Transfer rumours - who's in/out.Fact, fiction and opinions!

[qazwsx]

I suprised by the lack of transfer talk over Chivu. If we are getting rid of Babayaro in the close season we will need a new LB to deputise for Wayne Bridge. Since he could also play CB he would give the team more versality in defence and will mean we can have keep our current depth without having good players playing only a few games a season.

[ZANI]

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[ZANI]

Originally Posted by ZANI
You better keep him. If he leaves, next season, Arsenal will win as many games as Portsmouth won this season . I will tell you why.
Arsenal scored almost every game. Henry played I think every game. Arsenal scored 71 goal so far, and Henry has 29 and probably 15 assists. If you take him out of the equation, how many goals you got left.

If Arsenal is the only thing between Chelsea and the Championship, all this talk about Ronaldo for Chelsea is not necessary. All they got to do is to grab Henry out of Arsenal, and boom !! . crambles Arsenal. - QUOTE


OK honestly , I am not not trying to move the battle here, I am just trying to get your opinions. I think this is killing two birds with one stone. Even if we get Henry and he flops for us, he won't be there either. What I am trying to say is, rather than buying a bunch of Joes, put down an incredible offer for Henry and see how things unfold. - No insults please.

[billyireland]

qzwsq - To buy Chivu & not make him a starter would be criminal and may make his hesitant to sign for the Russians. But out of Bridge, Gallas & Terry, can you really bench any of them, either? Not in my opinion. The only way I could really see this workign is if Gallas switches to RB and Chivu partners Terry.

ZANI - over the Henry idea... where were you last summer?

[nicephoras]

qzwsq - To buy Chivu & not make him a starter would be criminal and may make his hesitant to sign for the Russians. But out of Bridge, Gallas & Terry, can you really bench any of them, either? Not in my opinion. The only way I could really see this workign is if Gallas switches to RB and Chivu partners Terry.

Actually, Chivu's been a bit off his form lately.......but at any rate, there would be plenty of room for Chivu. He'd play as a LB when Bridge doesn't, and he'd likely get plenty of starts at CB too. Look at how often Desailly has played this year. (Too often, imho.) If Huth, our 4th choice CB, can play this many games, why not Chivu? Come to think of it, I think our CB pairing in the first Arsenal game was Huth and Melchiot(!). So yeah, I think we'd find room for Captain Romania.

[nicephoras]

Originally Posted by ZANI
You better keep him. If he leaves, next season, Arsenal will win as many games as Portsmouth won this season . I will tell you why.
Arsenal scored almost every game. Henry played I think every game. Arsenal scored 71 goal so far, and Henry has 29 and probably 15 assists. If you take him out of the equation, how many goals you got left.

If Arsenal is the only thing between Chelsea and the Championship, all this talk about Ronaldo for Chelsea is not necessary. All they got to do is to grab Henry out of Arsenal, and boom !! . crambles Arsenal. - QUOTE


OK honestly , I am not not trying to move the battle here, I am just trying to get your opinions. I think this is killing two birds with one stone. Even if we get Henry and he flops for us, he won't be there either. What I am trying to say is, rather than buying a bunch of Joes, put down an incredible offer for Henry and see how things unfold. - No insults please.

Um....not sure what will "cramble" Arsenal, but the issue isn't whether or not we want Henry (of course we do!) but whether or not Arsenal will sell him (not on David Dein's life). So this is pretty irrelevant.
While you're at this, why not get Gerrard and Viera too?

[yossarian]

Um....not sure what will "cramble" Arsenal, but the issue isn't whether or not we want Henry (of course we do!) but whether or not Arsenal will sell him (not on David Dein's life). So this is pretty irrelevant.
While you're at this, why not get Gerrard and Viera too?

I think that means Arsenal would crumble....but with a distinctly cranberry flavoring to their demise. :p

[ZANI]

qzwsq - .

ZANI - over the Henry idea... where were you last summer?

What if the 120M spent would have gone like this :
70M on Henry, 20M on a World class defender, 10M on a good back up keeper or even better keeper, and another 20M spent in the mid field.
If you noticed only about 3 or 4 new players out shone the players we had before this season.
When you bring in 12 new players, that is just chaos, as much as he annoyed me with his tinkering (Ranieri) , I gotta give him credit for the season he had this year. It could have been worse.
As for Henry I don't think if there is any pro player that would resist a move when it comes to double or more than double their pay.

[ZANI]

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While you're at this, why not get Gerrard and Viera too?

In my opinion. It is Henry that makes the difference in that Aresenal team.

[billyireland]

Actually, Chivu's been a bit off his form lately.......but at any rate, there would be plenty of room for Chivu. He'd play as a LB when Bridge doesn't, and he'd likely get plenty of starts at CB too. Look at how often Desailly has played this year. (Too often, imho.) If Huth, our 4th choice CB, can play this many games, why not Chivu? Come to think of it, I think our CB pairing in the first Arsenal game was Huth and Melchiot(!). So yeah, I think we'd find room for Captain Romania.
That is true, but I would figure that whoever is the new coach next year will probably go for a more settled squad, with 2 definite starting CBs (obviously to be rested from time to time & for less important games) as opposed to the Tinkerman. Desailly almost certainly won't be there, and Hut hwill want to build on the talent he has displayed this year, whic he will probably be given chances to do, given the fact that he is only about 21 years old. I don't find it impossible to see Chivu coming in, but if he does, he will probably be your only backline signing, other than perhaps a rightback... not that most Chelski fans will mind! Just when people say they want Chivu, Samuel AND a rightback in, it gets on my nerves a bit that they haven't noticed that this will mean at least as much tinkering at the back next season. Then these same people will turn around and lambast Ranieri for all his tinkering. The mind boggles, really.

