No sign of an end to Tottenham's big sleep

[sendorange]

Good article this in the independent. It's a depressing time, if the people in charge don't have a clue and don't care, then why should we?? We really need a messiah, a genuine one and not just a former legend (bless him) with a hard-on for faith healers.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/comment/story.jsp?story=519183

[Winston Smith]

Good article this in the independent. It's a depressing time, if the people in charge don't have a clue and don't care, then why should we?? We really need a messiah, a genuine one and not just a former legend (bless him) with a hard-on for faith healers.

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/comment/story.jsp?story=519183

Christ. At least we're being described as a sleeping giant. We're only one decent manager away from success, and we're still looking strong for O'Neill or Trappatoni. There's also the fact that despite Levy's amatuerishness, he's probably getting rid of Pleat in the summer.

I do believe despite this season, that Spurs are showing maturity and professionalism and not going for knee jerk appointments anymore. This can only be a good thing. Next season could be the turning point, even without any major player acquisitions.

Thank god we're not Leeds...

[afgrijselijkheid]

Next season could be the turning point, even without any major player acquisitions


i know sendorange will think me trolling, but i have to ask you winston: really? you dont think spurs could use some midfield bite and creativity?

[Winston Smith]

i know sendorange will think me trolling, but i have to ask you winston: really? you dont think spurs could use some midfield bite and creativity?

Of course they could. But in light of what's happened at Monaco, Porto, Celtic, even Aston Villa and Charlton, it's clear that the right manager can overcome this.

The current side is unmotivated and to a certain extent leaderless, but there are established good players (Keane and Defoe for starters) who consistently play well and with the right man in charge we may see another side to the rest of the squad.

A good manager willing to put in the effort is what Spurs desperately need at the moment. The players can come later.

[afgrijselijkheid]

Of course they could. But in light of what's happened at Monaco, Porto, Celtic, even Aston Villa and Charlton, it's clear that the right manager can overcome this.

The current side is unmotivated and to a certain extent leaderless, but there are established good players (Keane and Defoe for starters) who consistently play well and with the right man in charge we may see another side to the rest of the squad.

A good manager willing to put in the effort is what Spurs desperately need at the moment. The players can come later.

i see your point but i think they desperately need at least one 'lead by example' type in the midfield that can help the transition game

[DigitalTron]

Sorry to but in, but I think that a good manager can get the existing players to play closer to their potential. If Spurs do that, we'll be challenging for Europe despite lacking in several departments. You cannot tell me that Southhampton, Birmingham, Middlesborough, etc has a better roster than Spurs. That being said, yes, we need a Dmid, left midfielder, central defender and left back. We could also use a bit more creativity in central midfield, but that need is not as pressing IMHO.


-Digital

[afgrijselijkheid]

Sorry to but in, but I think that a good manager can get the existing players to play closer to their potential. If Spurs do that, we'll be challenging for Europe despite lacking in several departments. You cannot tell me that Southhampton, Birmingham, Middlesborough, etc has a better roster than Spurs. That being said, yes, we need a Dmid, left midfielder, central defender and left back. We could also use a bit more creativity in central midfield, but that need is not as pressing IMHO.


-Digital


i just think it would be a waste to have several excellent strikers and no consistent supply line

i gotta hand it to you guys though - your incredibly optimistic after what had to be a disappointing season

[billyireland]

It's a shame Chelski got Parker, I think buying him for 10mn w/ Reid for 5 would have been good value in the long run & he would have got permanent starting time. The querstion is if he would have signed or not... ho well. I still say get Reid, he is definitely worth it (and can play well in the centre ala Beckham if needed to, for creativity purposes). That said, his main & best position is the left wing.

[DigitalTron]

I don't know enough about Reid, but I hear he's a good prospect. The problem is that his asking price seems to be phenomenally high, and I just cannot fathom paying that much unless he's an instant star along the lines of Duff or Kewell. I'm very high on James Milner of Leeds though, and I hope we do actually bring him to the Lane. I think we could start him wide left if the forward ranks is too thick next year. Milner is still learning, so that is a concern. Also, I think Convey would be an excellent left wing, and he's a lot less expensive than Reid or probably Milner either. -Digital

[billyireland]

Andy Reid has a bagful of assists (15-20, iirc) as well as 18 goals, I think, this season for a highly underachieving Nottingham Forrest... it'so nyl Div. 1, but for a player who is only 21 or 22, and gave a sterling performance vs. the Brazilian a few months back, plus the fact he should get on with & mesh well with the likes of Carr, Kelly, Doc & Robbie very well, should in my opinion, put him ahead of the chasing pack. And doesn't Milner prefer the right to the left?

