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Onionsack
19 Apr 2004, 11:10 AM
With the recent interest in overseas league for American talent and the progression of MLS as stable league I can't help but wonder how our National Team may look in a short 6 years, at the time of the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

FORWARDS

Freddy Adu 20- By this point Freddy will have moved on to a pro career in Europe I would assume. For Freddy the only real question is if he will live up to the enourmous expectations of his talent. How good will this kid be, how well did the MLS do in developing him? I see Freddy as a major part of this team but also not a lock for first 11..much can change.

Conor Casey 29- I see Conor as they Brian McBride replacement, and potentially a 2006 guy as well. I would bet that he will be a major contributor to Dortmond after his loan spell which would only increase his value as an international. If the US is still using the target forward stystem in 2010 then Casey could fill that role.

Landon Donovon28- A no brainer, LD will still be in San Jose. :) Ok prob not. I think by this time he will be the all-time US goal scoring leader and captian of the USMNT. His eventual departure to better competion will certianly take LD to the next level. I still believe he should look to Spain but thats just my opinion. This guy has loads of talent and a lot of international success and experiance. Much like Adu, he will be there but his quality at that time still has a lot to do with him taking the next step. Also LD may be a Right Midfield option as well.

Eddie Johnson26- If this guy can get it together he will be downright dangerous. His size and speed could absoutley devistate defenders. After a couple stale years in MLS he may be ready to break out. The thing with Eddie is his finishing, someone pointed out last year he has a technique flaw when shooting, I don't know if thats true but if it is someone needs to help him fix that. Asuming Eddie puts the pieces together he will be enjoying a club career overseas before the 2010 WC.

Kenny Cooper25- I admit I know very little about Mr. Cooper. I am not even sure if his name deserves mention here but his goal scoring for Manchester United's reserves can not go unnoticed. Lets hope he gets some first team experiance and dosn't end up being another Kirvoski.

MIDFIELD

DeMarcus Beasley28- He has 1-2 years left in MLS at best. A move to Spain is long overdue and he needs the experiance of higher compitition to reduce his realiance on his speed. I see DeMarcus as our starting left midfielder, he had proven his value to the NT over the past couple years and seems to be a mainstay for the future.

Bobby Convey27- I think last years U-20WC proved that Bobby is capable of becoming one of the best central midfielders the US has even had. IMO he was the best player in the tournement up to the elimination of the US. Its good he didn't move to EPL last summer, he still has to develop and wait for the right time..but that time will come.

Eddie Gaven24- is anyone else surprised how well Eddie has played so far this year? With all the talk about Adu we seem to forget that Eddie has only just turned 17. I have a feeling that this kid may become a truley expectional player in the future. Bob Bradley should prove to be a good teacher, and who knows maybee BB will be the coach in 2010?

Daniel Szetela23- there is a lot of hype about this kid, if he lives up to any of it he will be in the USMNT piture..but 2010 may be too early for him, time will tell.

Pat Noonan29- perhaps..or perhaps not. Noonan is definatly on the radar but is a fringe choice unless he continues to improve. I know people that played against him at IU and they all are in agreement that the guy is really good....lets hope he gets better abd better as this is only his second MLS season.

Kyle Martino29- Paging Mr. Martino..the was a lot of talk about Kyle being the next Reyna a while back. That talk has cooled a bit but that doesn't mean is dead. Maybe Kyle just needs a change of employment to reenergize him. Kyle has the skills but needs to find the confidance that made everyone talk to begin with.

Ricardo Clark27- As many people have already pointed out, Clark could be the defensive midfielder of the future. He has all the tools at his disposal and is giving evry indication he will improve as his experiance level rises. In fact I can see Clark being a mainstay at that position after 2006.

DEFENDER

Carlos Bocanegra31- If Carlos stays in the EPL as a starter over the next 6 years, we will have a bonafied top class defender. He will have played agaist some of the best teams and players in the world. His experiance even at 31 will be invaluable. If he keeps playing and improves while in England don't expect him to be with Fulham long.

Cory Gibbs30- One thing I noticed about Gibbs was his speed. He can cover ground and is big enough to tangle with the big strikers. (vs. R.V.N. in Holland). Moving to MLS will certianly give him the exposure he needs to be in the USMNT, I would say he will be a 2006 guy as well.

Frankie Simak25- The captian of the Arsenal reserve team has been very impressive for Arse's young squad. Hopefully there is a spot for him soon in the senior side. If this does occur Frank will be an asset for our defence.

Zak Whitbread26- I hope that the injury he suffered will not hinder his career. This Liverpool reservist played very well in the U-20WC and is covented by Liverpool. If he can come back 100% from the injury and develop in Liverpools reserve system he will be there in 2010.

