Fundraising site for World Soccer Daily

[Dan Loney]

http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-06-01.5674359583/groupaction_view

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[Portugeezer!]

http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-06-01.5674359583/groupaction_view

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Sounds like a good idea, it's sad that these lowlifes that are trying to kill the show have forced it to come to this.

Is it really true that they lost Who are ya designs?

[Raftastic]

http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-06-01.5674359583/groupaction_view

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I thought this forum was just about the show not about Steven and his lies.

[Portugeezer!]

I thought this forum was just about the show not about Steven and his lies.

Oh give it up already, dont like the show, then dont listen. Simple as that.

[speker]

http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-06-01.5674359583/groupaction_view

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This is the part that almost made me laugh out loud.

World Soccer Daily is the fans show, and the fans can play a part beyond their welcome participation. A donation to WSD goes directly to keeping WSD on the air, and a percentage also goes to the Hillsborough Justice Campaign. Not too long ago Cohen was saying the HJC "couldn't be more corrupt and blatantly ridiculous". And now he wants to donate money to them?

Its baffling!

[WoodyinCU]

Sounds like a good idea, it's sad that these lowlifes that are trying to kill the show have forced it to come to this.

Is it really true that they lost Who are ya designs?

Whoareya's contract ran out in June (most contracts are June-June) and they didn't re-up for business reasons. I'm sure RAWK pressure was part of it, although they weren't likely to re-up anyway because their focus has shifted towards getting into distribution with their product rather than consumer sales. That kind of growth means you allocate promotion money differently.

[Abebe]

This is the part that almost made me laugh out loud.

Not too long ago Cohen was saying the HJC "couldn't be more corrupt and blatantly ridiculous". And now he wants to donate money to them?

Its baffling!

You need to find something else to spend your time on. It is not baffling. You try to help victims through whatever channel is available to you and parsing every comment he makes is getting very tired.

[8x24]

I thought this forum was just about the show not about Steven and his lies.

Raftastic:
I am so glad that somebody from Liverpool is around to help us Americans decide what we can or cannot listen to. It is such a relief! I really appreciate the fact that instead of letting us accidently listen to WSD, and perhaps forming the wrong opinion, you fellows from Liverpool and Liverpool FC fans are working to silence the show. I know it is wrong of us Americans to use “new media” to have a soccer show, so thanks for putting us straight. It is such a relief that someone from Liverpool is working so hard to make sure we don’t accidentally hear something that is damaging to our underdeveloped brains.
I know that you have a lot on your mind now, but if have the extra time, would you mind terribly telling us who to vote for? Personally, I agree with you that freedom of choice is really overrated. It is a lot more efficient to have a few people whose job it is to study these matters and to decide for the rest of us. Good show! I never knew Liverpool fans were so helpful!

[speker]

You need to find something else to spend your time on. It is not baffling. You try to help victims through whatever channel is available to you and parsing every comment he makes is getting very tired.


What? Not sure exactly what you are saying here.

Out of one side of his mouth Cohen is calling the HJC "corrupt" and out of the other he's now apparently saying he'll donate 5% funds to the same supposedly corrupt group.

If you can't see the ambiguity in that then you need to pay more attention.:p

[Raftastic]

Whoareya's contract ran out in June (most contracts are June-June) and they didn't re-up for business reasons. I'm sure RAWK pressure was part of it, although they weren't likely to re-up anyway because their focus has shifted towards getting into distribution with their product rather than consumer sales. That kind of growth means you allocate promotion money differently.

I realise you won't allow this to stay up for long but people need to see this

Here is some correspondence from Who are Ya Designs to a supporter of WSD -

"The truth is on May 1, 2009 Steven raised our advertising rates 30%. After negotiating to a smaller package our increase was then 80%. Standard radio advertising rate increases are about 2%, and in recessions typically nil. After much consideration, we came to the conclusion we would have to raise the price of our shirts to continue to advertise on World Soccer Daily.

Because of the economy we REFUSE to raise the price of our shirts 30-80% to compensate for World Soccer Daily's price increase...I will tell you the exact same thing I told Liverpool supporters, this was a business decision...
The information you have received was incorrect and we are addressing it with the sources. I will also add that Steven Cohen was fully aware of the reason we did not choose to sign a new contract, and yet he still chose to launch a boycott against us, using you and Liverpool Supporters all the while. Nicholas Iannone, the gentleman who started the viral petition, admitted this to me in an email today. That is deplorable and unfair to all of us involved."

