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FNU
15 Jul 2009, 11:11 PM
I recently started watching some SA football, and I'm looking for a club to follow and maybe even support. I narrowed it down to picking a club from Argentina because I don't have any ties anywhere else. Some relatives live in Mar del Plata is my link. I know they have a Div. B club, and maybe I'll follow them, but it isn't that easy. Any suggestions? thx

aerez
16 Jul 2009, 01:38 AM
Buenos Aires is very complex how fans grow up formulating their interest for their team. There's a 'feeling' that you are either Boca or River. That's not entirely true. Just because you have roots somewhere doesn't mean you should automatically qualify yourself to a club. I recommend following any club that isn't River or Boca.

RacingGirl
16 Jul 2009, 02:52 AM
Welcome to the forum, FNU. Aerez is right, that is why you should root for the mighty Racing Club it has many similarities to Napoli, with it's loyal fans who haven't seen their team win a cup in many years :(

El Mandrake
16 Jul 2009, 06:16 PM
The club choses you!! Patience and a vision, a flag, colors, politics, ect shall lead you to your "final choice".

Black Francis
16 Jul 2009, 08:47 PM
Independiente!!

They have a player named Assmann... nuff said :D

FNU
16 Jul 2009, 10:06 PM
The club choses you!! Patience and a vision, a flag, colors, politics, ect shall lead you to your "final choice".
Ok.

devilman
17 Jul 2009, 12:44 AM
Ok.

1. Racing club
2. Independiente
3. San Lorenzo
4. Velez-Sarsfield
These are "big clubs" of Buenos Aires besides Boca , River.. in Primera Division A

1. Huracan
2. Lanus
3. Argentinos Juniors
4. Banfield
5. Tigre
6. Arsenal
7. Chacarita
These are the smaller clubs of Buenos Aires in Primera Division A


1. Estudiantes
2. Gimnasia y Esgrima
These are the two clubs of La Plata in Primera A

1. Rosario Central
2. Newells Old Boys
These are the two clubs of Rosario in Primera A

1. Godoy Cruz (Mendoza)
2. Atletico Tucuman (Tucuman)
3. Colon (Santa Fe)

Andrés_
17 Jul 2009, 01:43 AM
I recently started watching some SA football, and I'm looking for a club to follow and maybe even support. I narrowed it down to picking a club from Argentina because I don't have any ties anywhere else. Some relatives live in Mar del Plata is my link. I know they have a Div. B club, and maybe I'll follow them, but it isn't that easy. Any suggestions? thx

That club from Mar Del Plata you say is Aldosivi, they had good season on the beginning it looked like they had a very good shot on winning promotion but by the half of the season they began to fall and ended up being close, but still couldn't do it.

1. Racing club
2. Independiente
3. San Lorenzo
4. Velez-Sarsfield
These are "big clubs" of Buenos Aires besides Boca , River.. in Primera Division A

1. Huracan
2. Lanus
3. Argentinos Juniors
4. Banfield
5. Tigre
6. Arsenal
7. Chacarita
These are the smaller clubs of Buenos Aires in Primera Division A


1. Estudiantes
2. Gimnasia y Esgrima
These are the two clubs of La Plata in Primera A

1. Rosario Central
2. Newells Old Boys
These are the two clubs of Rosario in Primera A

1. Godoy Cruz (Mendoza)
2. Atletico Tucuman (Tucuman)
3. Colon (Santa Fe)

In reality from the first division: Boca, River, Argentinos, Huracán, San Lorenzo and Vélez are from the city of Buenos Aires, the others are from the province of Buenos Aires.

Here a list of the clubs from the 1st and 2nd division with their location.

