Training Question(s)

[PezJunkie]

Is it possible for a player to improve in a skill that you're not currently training?

Is training stamina the only way to improve stamina? I hate to run my form into the ground, but I've got quite a few guys who need stamina. Since I've already got relegation locked-up, should I just bite the bullet and train stamina these last few weeks of the season?

[Helghallen]

Is it possible for a player to improve in a skill that you're not currently training?

No, unfortunately.

Is training stamina the only way to improve stamina? I hate to run my form into the ground, but I've got quite a few guys who need stamina. Since I've already got relegation locked-up, should I just bite the bullet and train stamina these last few weeks of the season?

Much depends on what you are training and how many trainees you have. If you have young trainees, then train their primary skill to take advantage of their faster training. Save stamina for the off season when you only have one game a week and can't get all your trainees into the game.

[AAGunner3]

Save stamina for the off season when you only have one game a week and can't get all your trainees into the game.

ANd maybe even buy up a number of decent middies who need stamina training to be resold after the stamina training is complete. You can train as many as you can hire. Might make up for the busted form.

[kopiteinkc]

Is it possible for a player to improve in a skill that you're not currently training?

Is training stamina the only way to improve stamina? I hate to run my form into the ground, but I've got quite a few guys who need stamina. Since I've already got relegation locked-up, should I just bite the bullet and train stamina these last few weeks of the season?

Usually the norm is to train stamina in the off season, but in your case with such a new team and heading for relegation anyway, it might not hurt to get a couple of weeks of stamina training in now.

Have you decided on what skill you will be training in? What primary skills do your youngest players have?

[Craig P]

Is it possible for a player to improve in a skill that you're not currently training?Not really. The only (somewhat) exception is general training -- it primarily acts to speed form increases and slow form decreases, but it also provides a little bit of keeper training (and possibly a little training in other skills). I got lucky and had a keeper pop from inadequate to passable (and he was 26, too old for me to have trained) when I was stupid and trained general for two or three weeks after I got my team.

(Don't ever actually train general, I'm just using it as an example.)

[ur_land]

If you are training playmaking and still want to try to get stamina up a little during the off season, you can try this stratey: for every two weeks of playmaking, train one week of stamina. This will delay your trainig pops by 3-4 weeks, but it will also have the effect of gradually increasing your team's stamina so you won't get steamrolled next season. A player with wretched or weak stamina is not going to get where you need him to be just by training stamina in the off season.

[PezJunkie]

Another training question regarding formations. I understand that you have to use one of the "standard" formations or you risk confusion and not getting any training from the match. Is it possible to use an abnormal configuration of one of the standard formations and still get the training benefits?

For example: with some creative repositioning you can have a 3-5-2 with 5 IM's and no wingers. Since Wingers only get 1/2 the playmaking training, this seems like a better way to train.

Since it's a "standard" formation, will the guys still get trained - even though it's a strange version of a 3-5-2? The Hattrick rules seem to imply that only really odd formations will cause you to lose training.

[Helghallen]

Another training question regarding formations. I understand that you have to use one of the "standard" formations or you risk confusion and not getting any training from the match. Is it possible to use an abnormal configuration of one of the standard formations and still get the training benefits?

For example: with some creative repositioning you can have a 3-5-2 with 5 IM's and no wingers. Since Wingers only get 1/2 the playmaking training, this seems like a better way to train.

Since it's a "standard" formation, will the guys still get trained - even though it's a strange version of a 3-5-2? The Hattrick rules seem to imply that only really odd formations will cause you to lose training.

You can go with a non-standard configuration and still get training. It is when you have more than 3 CDs/IMs/strikers that you lose training.

[kopiteinkc]

Another training question regarding formations. I understand that you have to use one of the "standard" formations or you risk confusion and not getting any training from the match. Is it possible to use an abnormal configuration of one of the standard formations and still get the training benefits?

For example: with some creative repositioning you can have a 3-5-2 with 5 IM's and no wingers. Since Wingers only get 1/2 the playmaking training, this seems like a better way to train.

Since it's a "standard" formation, will the guys still get trained - even though it's a strange version of a 3-5-2? The Hattrick rules seem to imply that only really odd formations will cause you to lose training.

You will notice when setting orders for wingers that you have the option to "play towards the middle". This is not the same as an extra inner midfield player. He just gravitates that way I guess!

The player will get training as if he were playing winger (1/2 PM in your case). By playing him towards the middle this will boost your midfield rating but conversly affects your attacking down the wings and cuts your number of chances. However extra possession in the midfield may boost chances.

[PezJunkie]

You will notice when setting orders for wingers that you have the option to "play towards the middle". This is not the same as an extra inner midfield player. He just gravitates that way I guess!


No... you have to be more creative than that. If you make your wings play central D, you can make your central defenders IM's along with a wing back. Thus 5 IM's, 0 Wings.

Here's what the rules say: "this risk only occurs when you have at least 2 players more than the default in one part of the team, like 6 defenders or 4 forwards."

The way Chris read that, Inner Mids count as "one part of the team" and having 5 would cause problems.
The way I read it was that all midfielders (not just Inner) were "one part" and so 5 is a totally normal amount of midfielders.

[kopiteinkc]

No... you have to be more creative than that. If you make your wings play central D, you can make your central defenders IM's along with a wing back. Thus 5 IM's, 0 Wings.

If you do this, I am certain you will lose training for the week.

[Craig P]

There is one rule regarding formations and training: If you have more than one extra player at any position (CD, IM, forward), you will lose training for the week. Playing someone "toward" doesn't actually change their position, only the players played as "extra" can get you into this kind of trouble.

There is also a completely separate issue with formations, formation experience. There is a list of formations in which you can build formation experience, and if the combination of your team experience and formation experience is high enough, you won't experience confusion during a match. This functions completely separately from the rule about formations that cost you training. There are at least two formations that you can play that will not cost you training (in and of themselves, you can still play them in a way that will cost you training), but that you cannot build formation experience in: 2-5-3 and 5-5-0. Unless your experience is really good, you will always have confusion playing one of these formations, but unless you use 4+ CD's, IM's, or forwards, neither will cost you training.

[junjunforever]

There is one rule regarding formations and training: If you have more than one extra player at any position (CD, IM, forward), you will lose training for the week. Playing someone "toward" doesn't actually change their position, only the players played as "extra" can get you into this kind of trouble.

There is also a completely separate issue with formations, formation experience. There is a list of formations in which you can build formation experience, and if the combination of your team experience and formation experience is high enough, you won't experience confusion during a match. This functions completely separately from the rule about formations that cost you training. There are at least two formations that you can play that will not cost you training (in and of themselves, you can still play them in a way that will cost you training), but that you cannot build formation experience in: 2-5-3 and 5-5-0. Unless your experience is really good, you will always have confusion playing one of these formations, but unless you use 4+ CD's, IM's, or forwards, neither will cost you training.


are u sure u get trained with 5-5-0?

[Craig P]

Absolutely, as long as you play it WB-CD-CD-WB / W-IM-IM-W / XIM-XCD.