Danny Karbassiyoon26-Not a true LB, but he has excelled in that psoition for Arsenal's reserve side. Considering the Ashley Cole and Gael Clichy both play LB at Arsenal shouls tell us something.

KEEPER

Tim Howard31- at 31 Timmy may not posses the same athletic ability he does today but as a GK the thing you need most is experiance...with ManU he will certianly get that.

Steve Cronin27- By 2010 he still may not have enough experiance to play at the WC level but despite a couple mistakes at the U-20 WC he did show some real flashes of brilliance.




Anyway I am sure there will be even more players I forgot about as well as guys not on the rader now who in 6 years could be there too.

The one thing that stands out to me about players above is the overall team speed, certianly one of the fastest in the world. One thing is for sure, the future of American soccer has never looked brighter, hopefully we can live up to the potential.

superdave
19 Apr 2004, 11:34 AM
Danny Karbassiyoon26-Not a true LB, but he has excelled in that psoition for Arsenal's reserve side.
I thought he'd only played one or two matches there.

Onionsack
19 Apr 2004, 12:06 PM
I thought he'd only played one or two matches there.

I was under the impression that he had been training at LB for a while as opposed to forward and just recently has been starting at the position in games. Also Cole was s converted forward to LB in the Arsenal system as a youth, so it was food for thought.

Toolhead
19 Apr 2004, 01:16 PM
No Spector in 2010? I would definately have him rated higher than Karbassiyoon at defender.

peledre
19 Apr 2004, 01:23 PM
No Spector in 2010? I would definately have him rated higher than Karbassiyoon at defender.
Indeed, as well as Oguchi Oneywu and a few others.

Onionsack
19 Apr 2004, 01:39 PM
Indeed, as well as Oguchi Oneywu and a few others.


No Spector in 2010? I would definately have him rated higher than Karbassiyoon at defender


This is kind of the point, I didn't add some guys I should have but there is a depth factor on the horizon that we previously have not had before. As there was a clear cut best 11 before, in a few years that may not be the case and we might have some heated arguements over who really should be out there. Beyond what we have currently.

While I wouldn't rate Karbassiyoon higher I find it interesting that Arsenal want to play him at LB. There system of play seems to indicate that they see qualities and charecteristcs in his play that would fit the role they have used for previous LB's.

To be honest I don't know much about the ManU reservists. I do know that Cooper and Spector play regularly so the potential is there. I do follow Arsenal more closely which is why I included both of them.

Various Styles
19 Apr 2004, 03:02 PM
Freddy Adu 20- By this point Freddy who will actually be in his mid thirties and no longer interesting to the MLS media circus will have moved on to a semi pro career in the A league.

Sorry couldnt resist. One thing that most people dont seem to take into consideration is that fredua can get burnt out by playing so many games or is the MLS so weak that the players will let a 14/15 year old dribble circles around them, not that he has been doing it. However once the young phenome goes into Pele mode i reckon more than one player will knock some sense into fredua with a well placed kick to the shin. So by the time Fredua is 20yrs old he would of had about six years of playing against some brutal defenders in the MLS and might be banged up a bit.

striker
19 Apr 2004, 05:43 PM
It never ceases to amaze me that people can look so far into the future. It is 4:42 p.m. as I type, and I have absolutely no idea what I will have for dinner two hours from now.

E Diddy
19 Apr 2004, 05:48 PM
It never ceases to amaze me that people can look so far into the future. It is 4:42 p.m. as I type, and I have absolutely no idea what I will have for dinner two hours from now.

Careful.....that will spawn the What Striker Will Eat for Dinner Thread

I say a big steak, baked potato, and a heaping dose of Big Soccer speculation.

m vann
19 Apr 2004, 08:02 PM
Damn if all these players pan out we are certainly going to be a team to watch out for in WC '10. Everyone who is a US soccer fan should be excited. Just think there could also be a dozen others that slip under our noses. But time will tell and I hope time is on our side. BTW, I throw this out: Bob Bradley or Dave Sarachan will be our coach!!

jmeissen0
19 Apr 2004, 08:16 PM
more food for thought:

chad marshall
everyone says he has the skills and iirc, he will be 26

Onionsack
19 Apr 2004, 11:30 PM
I supose you could even throw in a few current veterens with caps that may still have something in the tank

JOB will be 32
Pablo will be 33
Mulrooney will be 33
Twellman will be 30 (not really a vet)
Dolo will be 31

I don't want this thread to come across as some lame "lets predict the 2010 team 1000 years before hand" thread. I read an artical about Steztela yesterday that got me thinking, compared to 6 years ago around the time of the 98' disaster how much our national team has changed and how there seems to be a number of "talented youngsters" coming up the youth system and even some that are being developed and chased by arguably the best clubs in the world. Its not to say we never have had any good youngsters making waves before; two of 99 U-17 team have made great contributions to the Nats(Beasley and Donovon). Also top US players are begining to move to bigger clubs, no loger 2nd division sides in Germany and England...although there are still some that do. To sum it up its feels like a great time to be a fan of US soccer, we are making good progress.

