View Full Version : Metal Battle Royal: Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax & Slayer
nicodemus
02 May 2004, 02:58 PM
A Battle Royal seems the only way to sort out the kings of metal.
Who's it gonna be?
Alex_K
02 May 2004, 05:09 PM
Of the above Slayer with Megadeth as a close second, although none of them deserve to be called "Kings of Metal".
MikeLastort2
02 May 2004, 05:11 PM
Motörhead
:)
Actually, I had to choose Anthrax due to their collaboration with Public Enemy.
nicodemus
02 May 2004, 05:12 PM
I was thinking mainly of the Clash of the Titans tour that occurred in the early 90s and featured all of the above except Metallica.
nicodemus
02 May 2004, 05:20 PM
Maybe I should've made it Kings of American metal.
Alex_K
02 May 2004, 05:36 PM
If i had to choose someone for this title my choice would be Dio. He didn't sell out (like those 4 bands) and still rocks, although he is in his mid or late sixties (i am not sure how old he is exactly). That deserves credit.
But of course the obvious answer should be:
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nicodemus
02 May 2004, 05:38 PM
Dio is the biggest cheeseball in the world.
What did Anthrax and Slayer do to sell out? Well, Slayer's always been kind of cheesy, but I can see saying that about Metallica and Megadeth easily.
MikeLastort2
02 May 2004, 05:45 PM
I can't stand Dio. After Ozzy was replaced by Dio, Sabbath was completely unlistenable.
Alex_K
02 May 2004, 06:11 PM
Dio is the biggest cheeseball in the world.
What did Anthrax and Slayer do to sell out? Well, Slayer's always been kind of cheesy, but I can see saying that about Metallica and Megadeth easily.
Being cheesy isn't neccesarily bad to me (although i get the impression that the word is mostly used in a negative way, but i don't know a better English word) - actually i can't stand bands who claim that they want to avoid beeing cheesy.
As for Slayer and Anthrax: both jumped on the "Nu metal" trend to some degree. They are still metal, but much more radio friendly (in a Slipknot kind of way) than in the 80s. And Slayer even have their own freakin' shoe line now !
I can't stand Dio. After Ozzy was replaced by Dio, Sabbath was completely unlistenable.
To each his own and all, but i strongly disagree here. After Ozzy left Sabbath produced some amazing metal masterpieces. The Sign of the Southern Cross, for example, is a perfect song on every level.
MikeLastort2
02 May 2004, 06:19 PM
To each his own and all, but i strongly disagree here. After Ozzy left Sabbath produced some amazing metal masterpieces. The Sign of the Southern Cross, for example, is a perfect song on every level.
I'll have to check that one out. I never liked Sabbath much after Ozzy left, but then again when I listened to them back in the late 70s/early 80s, I was pretty young. And I wanted to be Ironman. :)
minorthreat
02 May 2004, 09:14 PM
I think Metallica's influence, for better or for worse, is far stronger in the general rock world than any of the other three - hell, they're probably the 4th most influential hard rock band ever, after Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and Rush. That alone, in my opinion, compensates for their numerous shortcomings - Lars' personality, the Napster saga, the fact that half the riffs on Ride the Lightning were lifted directly from Master of Reality, everything they recorded after 1995, etc.
nicodemus
03 May 2004, 12:00 AM
I think Metallica's influence, for better or for worse, is far stronger in the general rock world than any of the other three - hell, they're probably the 4th most influential hard rock band ever, after Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and Rush. That alone, in my opinion, compensates for their numerous shortcomings - Lars' personality, the Napster saga, the fact that half the riffs on Ride the Lightning were lifted directly from Master of Reality, everything they recorded after 1995, etc.
I hardly think Rush can be counted in the top 4 influential hard rock bands ever. Zeppelin and Sabbath I can see no problem, but Rush? Outside of Dream Theatre and Primus, I can't think of too many people they've influenced. What about Cream, Jimi Hendrix Experience, the Who, or the Doors?
Deuteriumoxide
03 May 2004, 12:14 AM
I have to go with metallica.
I love em.
But other than metallica I hate most metal.
So I guess I'm biased but most heavy metal, to me, isn't worth listening to.
Metallica never sold out. They got older. the guys, in their thirties, who wrote Load and Reload were a lot different than the kids who wrote Kill 'Em All. If anything I think it would have been "selling out" for them to never have moved past thrash metal.
La China Poblana
03 May 2004, 04:04 AM
I had to vote for Anthrax, just for their sense of humor.
"Well, we're Anthrax and we take no sh!t..."
whirlwind
03 May 2004, 09:18 AM
I love Metallica, but I had to vote for Slayer. Reign in Blood and Skeletons of Society were phenomenal albums.
HeretiC
03 May 2004, 06:07 PM
God Hates Us ALL!!!
655321
03 May 2004, 06:27 PM
It's far and away Slayer...Anthrax doesn't even belong here. Metallica totally sold out when they started dressing in matching outfits and smoking cigars in the photo shoots, and I don't even mention Lars Ulrich's participation in the Napster nonsense. And Megadeth is just a speed metal Queensryche...f'ing horrible.
Slayer has never sold out, musically speaking, EVER, EVER, EVER. And whoever said they jumped on some nu metal bandwagon that's sort of like Slipknot clearly hasn't listened to them much, because it's factually ignorant.
nicodemus
03 May 2004, 10:24 PM
Anthrax doesn't even belong here. Anybody can headline a tour with Public Enemy and Primus on the bill definately belongs here.
CrewDust
03 May 2004, 10:30 PM
Go with Metallica just because of their influence.
Alex_K
04 May 2004, 02:18 PM
And Megadeth is just a speed metal Queensryche...f'ing horrible.
Megadeth are Thrash. Queensryche f'ing rule.
Slayer has never sold out, musically speaking, EVER, EVER, EVER. And whoever said they jumped on some nu metal bandwagon that's sort of like Slipknot clearly hasn't listened to them much, because it's factually ignorant.
Hmmm... *looks at his shirt-sees Slayer eagle* Guess again. I am a Slayer fan. Among the first albums i ever bought was nearly the entire Slayer discography. I also own God hates us all (the limited edition of course) and it has some decent songs. But come on, listen to Here comes the pain, Threshold, Seven faces or Deviance (the spoken words part !). This isn't classic Thrash. It's simple, modern "groove metal" riffing (or whatever you want to call it). And the lyrics consist of little more then the words "************ you". Call me a Heavy Metal purist if you want, this is something i am proud of.
And finally:
[Question:]Which bands have influenced you since the last album?
[Kerry King]:"Well, the CD that seems to be in my CD player 90 per cent of the time is the Slipknot album, 'Slipknot'. Because, the rapping aside, when they get angry and pissed off it's great, I love it.
"Heavy metal or no metal at all, whimps and posers leave the hall" - Manowar