If not Ranieri, then who?

[nicephoras]

Its looking quite likely that Ranieri signed his own resignation letter with his tinkering this past Tuesday. However, if he goes, who comes in? Eriksson signed a new deal with the FA, Wenger isn't leaving Arsenal(despite Monkee's objections, I'd gladly take him :)), and there aren't any promising English coaches who're ready to take up the challenge of winning a treble. And no, I do NOT want Martin O'Neill.

So who exactly does that leave? Neither Hitzfeld nor Capello strike me as great options. Do we want Mourinho?(he does speak English) Del Bosque????

My first choice would be Wenger, because he's young, and he would give us a chance to lure either Viera or Henry to the Bridge, and lets face it - we'd take both of them in a heartbeat. But, that's very unlikely to happen. So which "big name" are we going to get? Because clearly that's what Roman would be after.
Ought to be an interesting summer.

[Clan]

Gianluca Vialli :D

[cfc069]

It doesn't matter who comes in place of Ranieri. Because whoever it is or it maybe they are going to be under more pressure to win a trophy immediately than Ranieri is now.

Despite Abramovich's billions, I really cannot see him tear up Ranieri's contract and pay him 9miilion GBP which it is gonna cost. Whether you like Ranieri or you don't, Chelsea have to stick with him. He is building a solid foundation and we WILL under Ranieri be a force in the Premiership next season. This season is the guiness before the Champagne.

After all we are in the Champions League Semi-final, down but certainly not out, we are guaranteed at least 3rd in the Premiership, we beat Arsenal. We beat Man U and probably will again in two weeks or so.

If Ranieri gets replaced it will be the same old Manager changeover story. Chairman gives new man 1-2yrs to settle in. Get the staff, get the players and start to build NEW foundations. As I have said if the new man comes in and wins something straight away fair play, but if he doesn't - is Abramovich gonna pay him off - Chances are the new man will be on double Ranieri's wage. I dont think so!!!!

PS Ranieri couldn't speak English when he got here

[sinner78]

mourinho is your man....If he can turn a team like porto into world beaters just think what he can do with the chelsea squad.

[nicephoras]

Gianluca Vialli :D

I ALMOST mentioned his name :D

[cfc069]

Porto are hardly world beaters at the moment

after 78 mins

Porto 0-0 Deportivo

At the moment Chelsea have nothing to fear when they get to Germany

COME ON CHELSEA!!!!

[nicephoras]

There's no [R] in this thread. I REALLY wish you hadn't just posted that. Do you mind deleting it if you get a chance? I was tivoing the game, and was going to watch it later today.
I don't care about cards and such (this is a football board), but you might want to be a bit more careful.

[BridgeMonkee]

Ok, so the situation is

Roman does not seem to be fond of Claudio
In Particular Roman is not fond of the tinkering
Ranieri seems to be, bloody minded about his tinkering, he doesn’t seem to be able to stop. He’s addicted. He doesn’t know when to just let it lie.
Ranieri is very good at developing players. Look at the Lampards and the Terry’s. He works well with them and they seem very devoted to their manager.
Ranieri brought the age of the squad down dramatically.
I think Ranieri has made some very logical buys. He (or was it him?) signed some good players.
He has also signed a few duds over the years (Joka?), but then so does everyone (Vialli signed some duds too).
Is CR a winner? He’s a great coach, but does he instill the “unbelievable belief”?
“Unbelievable belief” is what Paul Merson once said Mr.Wenger instills in his teams.
Wenger is not leaving the arse, if he does he’ll go to Madrid.
“wenger is not leaving the arse” said the ball boy to. . . :D
Anyways
I just don’t think that CR will see us to the Promised Land
Who are the proven winners out there? The tactical geniuses? Managers young enough to takeover and build an empire?
There really isn’t that many.
Lippi is staying at Juve.
Sven is staying at Svengland (thank god).
Capello? Mourinho? Del Bosque?
None of whom really seem like a good fit to me.
Out of the box: Vialli, George Graham, Souness, M O’Neil, McClaren, Mark Hughes, Curbishley, etc – I don’t think so.
Ferguson? And then we sign Beckham?
Deschamps?
Valencia manager Rafa Benitez?
Whatshisface? The Dutch fellah at Barca? Rijkard?
Johan Cruyff?
Holland coach Dick Advocaat?
Brazilian legend Zico (now manager of Japan) ??
Luiz Felipe Scolari?
I can't think of anyone that really would make me amazed

[BridgeMonkee]

Ok, so the situation is
Johan Cruyff?


I've always been a big fan of his. What's he up to these days?
imho the best player ever

His form of speaking became known in the Netherlands as "Cruijffiaans". Examples:
· "Italians can not win over us, but we can certainly lose to them" ("Italianen kunnen niet van ons winnen, maar we kunnen wel van ze verliezen.")
· "Without the ball, you can't win" ("Zonder de bal kun je niet winnen.")
· "Speed is often confused with insight. When I start running before the rest, I seem faster." ("Snelheid wordt vaak verward met inzicht. Als ik als eerste ga lopen dan de rest, lijk ik sneller.")
· "Before I make a mistake, I DO NOT make that mistake" ("Voordat ik een fout maak, maak ik die fout niet.")
· "Every disadvantage has its advantage" ("Elk nadeel heeft z'n voordeel.")
and his most famous saying: "Chance is logical" ("Toeval is logisch.")

[paulocesar]

Ok, so the situation is

Roman does not seem to be fond of Claudio
In Particular Roman is not fond of the tinkering
Ranieri seems to be, bloody minded about his tinkering, he doesn’t seem to be able to stop. He’s addicted. He doesn’t know when to just let it lie.
Ranieri is very good at developing players. Look at the Lampards and the Terry’s. He works well with them and they seem very devoted to their manager.
Ranieri brought the age of the squad down dramatically.
I think Ranieri has made some very logical buys. He (or was it him?) signed some good players.
He has also signed a few duds over the years (Joka?), but then so does everyone (Vialli signed some duds too).
Is CR a winner? He’s a great coach, but does he instill the “unbelievable belief”?
“Unbelievable belief” is what Paul Merson once said Mr.Wenger instills in his teams.
Wenger is not leaving the arse, if he does he’ll go to Madrid.
“wenger is not leaving the arse” said the ball boy to. . . :D
Anyways
I just don’t think that CR will see us to the Promised Land
Who are the proven winners out there? The tactical geniuses? Managers young enough to takeover and build an empire?
There really isn’t that many.
Lippi is staying at Juve.
Sven is staying at Svengland (thank god).
Capello? Mourinho? Del Bosque?
None of whom really seem like a good fit to me.
Out of the box: Vialli, George Graham, Souness, M O’Neil, McClaren, Mark Hughes, Curbishley, etc – I don’t think so.
Ferguson? And then we sign Beckham?
Deschamps?
Valencia manager Rafa Benitez?
Whatshisface? The Dutch fellah at Barca? Rijkard?
Johan Cruyff?
Holland coach Dick Advocaat?
Brazilian legend Zico (now manager of Japan) ??
Luiz Felipe Scolari?
I can't think of anyone that really would make me amazed

You forgot the best coach in the world....Carlos Bianchi. Carry on....

p.s. I see Mourinho (has won titles, good motivator, good tactician, good scout, and hec...speaks English) as the favourite, followed by possibly Deschamp (although Juve really want him to take over while Lippi goes to the boardroom), Capello (has done amazing work for Milan, Real Madrid, and Roma...can't beat that track record...and has a stated interest in working abroad again, although will take time to learn better English) and McClaren
(would have been brought in anyway if Sven got the job) as the outsiders.

I like Ranieri, and feel he has been hard done by this year, but the payoff for getting fired will help heal the hurt, as well as many other clubs calling in (Spurs, Roma, dare i say Real Madrid or Liverpool!?!?!).

[nicephoras]

I have a good feeling that if Ranieri is fired, he'll be at Real next year. He's exactly what they need - a coach who's willing to rotate his squad and can work with young players. Their young defenders can really use the tutoring. Heck, Pavon has even regressed.

I don't want Bianchi. I know, he's a good coach, but I don't know how well he speaks English. Plus, for a man who hasn't been that successful in Europe, I don't want to hand Chelsea to him. Capello is the same way - his time at Real was a failure. There's also the English factor again.