forza inter
20 Apr 2004, 09:49 PM
job and dolo should hopefully still be in the mix. god knows freakin mejduk will be in better shape than anyone when hes what, 50?! hahaha. anyways, i agree gooch and spector should be there. also, what other goalies do we have?? johnny walker?? maybe? if wolfe can keep fit i think hed be in the mix too, i know its a big but. id like to see mathis still kickin it in 10, staying in shape and really helpin our nats with the tough euro squads. word. go us go!!


another thought....adu has a brother, a younger brother. freddy says hes better than he is. watch out world...an adu 1-2 punch?? yikes



forza inter

gnk
21 Apr 2004, 11:41 AM
I would throw in Edson Buddle as a contender.

Also, Memo Gonazlez.

Onionsack
23 Apr 2004, 10:15 AM
FORWARDS

Freddy Adu 20- By this point Freddy will have moved on to a pro career in Europe I would assume. For Freddy the only real question is if he will live up to the enourmous expectations of his talent. How good will this kid be, how well did the MLS do in developing him? I see Freddy as a major part of this team but also not a lock for first 11..much can change.

Conor Casey 29- I see Conor as they Brian McBride replacement, and potentially a 2006 guy as well. I would bet that he will be a major contributor to Dortmond after his loan spell which would only increase his value as an international. If the US is still using the target forward stystem in 2010 then Casey could fill that role.

Landon Donovon28- A no brainer, LD will still be in San Jose. :) Ok prob not. I think by this time he will be the all-time US goal scoring leader and captian of the USMNT. His eventual departure to better competion will certianly take LD to the next level. I still believe he should look to Spain but thats just my opinion. This guy has loads of talent and a lot of international success and experiance. Much like Adu, he will be there but his quality at that time still has a lot to do with him taking the next step. Also LD may be a Right Midfield option as well.

Eddie Johnson26- If this guy can get it together he will be downright dangerous. His size and speed could absoutley devistate defenders. After a couple stale years in MLS he may be ready to break out. The thing with Eddie is his finishing, someone pointed out last year he has a technique flaw when shooting, I don't know if thats true but if it is someone needs to help him fix that. Asuming Eddie puts the pieces together he will be enjoying a club career overseas before the 2010 WC.

Kenny Cooper25- I admit I know very little about Mr. Cooper. I am not even sure if his name deserves mention here but his goal scoring for Manchester United's reserves can not go unnoticed. Lets hope he gets some first team experiance and dosn't end up being another Kirvoski.

MIDFIELD

DeMarcus Beasley28- He has 1-2 years left in MLS at best. A move to Spain is long overdue and he needs the experiance of higher compitition to reduce his realiance on his speed. I see DeMarcus as our starting left midfielder, he had proven his value to the NT over the past couple years and seems to be a mainstay for the future.

Bobby Convey27- I think last years U-20WC proved that Bobby is capable of becoming one of the best central midfielders the US has even had. IMO he was the best player in the tournement up to the elimination of the US. Its good he didn't move to EPL last summer, he still has to develop and wait for the right time..but that time will come.

Eddie Gaven24- is anyone else surprised how well Eddie has played so far this year? With all the talk about Adu we seem to forget that Eddie has only just turned 17. I have a feeling that this kid may become a truley expectional player in the future. Bob Bradley should prove to be a good teacher, and who knows maybee BB will be the coach in 2010?

Daniel Szetela23- there is a lot of hype about this kid, if he lives up to any of it he will be in the USMNT piture..but 2010 may be too early for him, time will tell.

Pat Noonan29- perhaps..or perhaps not. Noonan is definatly on the radar but is a fringe choice unless he continues to improve. I know people that played against him at IU and they all are in agreement that the guy is really good....lets hope he gets better abd better as this is only his second MLS season.

Kyle Martino29- Paging Mr. Martino..the was a lot of talk about Kyle being the next Reyna a while back. That talk has cooled a bit but that doesn't mean is dead. Maybe Kyle just needs a change of employment to reenergize him. Kyle has the skills but needs to find the confidance that made everyone talk to begin with.

Ricardo Clark27- As many people have already pointed out, Clark could be the defensive midfielder of the future. He has all the tools at his disposal and is giving evry indication he will improve as his experiance level rises. In fact I can see Clark being a mainstay at that position after 2006.

