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MidwestRef
24 Apr 2004, 05:29 PM
How do you try to track PI during the course of a game? Do you look for numbers, faces, or try to use some other memory device to help you? I called a PI in my game today, but it was for two fouls in the course of a minute. It was a slam-dunk decision. However, I have a tough time remembering a foul in, say, the 6th, 18th, and 40th minute.
Alberto
24 Apr 2004, 06:16 PM
How do you try to track PI during the course of a game? Do you look for numbers, faces, or try to use some other memory device to help you? I called a PI in my game today, but it was for two fouls in the course of a minute. It was a slam-dunk decision. However, I have a tough time remembering a foul in, say, the 6th, 18th, and 40th minute.
Not always easy to do. I believe if have to work to make mental notes or write a number on your hand with a sharpie waterproof marker of who the skillful players are and who is hacking. If the blue #10 has been brought down three times by three different white players, book the last player for PI. Conversely, if #14 is constantly fouling use your discretion and book for PI.
ProfZodiac
24 Apr 2004, 07:50 PM
All my games are youth (U-16 and below), so for me, faces usually work fine. Hairstyles is a decent way to do it for the age group. You can have one kid with cornrows, another with a crew cut, and a third with very obvious hat hair.
That said, numbers is obviously the best way to track. If a player commits multiple fouls, or even one that I found to be more reckless or dangerous than to be expected for the age group and division, I find myself watching them more closely without having to make much of a mental note.
How do you try to track PI during the course of a game?There are few enough candidates for PI that I don't have to do anything special. Typically I make a mental note of the player's number if I notice that I've blown the whistle or allowed advantage two or three times in a relatively short time frame (lord knows I don't have any long-term memory :) ). If that player commits another foul while I still retain the mental note then I will give them a verbal admonition to cool it. One or two more and I go to the book.
Alberto mentions the other form of PI - repeated fouls against one player. That's easier to identify, but harder to actually call. When the foul count reaches my threshold (3-6 within a 10-15 minute span) I make a point to verbally and demonstrably indicate that further fouls against this player may be considered misconduct. Again, one or two more and I reach for the book.
Andy TAUS
24 Apr 2004, 09:23 PM
In the Rugby League football code in Australia, PI (& professional fouls) is punished by "sin-binning" for 10 minutes. The referee is wired up for sound to the two side-line & one video-review officials (who call a lot of these kinds of infractions). The referee still can act or not on what's being fed back to him from the other 3 officials.
I think that a yellow card (for PI or a professional foul) should get a "sin-binning" in Football (Soccer).
NHRef
26 Apr 2004, 08:41 AM
I find that I "get use to" certain players that I notice have habits that easily lead to fouls and they are easy to remember and keep an eye on. PI against a single player, but by different players takes a bit longer to notice.
However I centered a u14 girls game yesterday that had triplets on one team, was hard to keep them straight which was which