i have a horrible feeling in my stomach

[Joe E]

bolton away, arsenal at home. who would be really massively surprised if we lost both of those games? if we do, we are in huge, huge trouble. i nearly came on here the other day and started a "what needs to happen to get us in europe next year thread", now yet again, after our run at the start of the year made me feel like an idiot for predicting relegation at christmas, i have far more immeiate concerns. i am extremely worried about the drop again. i wish i was back at home, i suppose this is what it must feel like when you're abroad and a relative is ill! this team doesn't look capable of winning games, and even one more win might not be enough. to be really sure, we really need two. i know we are 14th, but that gives a misleading impression of safety. we are on utterly abysmal form, and teams below us are fighting - man city undefeated in four; leeds and blackburn winning their last games. this team has so little confidence that if we go into the last 2 games against blackburn and wolves still needing points, i think they might bottle it. Furthermore, a couple of interviews i've seen in the last couple of days have scared the fcuking hell out of me: david pleat acting complacent and saying "it's going to be hard for the other teams to catch us" and simon davies saying the players are "confident we can get at least one more win". does that sound like the right kind of attitude?
please, please god, let the boys get something at bolton. and please someone reassure me, persuade me i am not about to watch my worst sporting nightmare come true.
p.s, from the depths of despair, i still have one hope of spurs putting me on cloud nine this season: if we cold do the unfathomable and end the scum's run while at the same time guaranteeing safety at WHL, it would be one of the happiest days of my life. anyone who is at home and going to any games, get behind the team for me. i just said the same thing on the phone to my brother. i sincerely help i am going to be able to go back to the UK next year and still have a premiership team to watch. 3 points on saturday would be calm me down no end. please let it happen.

[DigitalTron]

I don't know what's in store for Spurs, but if you need a bit of cheering up, I have just the thing. As most of you know, I'm also a Manchester United supporter, and I noticed an interesting news item on their board today: ;)

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2338171&postcount=606

As they say in the Guinness ads, Brilliant!

-Digital

[sendorange]

I'm not worried about relegation, the team is playing dreadful but I fully expect some moments of magic or two from Robbie, Kanoute and Defoe to pull us out of it. It has been a horrible way to end a season though, spineless and incompetent.

[Danners9]

We are 14th.

6 points ahead of Leeds. Who have to play at Arsenal on friday.

We won't go down.

[DigitalTron]

I don't know what's in store for Spurs, but if you need a bit of cheering up, I have just the thing. As most of you know, I'm also a Manchester United supporter, and I noticed an interesting news item on their board today: ;)

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2338171&postcount=606

As they say in the Guinness ads, Brilliant!

-Digital Did you guys even look at the link I posted?!?!?!? It's two pictures, and it's great stuff. I almost gave it its own thread. :D

-Digital

[sendorange]

Yeah seen that picture and others, Spurs fans do the best ones, but you can never have too much anti-a*senal material on the web.

Check this:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=104839&page=1&pp=15

[RobB]

bolton away, arsenal at home. who would be really massively surprised if we lost both of those games? if we do, we are in huge, huge trouble.


Leeds have got 2 tough games left to play. Arsenal and Chelsea away. With three winnable ones. Portsmouth, Charlton at home and Bolton away. If Leeds did get 9 pts from those three games Spurs` superior goal difference means just one more win is needed, or three draws. I think you`ll get that. The big danger is if Chelsea reach the ECL final having already lost at Old Trafford to lose 2nd place to Man Utd. They may not be too interested in Leeds at home on the final day. Last year, Leeds won at Highbury in similar circumstances. You`re away game at Wolves on the last day is insurance though.

[Rambler]

We are effectively seven points ahead of Leeds because of their massively inferior goal difference, and don't they go to Chelsea on the last day of the season as well as the trip to Highbury this Saturday ? They would have to win their other three matches to catch us, and rely on us losing all five remaining games - which even though I am a pessimist I can't even see this one happening.

Don't know who Blackburn and City have left, but I bet Leeds are thinking they are the teams who they are liley to catch.

Still the fact that we are even contenplating relegation is a massive downer. Every7 year we think it is going to be different. I am beginning to give up all hope now. The club is plain incompotent

[Rambler]

Leeds have got 2 tough games left to play. Arsenal and Chelsea away. With three winnable ones. Portsmouth, Charlton at home and Bolton away. If Leeds did get 9 pts from those three games Spurs` superior goal difference means just one more win is needed, or three draws. I think you`ll get that. The big danger is if Chelsea reach the ECL final having already lost at Old Trafford to lose 2nd place to Man Utd. They may not be too interested in Leeds at home on the final day. Last year, Leeds won at Highbury in similar circumstances. You`re away game at Wolves on the last day is insurance though.

If Leeds did win four of their last five matches then I would imagine Man City or Blackburn would go down. If we can't win one of either Blackburn at home or Wolves away (whop will be relegated by then) then we don;t deserve to be in the prem.

I can't see us losing all our next three games either. As soneone said, we have players who are caapable of producing one moment of brilliance good enough to win a game.

