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ForeverRed
12 Jul 2009, 02:11 PM
Alright gentlemen, continue your Ribery panic here.
Creative title suggestions will be accepted.
Kyles9
12 Jul 2009, 02:22 PM
I'm the 1st person to post after FR. :eek:
What do I win? ;)
Klask
12 Jul 2009, 02:56 PM
I'm the 1st person to post after FR. :eek:
What do I win? ;)
A t-shirt saying "I love Sandro Wagner" and a free lecture by Zinaldo on Ribery, economics and the future of the galacticos.
:p
BayernWake
12 Jul 2009, 03:50 PM
Creative title suggestions will be accepted.
The Bayern Transfer Thread Vol. XXII
-Looking for a Left-Footed CB
-We Don't Need Your Damned Money
-I Belong To Lucio
-400% Lucio
-Dear MLS, have you heard of Christian Lell?
Kyles9
12 Jul 2009, 03:58 PM
The Bayern Transfer Thread Vol. XXII
-Looking for a Left-Footed CB
-We Don't Need Your Damned Money
-I Belong To Lucio
-400% Lucio
-Dear MLS, have you heard of Christian Lell?
Lmao. 1 vote for the Lell title!
Kyles9
12 Jul 2009, 04:00 PM
A t-shirt saying "I love Sandro Wagner" and a free lecture by Zinaldo on Ribery, economics and the future of the galacticos.
:p
Sounds great and all but can I see what's behind door number 2? xD
humin12
12 Jul 2009, 04:42 PM
How about " Who needs Fronck when we've got Zinaldo?"
terrypk1
12 Jul 2009, 04:57 PM
The Bayern Transfer Thread Vol. XXII
-Looking for a Left-Footed CB
-We Don't Need Your Damned Money
-I Belong To Lucio
-400% Lucio
-Dear MLS, have you heard of Christian Lell?
another vote lell. HE NEEDS TO GO.
FCBerken
12 Jul 2009, 05:13 PM
With all this Ribery news, I looked around and this is pretty much my understanding:
Using article 17, Ribery could theoretically force his way out of his contract next summer for a fee of about 5 million (the remaining salary on his contract).
Thats the reason why newspapers are now speculating that Bayern are forced to make a move, because this summer is the last opportunity to get a substantial transfer fee.
However, the members of the European Club Association, which contains 153 clubs, have agreed to not make use of this article. While the FIFA transfer regulations are usually the fundament of player contracts, article 17 however is usually excluded.
From what I read, FIFA is going to revise/reword article 17 in favour of the clubs, not players, but that has not happened yet.
I think this gives a fairly good overview:
http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_128370.html
Also, I have not heard or read anything about Ribery saying anything about this, so to me it just sounds like pure speculation with nothing substantial behind it. There is no way this really changes anything this summer. If anything it might have some effects next summer, but I have my doubts about that.
KingPrawn
12 Jul 2009, 05:33 PM
Last summer ex-gunner Hleb told arsenal boss he would bought out contract if Wenger reject to talk to Barcelona. Such arsenal boss Wenger was forced to talk to barcelona and sell Hleb around 15M.
So the threat is real if Ribery have the cheek to say he desperately want to leave Munchen.
ForeverRed
12 Jul 2009, 06:15 PM
It is what it is, thats simply the nature of football transfers nowadays. All management can do now is try and extend his contract or sell cheap in the future.
goindownsouth
12 Jul 2009, 06:48 PM
It is what it is, thats simply the nature of football transfers nowadays. All management can do now is try and extend his contract or sell cheap in the future.
You forgot one crucial element... WIN.
Winning, in my opinion, cures a lot of things. Not everything, but still.
FCBerken
12 Jul 2009, 09:44 PM
One thing that really bugs me is that many people, especially the media, make all these assumptions about this potential transfer. I know thats to be expected, but it still annoys me. For example, I don't think Ribery said anything since his "Its Real or nothing" statement, yet there are articles out there in German that say "Ribery to dissolve contract in court to leave Bayern", etc... Even though he did not say one thing like that or even anything that could lead to such an idea.
To me, at least when he is asked by the German media, he sounds fairly diplomatic. Obviously he isn't committing to Bayern, but he never said he wants to leave at all costs (at least not yet), and he doesn't pull the kinda crap that Lucio did the last couple weeks. He has kept his mouth shut more than he has fueled the debate by publicly making a big stink.