1- Argentinos Juniors, Buenos Aires.
2- Arsenal, Avellaneda(Buenos Aires).
3- Atlético Tucumán, San Miguel de Tucumán(Tucumán).
4- Banfield, Lomas de Zámora(Buenos Aires).
5- Boca Juniors, Buenos Aires.
6- Chacarita Juniors, San Martín(Buenos Aires).
7- Colón, Santa Fe(Santa Fe).
8- Estudiantes LP, La Plata(Buenos Aires).
9- Godoy Cruz, Godoy Cruz(Mendoza).
10- Gimnasia LP, La Plata(Buenos Aires)
11- Huracán, Buenos Aires.
12- Independiente, Avellaneda(Buenos Aires).
13- Lanús, Lanús(Buenos Aires)
14- Newell's Old Boys, Rosario(Santa Fe)
15- Racing Club, Avellaneda(Buenos Aires)
16- River Plate, Buenos Aires.
17- Rosario Central, Rosario(Santa Fe)
18- San Lorenzo, Buenos Aires.
19- Tigre, San Fernando(Buenos Aires)
20- Vélez Sarsfield, Buenos Aires.

In the second division.

1- Aldosivi, Mar Del Plata(Buenos Aires).
2- All Boys, Buenos Aires.
3- Atlético Rafaela, Rafaela(Santa Fe).
4- Belgrano Cba., Cordoba(Cordoba).
5- Boca Unidos, Corrientes(Corrientes).
6- CAI, Comodoro Rivadavia(Chubut).
7- Defensa y Justicia, Florencio Varela(Buenos Aires).
8- Deportivo Merlo, Merlo(Buenos Aires).
9- Ferro Carril Oeste, Buenos Aires.
10- Gimnasia J, San Salvador de Jujuy(Jujuy).
11- Independiente Rivadavia, Mendoza(Mendoza).
12- Instituto, Cordoba(Cordoba).
13- Olimpo, Bahia Blanca(Buenos Aires).
14- Platense, Vicente López(Buenos Aires).
15- Quilmes, Quilmes(Buenos Aires).
16- San Martín SJ, San Juan(San Juan).
17- San Martín T, San Miguel de Tucumán(Tucumán).
18- Sportivo Italiano, Buenos Aires.
19- Tiro Federal, Rosario(Santa Fe).
20- Unión, Santa Fe(Santa Fe).

Other famous clubs.

- Atlanta, Buenos Aires.
- Talleres Cba., Cordoba(Cordoba).
- Gimnasia CDU, Concepción del Uruguay(Entre Rios).
- Social Español, Buenos Aires. -Former "Deportivo Español".
- Gimnasia y Tiro, Salta(Salta).
- Deportivo Morón, Morón(Buenos Aires).
- Los Andes, Lomas de Zámora(Buenos Aires).
- Gimnasia Mza., Mendoza(Mendoza).
- Racing de Cordoba, Cordoba(Cordoba).
- Guillermo Brown, Puerto Madryn(Chubut).
- Chaco For Ever, Resistencia(Chaco).
- Textil Mandiyú, Corrientes(Corrientes). -Former "Deportivo Mandiyú".
- Central Norte, Salta(Salta).
- Alvarado, Mar Del Plata(Buenos Aires). -Aldosivi's arch-rival.
- Nueva Chicago, Buenos Aires.
- Deportivo Madryn, Puerto Madryn(Chubut).
- Almirante Brown, La Matanza(Buenos Aires).

devilman
17 Jul 2009, 01:55 AM
Well i meant from the greater BA metroplex , everyone knows Avellaneda is not in BA proper, but its considered part of the metropolitan area... thats wat i mean... Andres You are such Mod material...... RG can I get Amen??...;)

RacingGirl
17 Jul 2009, 02:14 AM
Well i meant from the greater BA metroplex , everyone knows Avellaneda is not in BA proper, but its considered part of the metropolitan area... thats wat i mean... Andres You are such Mod material...... RG can I get Amen??...;)

Allahu Akbar, brother.

cigar_city
17 Jul 2009, 12:51 PM
I recently started watching some SA football, and I'm looking for a club to follow and maybe even support. I narrowed it down to picking a club from Argentina because I don't have any ties anywhere else. Some relatives live in Mar del Plata is my link. I know they have a Div. B club, and maybe I'll follow them, but it isn't that easy. Any suggestions? thx

Before I wholeheartedly recommend Newell's Old Boys a/k/a "La Lepra" and its "Hinchada que Nunca Abandona", you really have to ask yourself what kind of team you want to root for, and DON'T want to root for.