Steven Cohen is not only a shameful liar, he is a manipulative weasel, and Nicholas Iannone is a knowing accomplice.

DON'T GIVE THEM A CENT.

Regards,

Moki Barragan Williams
Marketing Director
Who Are Ya Designs
208.869.6697
www.whoareyadesigns.com (http://www.whoareyadesigns.com/)

"Unofficial Shirts As Clever As The Game You Support!"

So Nick has admitted to being behind a viral petition against WhoAreYaDesigns,very very shoddy way to treat a former buisness partner i am sure you will agree.

[WoodyinCU]

Out of one side of his mouth Cohen is calling the HJC "corrupt" and out of the other he's now apparently saying he'll donate 5% funds to the same supposedly corrupt group.


Or, you can see this as him changing his mind and starting to be more supportive. Wasn't that the whole point of the "Jihad, like" anyway?

[WoodyinCU]

I realise you won't allow this to stay up for long but people need to see this

Raft, I'm not this ubermensh fall in goosestep person you think I am. Stop letting your hatred of Steven bias you to everyone who doesn't agree with you. Passive agressive BS is lame. I've been polite to you in public and private, please start doing the same.


So Nick has admitted to being behind a viral petition against WhoAreYaDesigns,very very shoddy way to treat a former buisness partner i am sure you will agree.

I don't know who this Nick person is. Steven hasn't called for a WAYD boycott as far as I'm aware, but I wouldn't partake in it if he did. I don't agree with those tactics, because I'm a firm believer in the "ends don't justify the means". I condemn any and all public boycotts.

If that's Moki's reason, I support it. I won't say it's her's unless I see it directly from her, since emails can be spoofed easily (and Tony's great at it), but if it's true, they should not do business with WSD.

If you don't like the show, fine. If you don't like Steven, fine. Please don't include us in your holy war, we'll make up our own minds, thanks.

[speker]

Or, you can see this as him changing his mind and starting to be more supportive. Wasn't that the whole point of the "Jihad, like" anyway?


Jihad? Oh yeah by the Liverpool Taliban terrorists! That Jihad. :rolleyes:

Hardly a Jihad is it, though it has become a well organised effective protest against him by the looks of it.

However basically the only thing Lpool supporters are doing;

a) making very public his own comments
b) informing his sponsors aware of those disgusting comments

Woody, if Cohen could see the differences between facts and opinion this wouldn't likely be happening. He's made the problem for himself..

As for changing his mind, that would be good but the first step in the right direction would be to simply admit he's wrong.Thats all that he was asked. Either back up his statements with fact or admit he's wrong but all I heard was a half hearted apology .Then both hosts followed up on that by "having some fun" and mocking the representative of the N American supporters groups with with some type of fake northern English accents.

You've heard the same awful spiteful things I have.

[Portugeezer!]

Whoareya's contract ran out in June (most contracts are June-June) and they didn't re-up for business reasons. I'm sure RAWK pressure was part of it, although they weren't likely to re-up anyway because their focus has shifted towards getting into distribution with their product rather than consumer sales. That kind of growth means you allocate promotion money differently.

That's a shame. WSD helped them get on the map imo.

[pawn]

Stevens comments arent disgusting. This whole thing has gotten out of control.

Liverpool supporters need to get a life, and stop squishing others

[Phillyspur]

Raftastic:
I am so glad that somebody from Liverpool is around to help us Americans decide what we can or cannot listen to. It is such a relief! I really appreciate the fact that instead of letting us accidently listen to WSD, and perhaps forming the wrong opinion, you fellows from Liverpool and Liverpool FC fans are working to silence the show. I know it is wrong of us Americans to use “new media” to have a soccer show, so thanks for putting us straight. It is such a relief that someone from Liverpool is working so hard to make sure we don’t accidentally hear something that is damaging to our underdeveloped brains.
I know that you have a lot on your mind now, but if have the extra time, would you mind terribly telling us who to vote for? Personally, I agree with you that freedom of choice is really overrated. It is a lot more efficient to have a few people whose job it is to study these matters and to decide for the rest of us. Good show! I never knew Liverpool fans were so helpful!

