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Scotty
04 Jun 2009, 03:31 PM
Dismal display in Costa Rica opens door for criticism


If U.S. Soccer really wants to change things, it is going to have to do something risky — blow up the squad, and seek a new coach.

I'm not convinced this team is playing for Bradley right now in any case, so the latter isn't as painful as it sounds. But the former will require an effort that the organization has only been willing to make once. After finishing dead last in '98, they handed the team over to Arena, who integrated the squad, tossed people out of their comfort zones, and made clear that this was a national team, not a club side (Arena had his own problems, of course, but that's another story).

The problem is control, and U.S. Soccer, bluntly, has too many control freaks. The idea that their innate genius just might not be getting the job done, or that their tremendous development system isn't up to snuff doesn't seem to be on the table.
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9646072/Dismal-display-in-Costa-Rica-opens-door-for-criticism

bshredder
04 Jun 2009, 03:34 PM
Even when this guy is right, he's not worth quoting or even discussing.

Did anyone see his pregame article when he was talking about our roster and saying we are going to start Eddie Johnson? Give me a break. He wrote an article about the game and didn't even know the players the USA was bringing in. So why even give him any credibility?

Everyone knows we sucked last night. That doesn't take a genius to figure out. Trecker is so unreliable that it's simply not even worth paying attention to.

shooter6065
04 Jun 2009, 03:37 PM
Is Trecker going to write another article announcing the hiring of Jurgen Klinnsman?



The problem with Trecker is that even if we won 3-0 he would have said "Americans defeat weak Costa Rica", and then he would talk about how the US should always get 3 points in CONCACAF.


Trecker is a douche who always has an ax to grind with US soccer and MLS and is not even worth reading.

I'll say one thing for Trecker though. I made some $$$$$ with his accurate picks on his blog during the 2006 World Cup.

cleansheetbsc
04 Jun 2009, 03:42 PM
He probably wrote the column 2.5 years ago and has just been waiting to use it.

shooter6065
04 Jun 2009, 03:45 PM
He probably wrote the column 2.5 years ago and has just been waiting to use it.

I agree. Most of his columns used to come from the same template. But I stopped reading him a couple years ago.

Qrom
04 Jun 2009, 03:46 PM
the truth hurts. it always brings out the super defensive types.

MLSNHTOWN
04 Jun 2009, 03:59 PM
the truth hurts. it always brings out the super defensive types.

No actually, IMHO Jamie Trecker is a poor excuse of a soccer journalist who more than most other "soccer writers" cites completely and totally inaccurate information. Sometimes they are small things like players on particular games in his post game articles, but sometimes they are really bad information like the Klinnsman hiring above. We all make mistakes, Jaime just makes them more than everyone else. As a result, we have the BS Jaime Trecker Pledge:

Bigsoccer pledge - I [insert name] do solemly swear that I will never click on or read any article ever written by any so-called soccer journalist whose last name ends with Trecker. Throughout time Trecker has shown himself to be factually incorrect on several occasions, ignorant, stupid, biased, idiotic and a waste of carbon. As a result any refuse that happens to be linked on bigsoccer citing Mr. Trecker will not be read by myself or any of my fellow bigsoccer readers as long as I shall live.

Stogey23
04 Jun 2009, 04:00 PM
My head just exploded, because I agree with almost all of it.

Qrom
04 Jun 2009, 04:06 PM
No actually, IMHO Jamie Trecker is a poor excuse of a soccer journalist who more than most other "soccer writers" cites completely and totally inaccurate information. Sometimes they are small things like players on particular games in his post game articles, but sometimes they are really bad information like the Klinnsman hiring above. We all make mistakes, Jaime just makes them more than everyone else. As a result, we have the BS Jaime Trecker Pledge:

Bigsoccer pledge - I [insert name] do solemly swear that I will never click on or read any article ever written by any so-called soccer journalist whose last name ends with Trecker. Throughout time Trecker has shown himself to be factually incorrect on several occasions, ignorant, stupid, biased, idiotic and a waste of carbon. As a result any refuse that happens to be linked on bigsoccer citing Mr. Trecker will not be read by myself or any of my fellow bigsoccer readers as long as I shall live.

I really don't care what you think of him as a journalist. The fact is, is he is right. he has been right for over a year. I'd listen to what he has to say over any BS soccer apologist any day.

ty webb
04 Jun 2009, 04:10 PM
Dismal display in Costa Rica opens door for criticism


http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9646072/Dismal-display-in-Costa-Rica-opens-door-for-criticism

The truth hurts. He is correct.

We need some serious changes across the board.

superdave
04 Jun 2009, 04:13 PM
He probably wrote the column 2.5 years ago and has just been waiting to use it.
Yep.

He starts off OK, but then he starts in with the Euro loving crap. As if our worst player last night was someone other than Beasley, who has been in Yurp a long time.

ty webb
04 Jun 2009, 04:18 PM
Yep.