[Danners9]

Chairman has promised a big shake up, and Pleat refused to answer questions about his future on saturday.

[afgrijselijkheid]

dhorasoo would have been the perfect signing for spurs, but when milan called him he wasnt going to hear anybody else's pitch

[sendorange]

Andy Reid has a bagful of assists (15-20, iirc) as well as 18 goals, I think, this season for a highly underachieving Nottingham Forrest... it'so nyl Div. 1, but for a player who is only 21 or 22, and gave a sterling performance vs. the Brazilian a few months back, plus the fact he should get on with & mesh well with the likes of Carr, Kelly, Doc & Robbie very well, should in my opinion, put him ahead of the chasing pack. And doesn't Milner prefer the right to the left?
Andy Reid is talented and I'm confident would do well, much better than the other Reid at Blackburn who came up from Div 1 for a big fee but has had a bit of a shocker. However there's no doubt that he's overpriced by Notts Forest right now. They apparently turned down a bid from the club in January of 5.5 million + Rohan Ricketts, which was far too much to offer anyway. Even now after being safe from relegation they're still talking 7 million+, which would be ridiculous for someone who has not played a minute of top flight club football, and for all his talent and very good play this season, only a year or two ago was known for being a bit tubby and lazy.

I reckon 3.5 million with another 1 million of bonuses for Goals/Appearences would be a fair deal. I severely doubt though that Forest would go for that, so the club will probably be looking at the continent, unless they go crazy, which I wouldn't rule out after this season.

I don't see Milner as an either/or for Reid, I imagine the club are keen on them both if they can afford it. Milner's played a lot on the left for Leeds this season, but he is stronger on his right foot and is at his best playing through the middle (although right now he's not physically strong enough to do that in the Premiership).

I suppose we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[Danners9]

So glad my new house will have digital tv, that means although i will be all the way up in a different country (no longer in my home town :() i can watch Sky Sports News all day :)

[DigitalTron]

Milner's played a lot on the left for Leeds this season, but he is stronger on his right foot and is at his best playing through the middle (although right now he's not physically strong enough to do that in the Premiership).

I suppose we'll just have to wait and see what happens. I agree with that, and I can definitely see him playing withdrawn forward in the future (or attacking central midfielder), but with Spurs atrocious central midfield defense, and a good Simon Davies on the right, I think left midfield is a good spot for Milner now. Our team is stacked at forward, and despite Milner's height, he's just not strong enough yet to play the target forward, and I don't think it would suit his skill set either. But he's going to be very good I think, and I'd love to see him at the Lane.

-Digital

[comme]

Joe Kinnear was talking about somewhere between 10-15m for Reid the other day and to be honest he has to be taking the piss. 5m would be too much for a completely unproven player.

We need a d-mid and left back, those are the pressing concerns. If we get them and a good manager the sky is the limit.

[Joe E]

Joe Kinnear was talking about somewhere between 10-15m for Reid the other day and to be honest he has to be taking the piss. 5m would be too much for a completely unproven player.

We need a d-mid and left back, those are the pressing concerns. If we get them and a good manager the sky is the limit.

i think we need more than one new midfielder. who would you really want to start the first game of next season except for davies? i say a new left midfielder is a must, aswell as TWO new central midfielders - one defensive and one creative. AND a LB, AND robinson. 5 new players in all. my ideals would be milner, konchesky (yes, i rate him), robinson, van bommel (though apparently that's not happening now) and if not reid, a player in that mould.

[DigitalTron]

i think we need more than one new midfielder. who would you really want to start the first game of next season except for davies? i say a new left midfielder is a must, aswell as TWO new central midfielders - one defensive and one creative. AND a LB, AND robinson. 5 new players in all. my ideals would be milner, konchesky (yes, i rate him), robinson, van bommel (though apparently that's not happening now) and if not reid, a player in that mould.Agreed. I'd suggest:
1. Van Bommel (Dmid)
2. Veteran Organizing Center Back, or Hofland, Van Buyten (Center Back)
3. Convey (Left Mid)
4. Konchesky (Left Back)
5. Milner (attacking places)

Those are the ones I think would help the most. Depending upon whether Kanoute and/or Postiga move in the offseason, we may need a target forward as well.

-Digital

[soccernutter]

If Convey is still available, by the time our year comes around, I'll be amazed.

[comme]

Sorry I took Robinson as a given, we definitely need him.

My signings would be Van Bommel, Lizerazu, Robinson, Diego and Milner. Postiga to be sold, even though I like him and rate him highly.