Predict Portland 2011 average attendance

[pc4th]

Some facts that will help you to give your best guesstimate.

http://www.gregs-mom.com/USLAttendance.htm
Averaging 7,783 this year in USL 1.

With 2 weeks notice, ~16,200 was sold out for the US Open Cup match with Seattle (could have sold more with bigger capacity).

Timbers Army provides awesome supporter atmosphere that probably will help attract and retain more fans. Probably one of the best 3 in MLS when they join in term of supporter atmosphere.

PGE Park will undergo $31 mil renovation/upgrade to MLS configuration with capacity of about 22-25k (no official words yet on capacity).

Seattle metro pop: 3,344,813
Seattle city pop: 602,000

Portland metro pop: 2,207,462
Portland city pop: 575,930

Sports competition for Portland: NBA For Seattle: MLB, NFL

[wishful thinking on my part but it's possible that MLS might vote for a more flexible salary cap structure for 2010 CBA and onward....which would give expansion teams like Philly, Portland, Vancouver, Montreal a chance to do relatively well during their first year provided that these ownership spend money. History tells us that expansion teams generally do badly (Real Salt Lake, Chivas USA, Toronto) in their first, second and sometimes even third year. Seattle do well because of 4 things: great coach, Keller, Montero, DP Freddie. Expansion draft in 2011 might be between 2 or even 3 teams compare to just 1 for Seattle.

What kind of flexible salary structure? $2.5 mil league pay 'soft' cap, $4 mil hard cap....with the owners responsible for the amount over the $2.5 mil or a NBA-style salary cap $2.5 mil salary cap (league pay) with the luxury tax threshold $1 for $1 over starting at $3 mil]

[carella211]

i expect it to look something like this...

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/JillianPrevost/Ryans%20Visit/IMGP7127.jpg

[Utherhimo]

thats what the "royale" bourghanbergham palaceplace aka Qwest will look in three years when the corp scarfs all fall apart and the marching band chokes on the fog machines.

[pc4th]

14,103 for a Thursday night USL-1 game between Portland and PR Islanders on July 23 2009.

MLS Portland will have these advantages over USL Portland:

--$31 mil upgrade/renovation
--soccer configuration (hopefully with grass)
--MLS instead of USL
--better marketing, awareness, image, reputation
--better tv coverage, local media coverage

20,000+ is expected and easily achievable.

[Asprilla9]

it'll be whatever the capacity is. which we don't know. but they've intimated it'll be around 20k.

i think PDX will sell out every league game that first year. i honestly think as it gets closer to 2011 they could sell out the whole 20k capacity (if that is what it will be) in season tickets. but they'll cap those season tix sales at a lower point obviously. due to location it has such a great walk-up potential. i imagine they'll want to keep some of that excitement.

[pc4th]

FYI:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1103718
Predict Vancouver 2011 average attendance
~14,000 or less 3 5.36%
~15,000 0 0%
~16,000 2 3.57%
~17,000 0 0%
~18,000 4 7.14%
~19,000 5 8.93%
~20,000 4 7.14%
~21,000 1 1.79%
~22,000 6 10.71%
~23,000 4 7.14%
~24,000 1 1.79%
~25,000 3 5.36%
~26,000 4 7.14%
26,000 or more 19 33.93%

It looks like many expect Vancouver to outsell Portland.

Vancouver metro pop: 2,318,200
Vancouver city pop: 646,385

Portland metro pop: 2,207,462
Portland city pop: 575,930

[The Marquis]

FYI:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1103718
Predict Vancouver 2011 average attendance
~14,000 or less 3 5.36%
~15,000 0 0%
~16,000 2 3.57%
~17,000 0 0%
~18,000 4 7.14%
~19,000 5 8.93%
~20,000 4 7.14%
~21,000 1 1.79%
~22,000 6 10.71%
~23,000 4 7.14%
~24,000 1 1.79%
~25,000 3 5.36%
~26,000 4 7.14%
26,000 or more 19 33.93%

It looks like many expect Vancouver to outsell Portland.

Vancouver metro pop: 2,318,200
Vancouver city pop: 646,385

Portland metro pop: 2,207,462
Portland city pop: 575,930

Well NO KIDDING!

First, it's most likely that the capacity of PGE will be 22,000. So of course people chose around that for their poll answer. Vancouver will play in a stadium with a likely much larger capacity. It's not even MATH, it's just common sense.

[edwardgr]

thats what the "royale" bourghanbergham palaceplace aka Qwest will look in three years when the corp scarfs all fall apart and the marching band chokes on the fog machines.

Almost but it would have to be turf for that to be Qwest :p.

And by the way welcome to MLS you know you have made it when pc4th starts making polls for you.

[spdavie2]

20,000 ave for 2011. With very little major league competition the attendences should always be healthy. But, as with any team, the people with expect a modicum of success to maintain and swell those numbers beyond 2011.