Passive agressive BS is lame.

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[rawriter1]

I'm new to Big Soccer, mainly because I wanted to see some of the opinions on this. I was considering making a donation to the program. Based upon what I've read here, including what may or may not be Ms. Williams note, I'll continue to think about it.

But I will say this. Listening to Steven's opinion over and over again led me to say "You know what? I think I'll look into this for myself." So I did what the boycotters don't want me to do - make up my own mind based on reading the facts and deciding how I wish to proceed re the radio show.

With regard to Hillsborough, I don't see much in the Taylor Report to support Steven's contention that thousands of supporters arrived at the Leppings Lane end without tickets that day. It seems that he needs to be better acquainted with the findings in the report, and it's not very hard to do.

So he's lost advertisers to his show. I heard his statement 'closing the issue' a few weeks ago and it did seem a little forced. He can't seem to leave it alone, though, to the detriment of him and the show, apparently.

But that's where it has to stop. I went and educated myself about the tragedies and formed my own opinion. The boycotters needn't bother me anymore, nor, most importantly, need they appoint themselves to the position of deciding whether or not I get to listen to the show. That they propose to take the show away from me and thousands of others is a presumption they have no right to make in my name.

You don't need to listen to the show, nor do you need to remove it from the air to achieve a 'victory'. The host has apparently been pressured enough, by logic, loss of income, insult or outright threat, to say that the issue would no longer be addressed on the program. That they have turned to humor that has nothing directly to do with the tragedy is ok by me. Lighten up, folks.

This program is probably doing more than most outlets to be a voice for the sport in the vast American wilderness. Taking that away would set things back yet again here. If you feel that one man's (misguided) opinion is sufficient to warrant that, I for one don't agree, and I'm sure that I'm in the vast majority of listeners.

I'll make up my own mind from here, thanks. A group on Merseyside wish to determine what an American may listen to on his radio. Way out of bounds, mates. In fact, it's enough to make me go back and click on the Donate button. But remember, my choice, not yours.

Cheers to all, I look forward to enjoying Big Soccer as the desert of the offseason blows in.

RA

[speker]

Its not a group on Merseyside. Its the North American Supporters who have carried the protest as this post from the spokesman points out.

Steven keeps claiming that it is those in England who are spurring all this on. And that is far from the truth.

It is the North American Branches who are doing all the work. It is the Branches who sprung into action. It is the Branches and our supporters in North America who are the ones boycotting the advertisers. What good does someone living outside the USA mean to an advertisers selling shirts inside the USA?


And it is those in North America who did listen to his rants and lies and that is why this has all transpired. Those in England and elsewhere only support our cause because it is right and just.

The Club officially recognizing what we are doing lends credence to our actions.

So Steven is once again lying when he says this is because of those outside the USA.

He was told that there are those within the USA who were survivors of the Hillsborough disaster. It is their rage at his comments which the Branches as a whole took up. In fact, if Steven would like to come to Dallas I would be happy to introduce him to the Branch Vice President who was at Hillsborough and would very much like Steven to explain to him why he "shares responsibility" for the deaths of those on the day. And he would like to know how it is he is a hooligan hell bent on destruction.

The New York Branch also has someone who lost a son there that day and a board member for the HJC. They were immediately on the situation when Steven brought this all up again.

We heard from the LA Branch, the Tampa Branch, Boston, Vancouver Canada, and others.

My role is just to coordinate and facilitate things between the Branches so that the Branches didn't work at cross purposes and we became a unified force.

So your friends on the WSD forum and those who sign his petition or call into his show who believe Steven when he claims it is those in the UK who are behind all this are well mistaken.

But how many times can he lie about something? As many times as those who want to believe him will let him I suppose.

[Portugeezer!]

Its not a group on Merseyside. Its the North American Supporters who have carried the protest as this post from the spokesman points out.

Yeah, like you lot bought anything from the show's sponsors anyway. You people need a life. Stop crying about it and move on.

[MasterShake29]

With regard to Hillsborough, I don't see much in the Taylor Report to support Steven's contention that thousands of supporters arrived at the Leppings Lane end without tickets that day. It seems that he needs to be better acquainted with the findings in the report, and it's not very hard to do.

Just because a government official puts something in a report doesn't make it gospel. It doesn't make it automatically wrong, but it doesn't make it automatically right either.