For example, as a Napoli guy, you are aware of the political and social connections clubs have with the populous in Italy. (Roma, rich city people, Lazio, more rural and politically in tune with fascism; Napoli and the Southern Italian teams vs. the egotistical power base Northern Italian teams; my team in Italia Torino, the team of the city, vs. Jumerdus and their non-Piemontese Fiat factory worker fans/strunzi). All sorts of historical divisions and interests on various levels. You are a fan of the Partenopei, why do you like them as well as other Italian squads, and more importantly, why do you hate certain Italian teams.

All those angles also exist in Argentina. As a general example, look at BA as the Northern Italy, with lots of those fans lfrom the "big" clubs looking down/lumping together teams from "el interior," or interior portion of the country/not BA.

I'm simplifying and perhaps generalizing a bit on that point, just wanted to give you a quick example.

Forget about rooting for teams with Italian roots in their club's initial formation though, as that will only eliminate a few clubs - Like Newell's and Central, formed by an English priest and the British railroad, respectively.

Always been a Napoli rooter, Diego "the player" (distinct from Diego, the sh1t natioanl team DT) of course is the main reason, but Napoli has always given Argentine players their opportunities.

Forza Toro, ritornamo a la A!

FNU
17 Jul 2009, 12:57 PM
What can you guys tell me about Aldosivi besides what wiki has to say about them?

NYC_COSMOS
17 Jul 2009, 02:55 PM
What can you guys tell me about Aldosivi besides what wiki has to say about them?

Forget about what everyone else has to say. If you become an "hincha" de Velez, Ill send you their Italian flag colored jersey, which was done in reference to the huge Italian fan base of Velez back in the day.

This is how it's done in Argentina. Some one you know buys your heart when you are young, they give you a shirt or a ball with the colors of the team.

In following with tradition, I offer you the same token as would someone from your family, at the very least your soccer family.

Aguante el fortin c a r a j o!!!!

FNU - We play Bosta Juniors, I mean Boca Juniors (sorry Moishe lol, devilman lol), on August 5th for the Copa Sudamericana. Until then stay cool.

:D

FNU
17 Jul 2009, 03:20 PM
A pic of this shirt you speak of? Italy support is nice and all, but Napoli is always first.
I'll watch that game. I think I have to watch as many games as possible before I make any decisions. Thanks to all for the input so far.
Why are Boca and River invited every year to the Copa Sud?

locoxriver
17 Jul 2009, 03:58 PM
Why are Boca and River invited every year to the Copa Sud?

It's just a rule that was set-up ever since the Copa Sudamericana was created back in 2002. I guess it was to assure it would have some sort of prestige by having two of the continent's biggest clubs in it? :confused: Regardless, this is the last year it will be in effect: starting in 2010, there will be no "invited" guests.

threervana
17 Jul 2009, 05:16 PM
As a Napoli fan, I think you COULD AND SHOULD support the club that created Diego Maradona which is Argentinos:D

Or Boca Juniors which was his home before he became the NT coach:)

cigar_city
17 Jul 2009, 06:29 PM
Andres:
Tremendous breakdown of division, team and location. And i thought that Diablo Rojo fans couldn't read!
:D

cigar_city
17 Jul 2009, 06:31 PM
As a Napoli fan, I think you COULD AND SHOULD support the club that created Diego Maradona which is Argentinos:D

Or Boca Juniors which was his home before he became the NT coach:)

He also played at Newell's for a year, but you'd never know he played anywhere except Boca.

The first time I ever saw him play was during his Argentinos Juniors days, when the played at Newell's.

FNU
17 Jul 2009, 08:20 PM
He played for NOB after Napoli, I remember that.

argentine soccer fan
18 Jul 2009, 06:00 AM
Why are Boca and River invited every year to the Copa Sud?

Several previous attempts at establishing a cup to compliment Copa Libertadores had failed. So, I guess the organizers of Sudamericana wanted to give their project a better chance to succeed, and they wanted to make sure that the two most popular Argentine clubs participated. Not exactly fair, but smart from a pragmatic point of view. And now the Sudamericana has survived long enough to where now they feel confident of its survival and will stop inviting them.