I think that if/when its confirmed that he will stay another season, he will still be an important player for us. Even though he would prefer leaving, I don't think he sees staying another year at Bayern as the end of the world.
zinaldo redded
12 Jul 2009, 10:13 PM
Damn this kinda rules are really killing me, so what are you going to do now, i don't know if ribery could really be allowed to leave for 5m euros, i know wich one i would rather take, 55m euros but like someone said if ribery does extend his contract it is all sweet again.
I truly doubt ribery is the kind to buy himself out of a contract,unless you really don't perform well this year and still don't want to let him leave then i could see this happening.
But who in their right mind could ever do such a rule that player can do this things,eh i am happy that maybe frank might be coming but i also feel that you might be forced to let go even though you clearly don't want to do so.
The only thing is i'm not too sure if florentino really thinks ribery is worth spending 50 to 60m euros on but he is only doing it to appease zidane.
SuperJville
12 Jul 2009, 10:52 PM
Damn this kinda rules are really killing me, so what are you going to do now, i don't know if ribery could really be allowed to leave for 5m euros, i know wich one i would rather take, 55m euros but like someone said if ribery does extend his contract it is all sweet again.
I truly doubt ribery is the kind to buy himself out of a contract,unless you really don't perform well this year and still don't want to let him leave then i could see this happening.
But who in their right mind could ever do such a rule that player can do this things,eh i am happy that maybe frank might be coming but i also feel that you might be forced to let go even though you clearly don't want to do so.
The only thing is i'm not too sure if florentino really thinks ribery is worth spending 50 to 60m euros on but he is only doing it to appease zidane.
if CR7 is worth however much you paid, then Ribery is damn sure worth at least 60m.
cwcoach18
12 Jul 2009, 11:01 PM
Here is a link to an updated Article 17 from FIFA. It is or will go into effect sometime in 2009.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/66/98/97/statusandtransfer%5fen%5f2505.pdf
Since there has been so much talk about it I thought of looking it up. I personally think it's a scare tactic employed to force clubs to sell. Real Madrid did the same with Ronaldo last year to no avail.
The more Real Madrid fishes around the more the make everybody hate their business practices. They have no class whatsoever and it does not matter how many trophies they have won in the past. You can not buy class and they really need it.
What I found was interesting when I read Article 17 were part 4 & 5 of such article.
4. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall be imposed on any club found to be in breach of contract or found to be inducing a breach of contract during the protected period. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any club signing a professional who has terminated his contract without just cause has induced that professional to commit a breach. The club shall be banned from registering any new players, either nationally or internationally, for two registration periods.
5. Any person subject to the FIFA Statutes and regulations (club officials,
players’ agents, players, etc.) who acts in a manner designed to induce a breach of contract between a professional and a club in order to facilitate the transfer of the player shall be sanctioned
Mandragola
13 Jul 2009, 02:28 AM
Do they ever define "just cause"?
Also, I just kinda looked over them and the rules do ensure that the player and new club would pay the buyout...if he wanted out.
Have we even really heard anything implying that this is really an option being considered by Ribery?
ForeverRed
13 Jul 2009, 02:36 AM
You forgot one crucial element... WIN.
Winning, in my opinion, cures a lot of things. Not everything, but still.
You're right, winning is a given of course and it could be very useful in this case
schwas
13 Jul 2009, 02:49 AM
The Bayern Transfer Thread Vol. XXII
"Its not all about Frenchy and Drama boy".
Duncan Idaho
13 Jul 2009, 04:39 AM
What's all the fuss about? Do you really think that either Real Madrid or Ribery could use this passus without getting damaged? Why didn't they use it for C.Ron then? Moreover do you really think that if a trigger is pulled in such a way that Bayern stands idly by or is unable to take some precautionary measures? Problem here is that 99,9% don't know what they are talking about when it comes to this article. For instance if the article is used by a player the compensation as implied by main stream media is "not fixed" by the amount of outstanding salary. If you can read german, here is the deal
http://www.faz.net/s/RubFB1F9CD53135470AA600A7D04B278528/Doc~ED619E40AFB2649168E140DDBE2206FBC~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html