Bleat (yes, that one), has been interviewing Arnesen for the job! Since when have outgoing mentalist's interviewed their own replacements? What the boobie's is going on?
Also, go to the front page of www.spurs.co.uk
Doesn't Paul Robinson look delighted he's at Spurs? :D