He starts off OK, but then he starts in with the Euro loving crap. As if our worst player last night was someone other than Beasley, who has been in Yurp a long time.

That is part of Bob's problem.

Beasley has been out of form for two years and should definitely not have been on the pitch, especially at a LB position where is weaknesses and form could be exposed.

onefineesq
04 Jun 2009, 04:21 PM
First off, Trecker gets back into this MLS vs. Americans abroad debate, which is totally off base. By my count, 7 of the starters play in Europe, 1 for a very very good Mexican side, and only 3 in the US. 2 of the 3 subs play in Europe. In all, 60% of the guys who played, play in Europe (again, with one in Mexico on an excellent team). Less than a 1/3 play in MLS. So why does he go on a diatribe about how poor the MLS players are by comparison? Seeing that most of the guys play in Europe, shouldn't he be berating them for not stepping up to the plate and performing to their potential? Our mostly European based team just got killed. Ok, now that I got THAT out, I can move on to the rest, which I mostly agreed with.

Let's look at THIS quote for example:

"Too many of the U.S. regulars look all too comfortable. The truth is, as in 1998, as many as nine men already know they have their slots lined up. As long as they don't get hit by a bus, they'll be on the plane to South Africa in 2010."

Man, aint THAT the truth! But most people here have been saying that for the last 5 years about our team, dating back to the last couple of years under Arena. Certainly not like it was to the runup to 2002, when there was a war at keeper, and at the forward slots, without even getting to the fact that Beasley and Donovan were trying their best to break into the squad along with Mastroeni. Now, we all know what will happen, regardless of how guys are playing. Hence, Beasley and Mastro now, for example.

Let's move on to another example:

"There's also a huge cultural gap. Players who go abroad realize quickly what full-time professional practices and veteran European coaches look like. They may be stunned to come back to our national team camp and run around cones. Privately, players have griped about this for years, but nothing has been done about because U.S. Soccer seems unwilling — or unable — to bring in a coach with real, top-level club and country management skills."

Well, damn. I've read it here tons of times ... if we are going to demolish the players who don't have top level experience, then why doesn't the coach get that type of scrutiny? Oh yeah, I forgot that only an American can relate to the American player. We're apparently too stupid to figure out a guy who has an accent, or maybe everyone else is too stupid to figure out anyone WITH an American accent. Either way, not good.

Charles
04 Jun 2009, 04:21 PM
So Trecker is a "poor excuse for a soccer journalist"??

Excuse me, how many "soccer journalists" do you find to actually exist in our little world? Five? Seven? How about discussing WHAT HE WROTE instead of his personality or style.

He's nailed this one, "poor excuse" or not.

cleansheetbsc
04 Jun 2009, 04:27 PM
The point about the training sessions that a US nat team coach does in comparison with a Euro club (I'm sure there is a huge difference between MLS club & euro club)team was also a wierd comment. Most Nat team sessions will be nothing like a club training session, as they are together for a very short time. I'm not sure where he is going with the "running around cones" comment.

Scotty
04 Jun 2009, 05:23 PM
Excuse me, how many "soccer journalists" do you find to actually exist in our little world? Five? Seven?

Just out of curiosity, how many of them are openly calling for Bradley to get sacked?

He's the only one that I can think of.

ty webb
04 Jun 2009, 05:27 PM
The author is correct. The team has severe issues.

MLSNHTOWN
04 Jun 2009, 05:46 PM
So Trecker is a "poor excuse for a soccer journalist"??

Excuse me, how many "soccer journalists" do you find to actually exist in our little world? Five? Seven? How about discussing WHAT HE WROTE instead of his personality or style.

He's nailed this one, "poor excuse" or not.


I REFUSE TO READ WHAT HE WROTE as it will give him hits on whatever site he is writing. I have refused to read what he writes for a couple of years now and my life is all the better for it. For every article he does well (let's just assume this is one of them), there are four that I would have to read that are awful. Feel free to keep reading him and keep enjoying him if it suits you. My opinion is that over time, his articles will come across as repetitive, incomprehensible at times, repeatedly wrong factually, and all together a waste of your time.

As far as journalists that I do like, I will read Ives, Goff, B. Fallas with the Houston Chronicle, amongst others [and they each have their positives and minuses]. Those are more my regulars, if you want to know, but there are many more I would recommend instead of Trecker.

eric
04 Jun 2009, 05:53 PM
This brings to mind Bill Maher's joke about OJ Simpson disease (the inability to hold two seemingly conflicting ideas in one's head at the same time) the cops were racist and he killed her. As it relates to trecker...


he's a major douche and he's right this time.

ty webb
04 Jun 2009, 05:59 PM
Since many of us don't read Trecker's work, can someone explain why he is not well received by some BS posters???

This article seems spot on to me.

Thanks in advance.