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Ikari
09 May 2004, 08:28 PM
Ok, since it's become painfully obvious that I'm not going to scrape myself out of relegation to 6th division, I figure it's high time to perform a major shakeup of the team.

http://www9.hattrick.org/Common/teamDetails.asp?UserID=1162569

As it stands I'll probably have to can most of the staff except for one or two training coaches, kill all funding for the youth squad, possibly give a few players the pink slip, and hope for better times next season.

Fun! :)

ur_land
10 May 2004, 12:37 PM
you sure you want to kill all of your funding for the youth team? Youth squad ratings go down very fast and take a lot longer to get better.

Helghallen
10 May 2004, 03:21 PM
I have been mulling this over since you originally posted your thread. Not sure if you were asking for advice, but....

You don't seem to have bought or sold any players. Not sure if that is a glitch or if it is accurate.

You have a great coach for training purposes. I wish had done as wisely in this regard.

You have expanded your arena. Excellent move.

Relegation is not a bad thing. I have done it and I think my team is better off for it. Starting in series V is not easy. Don't let it get you down when you drop.

Do not drop your youth squad investment.

I would sell off/fire those people on your squad that don't fit into your current needs and find some young trainees (17,18) in whatever skill you want to train. If your economic situation is pretty bad, perhaps starting with keeper training would be wise. It will give you tactical flexibility and has a lower startup cost. And you should see a quicker return on your investment.

Good luck

Footer Phooter
10 May 2004, 03:45 PM
You'll probably get more people into the seats in a lower division. That should more than offset any loss of sponsorship $$ (maybe not immediately). I don't think you should cut your costs that dramatically. Remember it costs money to fire staff as well.

Ikari
10 May 2004, 08:00 PM
Well my biggest thing right now is I bleed a little over 13 grand every week that I don't play a game at home. I make up for the bleeding after a home game, but I'm not going to be able to build up a warchest if I don't make some cuts. :)
Thanks for the idea on selling/firing players instead of staff. If I can reduce my overhead by at least 25-50% I think I'll be in better shape moving into division 6.

Helghallen
10 May 2004, 08:25 PM
Well my biggest thing right now is I bleed a little over 13 grand every week that I don't play a game at home. I make up for the bleeding after a home game, but I'm not going to be able to build up a warchest if I don't make some cuts. :)
Thanks for the idea on selling/firing players instead of staff. If I can reduce my overhead by at least 25-50% I think I'll be in better shape moving into division 6.

How well do you do on attendance? If you are running even every two weeks that is what you want in the beginning. You'll find that training and then selling players will be more profitable. If you want to accumulate a warchest for relegation, do what I have been doing. Buy 18-19 yo players (inad or passable) and then train them to solid. Sell and repeat. I have been buying passables for about 20K and inadequates for less than 10K. A solid PM will sell for about 100K or more depending on secondaries. That is 80-90K profit per player. Repeating this will give you quite a bit of money. From what I understand, goalies are even better, although they cost more to buy in the beginning.

Additionally, some of your players could be worth quite a bit as well. I didn't really see any "young" players. Figure out what you want to train and sell off any players that fit your training regimen. Fire any players with a primary skill of weak or less. Sell players with a primary skill of passable and higher.

I hope this helps.

Craig P
11 May 2004, 01:36 AM
Goalies can net you about $50k for a week of training if you can get a high passable for around $100k, train a week to solid, then sell for around $170k. Beyond that, I'd also recommend training to higher skill levels as soon as you can afford it -- the big bucks start rolling in above formidable, until then you aren't maximizing your return per week of training.

I agree, though, that your first concern should be that you're breaking even biweekly or turning a small profit; although teams can make decent money on attendance, training will still make the majority of profits.