Deschamps or Mourinho would have to be the favorites, plus I'm sure many will be happy to see Deschamps at Chelsea.

[Lowecifer]

Bruce Arena.

Kidding.

Stick with Claudio. It's the only way.

[BridgeMonkee]

Deschamps or Mourinho would have to be the favorites, plus I'm sure many will be happy to see Deschamps at Chelsea.

Deschamps didn’t really enjoy his time at Chelsea. I can’t see him wanting to leave Monte Carlo and come to Chelsea to be honest. He is at the beginning of his managerial career. He has time. Although, Money does talk.

[BridgeMonkee]

I like Ranieri, and feel he has been hard done by this year, but the payoff for getting fired will help heal the hurt, as well as many other clubs calling in (Spurs, Roma, dare i say Real Madrid or Liverpool!?!?!).

I like Ranieri. I think the players and the fans do like him. I get the feeling Roman doesn’t like him. Roman runs the show. It was rather strange watching the game yesterday as the camera cut away to shots of the Monaco Royal Family and then the Chelsea Royal Family. Very gladiatorial. Very coliseum.

IF we ditch CR – and this thread is an IF – I’d like to see Johan Cruyff, there I said it. It aint gonna happen, but I just like Cruyff. He was an awesome player. Played at Stamford Bridge once as well, in a friendly against the Chels, he was playing for the New York Cosmos. (Yep, Crutff played a few exhibitions for the Cosmos in the 1978-79 close season. The Cosmos however failed to close the deal to sign him permanently.)

Cruyff is on the elite list of those who have won the competition as a player and coach. Miguel Munoz (both with Real Madrid), Giovanni Trapattoni (AC Milan/Juventus), Johan Cruyff (Ajax /Barcelona) and Carlo Ancelotti (both with AC Milan) are the only men to enjoy success at both levels.

Maybe we need a little Clockwork Orange at the Bridge?

[nicephoras]

Errr..........he'll immediately alienate half the players. Talented fella, but he often tends to piss off half the squad. Not sure we need that with so many players coming in. Plus, he'd probably demand we sign more Dutchmen like he always does.

[Clan]

Deschamps or Mourinho would have to be the favorites, plus I'm sure many will be happy to see Deschamps at Chelsea.

It's been about 5 years now - but i seem to remember that he left under less than glorious circumstances - or am i off track here?

The memory is the first to go, at least thats wht the kids tell me......

[BridgeMonkee]

Errr..........he'll immediately alienate half the players. Talented fella, but he often tends to piss off half the squad. Not sure we need that with so many players coming in. Plus, he'd probably demand we sign more Dutchmen like he always does.


Some of the players need alienating perhaps?
Some of them need a clip round the head.
Robben and Duff would appreciate the Great One’s guidance.
Dutch players? We could do with some NEW ones. youngsters.
sign Dutch players? I'll take Ruud van Nistelrooy :D
Don’t have a problem with the Dutch. Now the French. . .
It was just an idea, partially formed.
Just trying to think outside of the usual suspects.
Always been a fan of Total Football.

[nicephoras]

It's been about 5 years now - but i seem to remember that he left under less than glorious circumstances - or am i off track here?

The memory is the first to go, at least thats wht the kids tell me......

As a player, he was a "water carrier", according to Cantona. I would imagine there are many places he left in under circumstances that weren't so great. But its been 5 years, and its not like we ran him out the way Fergie did Beckham. I don't recall anyone hitting him with a shoe!

[BridgeMonkee]

It's been about 5 years now - but i seem to remember that he left under less than glorious circumstances - or am i off track here?

The memory is the first to go, at least thats wht the kids tell me......

DIDIER DESCHAMPS asked the Blues for a move after to failing to settle comfortably into English football. He played 41 games for Chelsea.


http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2000/07/29/current/ppage_3.htm

[paulo]

Errr..........he'll immediately alienate half the players. Talented fella, but he often tends to piss off half the squad. Not sure we need that with so many players coming in. Plus, he'd probably demand we sign more Dutchmen like he always does.

i wonder if he would make Roman sign jordi for a ridiculous transfer fee. :D