DEFENDER

Carlos Bocanegra31- If Carlos stays in the EPL as a starter over the next 6 years, we will have a bonafied top class defender. He will have played agaist some of the best teams and players in the world. His experiance even at 31 will be invaluable. If he keeps playing and improves while in England don't expect him to be with Fulham long.

Cory Gibbs30- One thing I noticed about Gibbs was his speed. He can cover ground and is big enough to tangle with the big strikers. (vs. R.V.N. in Holland). Moving to MLS will certianly give him the exposure he needs to be in the USMNT, I would say he will be a 2006 guy as well.

Frankie Simak25- The captian of the Arsenal reserve team has been very impressive for Arse's young squad. Hopefully there is a spot for him soon in the senior side. If this does occur Frank will be an asset for our defence.

Zak Whitbread26- I hope that the injury he suffered will not hinder his career. This Liverpool reservist played very well in the U-20WC and is covented by Liverpool. If he can come back 100% from the injury and develop in Liverpools reserve system he will be there in 2010.

Danny Karbassiyoon26-Not a true LB, but he has excelled in that psoition for Arsenal's reserve side. Considering the Ashley Cole and Gael Clichy both play LB at Arsenal shouls tell us something.

KEEPER

Tim Howard31- at 31 Timmy may not posses the same athletic ability he does today but as a GK the thing you need most is experiance...with ManU he will certianly get that.

Steve Cronin27- By 2010 he still may not have enough experiance to play at the WC level but despite a couple mistakes at the U-20 WC he did show some real flashes of brilliance.



Here are some more players that could be part of the pool in 2010.

John Spector24
http://www.ussoccerplayers.com/rno/imageTKP.JPG -Spector has been very solid at the back for the ManU reserves earning heaps of praise from coaches and supporters. There are rumors that he will be on the MAnU american tour and might see some first team action next year and/or be loaned.

Oguchi Onyewu25
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/clem/sports/m-soccer/01-02action/a-onyewu.jpg
"Gooch" should soon be getting call-ups from BA, many think he should be now. La Louviere have been served well with "gooch" on his loan spell there, all indications are he will return to Metz next season and baring relagation play top division next year. Although he is a defender he posseses excellent offensive skills.

Chad Marshall26
http://www.ibiblio.org/footy/2003/0118_usa_can_ajm/tn/sm_web_D82E3209.jpg
Chad performed very well at the youth level and at Stanford, now with Crew he is a starter and will get tested often playing for Columbus. While a senior team call up is still a ways away he should be a fixture on the U-23's for a while.

Jamil Walker29
http://www.infosportinc.com/531_walker.jpeg

This man in time will be the choice option up top for San Jose before the season is over. He has great acceleration, speed, and touch. He trained with Celtic in the off season and is highly rated by the SJ staff. He could become a very special player.or he could flop but if he gets going look out.

Jim Curtin30-
http://www.cnnsi.com/soccer/mls/news/2001/09/03/mls_rookies_sa/t1_curtin_all.jpg

Big Jim continues to be the anchor of Chicago. With Boca gone Curtin has stepped up. He is big and strong in the middle but lacking a bit on speed. He could develop into a strong central defender for the nationals depth chart before it is over.


I will put up more later on as I think of them.

peledre
23 Apr 2004, 10:24 AM
Curtin won't be able to hang with our 22-28 year old defenders in 6 years.

sregis
23 Apr 2004, 05:22 PM
"Daniel Szetela23- there is a lot of hype about this kid, if he lives up to any of it he will be in the USMNT piture..but 2010 may be too early for him, time will tell."

what we're hearing now is that he'll be signed this summer by a premiership team...i'm thinking 2006 is not early enough!

Shaster
23 Apr 2004, 05:47 PM
For forward part, it is hard to say how much Freddy will grow, but Landon is pretty much down with his growth. If Freddy can grow over 6' (for example, Bradley Jr. grew from 5'7" to 6'1" within one year), we may can field two big, strong, fast and skillful forwards. We do have some of talent pool to draw from--Buddle, E. Johnson, Quavas Kirk, etc. for this type of talents.

For central midfield, we probably will have the type of midfielders such as Szetela, Clark in the mid. For outside midfielders, guys like Mapp, Jimenanz, Alvarez may replace Beasley (or we can move Beasley to left back).

For central defender, we probably will take some very skillful ex-forwards such as Spector and Lichja, etc. The day to have a central defender like Marshall may over very soon.

forza inter
23 Apr 2004, 06:33 PM
justin mapp??? anyone???




i dont know how old hell be but hes very young now, so by 2010, hed be around conveys age?? just a guess.




forza inter

sregis
23 Apr 2004, 07:32 PM
justin mapp??? anyone???




i dont know how old hell be but hes very young now, so by 2010, hed be around conveys age?? just a guess.




forza inter

mapp is 19 right now.