[ZANI]

I think that means Arsenal would crumble....but with a distinctly cranberry flavoring to their demise. :p
Ok very funny !! I screw up a little in spelling . It could have been worse the way you guys attacked me.

[yossarian]

Ok very funny !! I screw up a little in spelling . It could have been worse the way you guys attacked me.

Don't mind me. I was just responding to Nic's post. And if you check out the thread to which I think you're referring...I don't believe I was one of the ones that "attacked" you...just tried to answer your question. :D

[nicephoras]

In my opinion. It is Henry that makes the difference in that Aresenal team.

Whereas Gerrard has been by far Liverpool's best player, and it can easily be argued that Viera is more important to Arsenal than Henry.

The point is that you can't simply buy every player you want. Some aren't for sale. Like Henry.

Your idea about the 120M doesn't work either. Because that would have left us with no d-mid or no width at all, no Glen Johnson, no Wayne Bridge, and a real lack of depth in midfield, and a lack of younger prospects. I LIKE what we did with the 120M. Had it not been for Ranieri's bizarre fiddling in Monaco, we might be laughing all the way to the CL trophy now.

[the101er]

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Is Lampard a "Galactico" or does he carry H2O for Veron, Crespo, and co.?

In my opinion he should be the highest paid player at Chelsea.

[Clan]

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Is Lampard a "Galactico" or does he carry H2O for Veron, Crespo, and co.?

In my opinion he should be the highest paid player at Chelsea.

Well, the main problem is that Veron and Crespo are/were overpaid - even if they did turn in some good performances.
Lampard wants a piece of that action (can't blame him) - but i think the club are reluctant to have more players at that high a wage per week.

Chelsea will settle on a new deal for the lad in the off season i'm sure, and, i'll bet he's pulling in around £70,000 pw at the begining of the new season to keep him in line with Duff.

[samgaucho]

Ronaldinho - Chelsea

If we can sign him we will easily be the best the world

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[billyireland]

Well, where would you play him? He would definitely be a prennial start, but do you weant him in central midfield, the wing or 'the hole'? Even though it would be a big blow for ManU's title chances next season, I would LOVE to see Chelsea get Ronaldinho, Joaquin & perhaps Ronaldo, since a really dangerous threat in frotn of goal is something you lacked this season (Mutu & Eidur seem more like 'forwards' to me, Crespo is very overrated & Jimmy is past his prime, and while still knocking them in, not scaring defences like Ruud or Henry).

[BridgeMonkee]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/3712165.stm

Has anyone mentioned this yet?
Just my two cents. I say we cash in, while we still can. BUT, it does make me a little upset. I'm sure he'll have a great season NEXT year with Inter, but IF he stays with us I'm not sure that he will have a great next season. Ho-Hum.

and the round-up is as follows:
Chelsea defender John Terry is a £15m summer target for Italian giants Inter Milan. according to the Star. Which is more than a little silly.

[ZANI]

Whereas Gerrard has been by far Liverpool's best player, and it can easily be argued that Viera is more important to Arsenal than Henry.

The point is that you can't simply buy every player you want. Some aren't for sale. Like Henry.

Your idea about the 120M doesn't work either. Because that would have left us with no d-mid or no width at all, no Glen Johnson, no Wayne Bridge, and a real lack of depth in midfield, and a lack of younger prospects. I LIKE what we did with the 120M. Had it not been for Ranieri's bizarre fiddling in Monaco, we might be laughing all the way to the CL trophy now.

Gerrard being the best for Liverpool, you saw what kind of season Liverpool had and how many goals they scored. Imagine Viera with Liverpool forwards and you would have no doubt about Henry.
I don't know if we really pushed hard for Henry. May be I am trippin on this, but if Chelsea could have gotten him to initiate the move. It could have been different - Remember Saha.
For the 120M - Are you cool with the keepers we have. Think of Nonda's goal on this one.
Are you down with the congestion in the midfield? ( yet you don't like tinkering). 20 M would have brought in Makelele and another MF to go with the players we had. It was Gronkjer all the way, anyway.
20 M in the back would cover Bridge or somebody else plus Glen, by the way how much did Glen cost. Not much if I am not mistaken, remember Gallas, Terry, Desailly were already there.
What if the money for Crespo and Mutu would go for one deadly striker to go with the two we had and may be brought back Forsell from Birmingham in case Ranieri wanted to tinker a little.
I am saying this because summer is comming and who knows, Chelsea may hit transfer market again and come with a whole new team next season.

[nicephoras]

Well, where would you play him? He would definitely be a prennial start, but do you weant him in central midfield, the wing or 'the hole'? Even though it would be a big blow for ManU's title chances next season, I would LOVE to see Chelsea get Ronaldinho, Joaquin & perhaps Ronaldo, since a really dangerous threat in frotn of goal is something you lacked this season (Mutu & Eidur seem more like 'forwards' to me, Crespo is very overrated & Jimmy is past his prime, and while still knocking them in, not scaring defences like Ruud or Henry).

Where would we play him? That's simple - as a striker up top. Play him along-side Crespo. Its not like Ronaldinho plays defense anyway. We wouldn't need Ronaldo then, unless we offloaded Crespo/Mutu. Nor do I think we want 2 Brazilians up top.