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sendorange
25 Apr 2004, 06:25 AM
Dalmat at it again...... I can understand him being frustrated at not being picked, and having no chance of joining permanently, but he has become a disaster. O'Hara is one of our brightest prospects, I would have kicked Dalmat's ass if I was one of the other players.

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/tm_objectid=14178448%26method=full%26siteid=55768%26headline=dalmat%2ds%2dfight%2dwith%2dspurs%2dkid-name_page.html

Gross says some interesting things about us:

http://sport.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2004/04/25/sfngro25.xml&sSheet=/sport/2004/04/25/ixfooty.html

"I always look out for Tottenham's results despite the hard time I had there. I may not be able to name you the first team these days but I do know that David Pleat is in charge of the side at the moment. Can you tell me who the main candidates for the manager's job are?" Gross, it seems, knows as much as we do.

Raddy Antic? Giovanni Trapattoni? Martin O'Neill? "O'Neill would be a good choice," he said. "But will whoever it is still have to work with David Pleat? It was Alan Sugar's idea to have David as the director of football and me as the manager - it is up to others to judge whether that works or not. I see David has managed the team for the past few months. Is he still doing his television work? That is a lot to take on when you are a manager of a club too."
Is that a subtle pop at Pleat? I think so.

Asked about his former charges at Tottenham, Gross revealed: "The biggest mistake I ever made at Tottenham was to replace Espen Baardsen in goal with Ian Walker," he said. "I picked Baardsen when Walker was injured for a while but putting him back in the first team is something I really do regret. I cannot believe he is England's No 3 goalkeeper. He is not a winner and never will be. He was lazy."

Gross is not the first former Tottenham manager to criticise Walker in recent weeks. George Graham levelled the same accusation at the Leicester keeper recently, prompting a passionate response from Walker, who insisted that he could not have worked any harder at the club. Gross begs to differ. "I can't say whether Walker's laziness was typical of the club at that time but it certainly wasn't easy for me to motivate him."

That's true, Walker was always more interested in doing his hair than saving goals! That was a mistake by Gross and it spread to the rest of the squad.

Rabbi Keane
25 Apr 2004, 04:17 PM
The shocking thing about Dalmat is that this is his third violent confrontation with a Spurs player - two times with youth players and once with Stephen Carr.

The guy is mental and I'm glad we just loaned him.

jumhed
25 Apr 2004, 07:46 PM
Was it Yank Footie legend Vince Lombardi who said 'The secret to mangement is keeping the 5 players who hate your guts away from the 5 who are undecided.'?

Nethercott, while not the greatest Spurs defender ever, used to complain that Walker picked the Spurs defence, so he never got a look in.

As for Baardsen, I moaned constantly about him being replaced with Walker when Walker returned from injury. Walker was just rubbish, he was always doing idiot things like smiling when he let the ball in.

Danners9
26 Apr 2004, 06:00 AM
Terminate the deal, 3 games to go and he won't feature (probably).

DigitalTron
26 Apr 2004, 10:52 AM
I made it clear before he came that I wasn't a Dalmat fan. He may be talented, but something's just not right with him and he doesn't get the results you'd expect for him and his talents. But as far as bust ups in the locker room or at practice, I'd tend to cut him a little slack, because athletes need that aggressive battling edge to be successful, and while it's not usually reported, it happens a lot more than people think. Of course he's frustrated, and proud, talented, ambitious athletes who have been shunned by multiple teams (Inter and Spurs for Dalmat) get very frustrated. It's a real test of character. I will not be sad to see him go (but not happy about having him back at Inter either), but I don't plan on holding any grudges. Best of luck to him.

-Digital

jumhed
26 Apr 2004, 03:30 PM
I made it clear before he came that I wasn't a Dalmat fan. He may be talented, but something's just not right with him and he doesn't get the results you'd expect for him and his talents. But as far as bust ups in the locker room or at practice, I'd tend to cut him a little slack, because athletes need that aggressive battling edge to be successful, and while it's not usually reported, it happens a lot more than people think. Of course he's frustrated, and proud, talented, ambitious athletes who have been shunned by multiple teams (Inter and Spurs for Dalmat) get very frustrated. It's a real test of character. I will not be sad to see him go (but not happy about having him back at Inter either), but I don't plan on holding any grudges. Best of luck to him.

-Digital

I'd rather he didn't pick on the Spurs youth team though.

dashiel
26 Apr 2004, 10:24 PM
But as far as bust ups in the locker room or at practice, I'd tend to cut him a little slack, because athletes need that aggressive battling edge to be successful, and while it's not usually reported, it happens a lot more than people think.

-Digital

can't jump on board with that, there are far too many great players out there that don't feel the need to pull some **************** macho nonsense with kids in the locker room. dalmat's petulant attitude and violent outbursts are a sign of immaturity not aggressive edge.

i've never heard of henry or owen or shearer or zidane getting in to a single punch up, let alone 3 in a single season. while locker room bust ups may not be reported (and personally i'm disinclined to believe it happens all that often), if dalmat's had three reported then how many haven't been reported? if it's only been those three then why have they been reported when others haven't? either way the guy is a headcase.

sendorange
27 Apr 2004, 08:25 AM
http://www.glory-glory.net/news/show_story.asp?story_id=458

Dalmat is gone. A sound move, he wasn't getting any football and after his form slipped he didn't deserve any. Best rid of him seeing as the club weren't going to sign him permanently.

I will remember his superb run of form though a few months back. He looked superb, full of running and tricks. Shame it didn't last.

Joe E
27 Apr 2004, 11:16 AM
can't jump on board with that, there are far too many great players out there that don't feel the need to pull some **************** macho nonsense with kids in the locker room. dalmat's petulant attitude and violent outbursts are a sign of immaturity not aggressive edge.

i've never heard of henry or owen or shearer or zidane getting in to a single punch up, let alone 3 in a single season. while locker room bust ups may not be reported (and personally i'm disinclined to believe it happens all that often), if dalmat's had three reported then how many haven't been reported? if it's only been those three then why have they been reported when others haven't? either way the guy is a headcase.

agreed for the large part..except for the never seeing alan shearer getting into a punch up. was it gary speed or rob lee he fought after they called him boring? one of them anyway.

DigitalTron
27 Apr 2004, 08:48 PM
Another story, but it says the same things:

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,58-1132899,00.html

I think Sendorange said it all, sound move, he's not going to add anything to the rest of this season and they may be able to use his dismissal as a rallying point for the players. Everyone knows they're playing for their jobs, and everyone knows that nonsense will not be tolerated. A new coach comes in next season, and the auditions have officially begun.

-Digital

Danners9
30 Apr 2004, 05:21 AM
He's also out of pocket by £250k because Inter won't be paying his wages until the date he was supposed to return, June 1st.

Tee hee hee!