[Joe E]

Agreed that it is a further humiliation for spurs fans to have to contemplate relegation. You can sometimes see why fans of other clubs find our pretensions of success being around the corner pretty funny to be honest, because over the last 10 years, we've been flirting with relegation more often than europe. last year we were, what, six points above the drop? this year looks like the margin might be even slimmer. as i say, my fear of relegation may seem paranoid but it is based on how easily i can see us losing the next three games. i HAD thought that man city at home looked the most winnable of all the games we had left, so ever since failing to beat them.. i don't see any reason to be confident we can win any of the remaining games to be honest!
But i take heart from the confidence of the rest of you..the thing now is that, presuming we do stay up, this run of form has made our dreams of great things next season look all the more unlikely. when the rumours of trapattoni, van bommel etc looked like they had some substance, it seemed we might actually be a proper side next year. who knows what is going to happen now? who is going to want to come to a team who have seemingly become perennial relegation candidates, with a massively demanding and temperamental fan base, a board with a distinctly loose grip on reality, and assuming levy is going to stand by pleat, a director of football whose sole purpose in life seems to be to make things difficult for everyone onvolved with the club, be it managers, young players like rohan ricketts, or the fans who he baffles with his decisions and unintelligible press conferences. i mean really, i've been convinced that levy, pleat and the whole sorry shower had some kind of very real plan for the summer, that big changes would actually take place. but unless they've done a great job and already done a deal that the media havn't picked up on...how are they going to persuade a top manager to come to us? just because we're "a club with a lot of tradition and a beautiful ground", which seems to be the standard blurb for any manager or player feigning interest in coming in order to get a new contract at their current club, or a transfer to where they REALLY want to go (see van bommel)? no, sorry..we're just not very appealing any more. we're not in europe. we have no midfield. we have money, but not vast amounts. we have an attractive ground, but its capacity is slipping down the capacity league table and the board seem to have absolutely no idea whether we're moving, increasing...all they do is splutter and mumble about infrastructure and meaningless surveys. we're in london.. so are charlton, west ham, etc. we havn't won a proper trophy for 13 years. havn't been in europe for 4, lost to kaiserslautern and beat only a moldovan team when we were. never been anywhere NEAR the champions league. we have a girly lycra kit. chas and dave are our most famous fans. it's over people!!!! we're a joke! i mean, really, aside from the fact that you WANT it to happen so badly, what makes any of you believe that next year will be any different? :mad:

We are effectively seven points ahead of Leeds because of their massively inferior goal difference, and don't they go to Chelsea on the last day of the season as well as the trip to Highbury this Saturday ? They would have to win their other three matches to catch us, and rely on us losing all five remaining games - which even though I am a pessimist I can't even see this one happening.

Don't know who Blackburn and City have left, but I bet Leeds are thinking they are the teams who they are liley to catch.

Still the fact that we are even contenplating relegation is a massive downer. Every7 year we think it is going to be different. I am beginning to give up all hope now. The club is plain incompotent

[Mad Hattah]

good lord it's dreary in here... the sky is falling, we're going down, etc. etc. etc. breathe people. hell, at least it's exciting...

[Rambler]

Stop holding back Joe, just say what you really think !

It occured to me the other day that I have now endured more crap Totteham sides then good ones in my 20+ years of watching them. I've seen us slip from being one of the biggest three sides in the league (82-87) to one of the big five (87-95) to a mid table non-entity (95- present). I wonder if things will get worse before they get better. In the same period I've watched Chelsea nearly go out of business twice and rise from the old second division to a sturggling top flight team and now stand on the threshold of being European champions - and don't even start me on Arsenal

[Danners9]

In the same time you've also seen Liverpool go from all conquering European champions to a team of over-priced wasters and a joke of a team - really.

Also, Charlton come from nowhere (literally, as they were homeless for a long time) to be on the verge of Champions League football. Same as Birmingham.

We've seen Villa go up and down in the table, from top 3 to bottom 5, to top 8 again.

Football is about cycles, some teams have their day while others struggle. Then it changes.

Chelsea were nowhere, and now they are one of the top sides in Europe. Although it has taken a lot of money, the likes of which we probably will never have (very few clubs do though).

[Joe E]

Agreed about the cycles - the thing is though, you have to at least stay IN TOUCH in order to get back up there again. take liverpool. yeah, they're a pale shadow of their former selves, but while they havn't won the league since 1990, they're always in touch with the champions league spots, it's only a couple of years ago they won an FA cup and UEFA cup, and they have two of the first names on the england team sheet in their side. the potential is still there for them. for us, we're just getting too far adrift. we seem just as likely to me to become a wolves/forest/derby/burnley type team - once a footballing giant, stayed out of the elite that little bit too long, eventually lost it all together and disappeared into nothingness. jesus, i sound like some ancient greek prophet of doom. but really, i'm getting a kind of now or never feeling about the next couple of years..

In the same time you've also seen Liverpool go from all conquering European champions to a team of over-priced wasters and a joke of a team - really.

Also, Charlton come from nowhere (literally, as they were homeless for a long time) to be on the verge of Champions League football. Same as Birmingham.

We've seen Villa go up and down in the table, from top 3 to bottom 5, to top 8 again.

Football is about cycles, some teams have their day while others struggle. Then it changes.

Chelsea were nowhere, and now they are one of the top sides in Europe. Although it has taken a lot of money, the likes of which we probably will never have (very few clubs do though).

[Clean Sheet]

While I understand all the frustration and worry, I can't imagine us going down. I've got to believe that at least one of our high-priced strikers will get on the pace and put us out of harms way. If the defense can go out and give us the form that they did just 6 weeks ago, we'll be breathing easy in a week or two. I'm choosing to be positive (in spite of all evidence to the contrary).

Besides, midfield help is on the way this summer(Van Brommel), hopefully. He'll fit in well at the Lane

[pething101]

I'm not worried about relegation, the team is playing dreadful but I fully expect some moments of magic or two from Robbie, Kanoute and Defoe to pull us out of it. It has been a horrible way to end a season though, spineless and incompetent.

Dears Spurs Fan,

Dont bet your season on those two.

Sincerly

West Ham fan.

[jumhed]

Dears Spurs Fan,

Dont bet your season on those two.

Sincerly

West Ham fan.

That was quite possibly the greatest post of all time. It had it all; Wisdom, pathos, and humour. Almost a haiku in the 'The Double' standard of poetry genius.