Pope stealing ball from Keeper? [R]

[galperin]

can anyone explain why the goal did not count when eddie picked the keeper and tucked it home?

it should have counted, right?

[Achtung]

Yeah this is being discussed a bit in the other thread, and the only possible answer is that there was a foul called in there somewhere. Couldn't be offsides because it was a corner kick. But the FSW commentators seemed as clueless as most of us, only saying, "well he can't do that." Um, why?

[Ombak]

Yeah this is being discussed a bit in the other thread, and the only possible answer is that there was a foul called in there somewhere. Couldn't be offsides because it was a corner kick. But the FSW commentators seemed as clueless as most of us, only saying, "well he can't do that." Um, why?

According to the Telemundo commentators there was a foul. I did not see one though and they never got to a replay.

[gnk]

According to the Telemundo commentators there was a foul. I did not see one though and they never got to a replay.

I taped the game, although I tried to watch it as it was being taped. I thought I saw most of the game live, but don't recall the play you are talking about. Any idea what minute (roughly) it occured? I want to look at it for myself.

[ttrevett]

There was a foul. There is no other explanation possible. I don't think Sanchez would have thrown tha ball down like he did if there wasn't a foul, and there is no reason the goal wouldn't have counted had there not been a foul.

[Tweaked]

The one replay they showed on Fox Sports World really didn't show any contact with the keeper. It looked like he was trotting through traffic in the box and rolled the ball in front of him to launch a counter. Unless he was tripped or hit or something from the opposite side from the camera. Looked pretty clean from the TV angle...(although there were alot of bodies in the way)

[LeeS]

There was a foul. There is no other explanation possible. I don't think Sanchez would have thrown tha ball down like he did if there wasn't a foul, and there is no reason the goal wouldn't have counted had there not been a foul.

That has to be what happened... Often during the telecast I could not hear whistles.
I think what gives it away is that Sanchez went to place the ball on the ground when there were literally like 15 players, from both teams, surrounding him.
No keeper, no matter how inexperienced, would have placed a free ball on the ground while having opposing players on every side of him.

Lee

[ttrevett]

I think the way he threw the ball down also means to me he thought there was a foul. He threw it with some backspin like most players do when their put the ball down before a free kick after a foul.

[Dr Jay]

Except that we went to take the kick with the ball still moving (not legal). Now maybe he wanted to quick restart but maybe he screwed up and knew it and was just trying to boot it out of there.

If there was no whistle, no flag and no arm raised than how could the keeper have know there was a foul ?

Weird play.

[FlashMan]

I'm almost positive there was a foul (on Eddie in fact on the corner). After Eddie tucked it into the net and Sanchez retrieved it, he yelled at the ref for a card. The ref pointed at his whistle as if to say, "he couldn't hear the whistle so I'm not going to give him a card for interfering with your free kick."

At least that' show I read his body and facial language.

[Motterman]

It would have been a comical goal, and it sure was a head's up play by Pope. I enjoyed winning the game at the death much better though. :D

[MeridianFC]

Here's the discussion in the Referee forum:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108923

[DCFAN]

It was a brain fart by the Mexican keeper. It should have been a goal. :rolleyes: