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tpmazembe

09 Apr 2004, 11:40 AM

Based on suggestions, provided is the Draft of Drafts recap. Please share comments on http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100986 (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100986)

Round 1

Pele
Maradona
DiStefano
Cryuff
Beckenbauer
Round 2

Puskas
Baresi
Garrincha
Passarella
Moore
Round 3

Eusebio
Muller
Platini
Djalma Santos
Best
Round 4

Zidane
Maldini
Fachetti
Van Basten
Didi

Dark Savante

09 Apr 2004, 12:15 PM

And this is how the teams have panned out thus far:

Team Re-cap after 4th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane

tpmazembe

16 Apr 2004, 11:39 AM

Round 5

Rikjaard
Deschamps
Mattaus
Zico
Bozsik

Team Re-cap after 5th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi, Rikjaard
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten, Deschamps
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti, Mattaus
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini, Zico
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane, Bozsik

tpmazembe

25 Apr 2004, 01:40 AM

Round 6

Roberto Carlos
Gullit
Ronaldo
Breitner
Matthews
Team Re-cap after 5th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi, Rikjaard, Matthews
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten, Deschamps, Breitner
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti, Mattaus, Ronaldo
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini, Zico, Gullit
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane, Bozsik, R.Carlos

Dark Savante

25 Apr 2004, 08:16 AM

Now that the teams are taking shape andmost if not all are/have commited/commiting to a system analysis can begin.

Team A: I'm surprised they've gone for a flat 4 midfield! Unless Matthews is going to play as a WF in which case it'll be a 4-3-3. I like the tadem of Didi, Pele and Eusebio thru the middle, that'll be a nightmare combination for all teams to contain. I can see why Matthews has been employed as he will certainly have space to play in considering the attention that'll have to be afforded to Pele. What concerns me about the midfield is defence and actually winning the ball back. Matthews is a penertrative player and will be doing most of his work at the byline or in line with the corner of the penalty area this leaves an absolute acre of space in behind him if the ball is lost. Now if RC is the opposing LB the ball could forseeably be at team A's penatly area in 11 or so seconds of a sprint! I have an idea of the perfect RB for the team to back Matthews I wonder if they'll pick him.
Moore for all his precision and sublime tackling skill is going to need some pace around him so he can actually track forwards and do his stuff. I'm pretty sure team A will have to add a LW for width or have an unbalanced and side dependant midfield, if they use a LB for that duty they risk exposing Moore. Of the utter top tier of LW's I can think of there is not much defensive duty amongst them..that's going to make Didi and his partners job very hard.
Obviously I can't bring Rijkaard into the equation yet because you could play him in the midfield or alongside Moore. Right now I think this team is devestating in attack with the potential to pin teams back, but very vunerable to the counter and with the potentil to be strecthed thru midfield by the right combination of players. The defence they finally assemble should be interesting.

Team B: Two big shocks from them so far. Deschamps, when others were available and going for a double #9 system. I'm sure incisive midfield precision passer will be the order of the day to feed those goal hungry #9's with the crosses/flights coming in from the Wingbacks. The play is going to have to be built up via the midfield because those two upfront aren't looking to split defences with incisive passing between themselves. Maybe that gives other teams the chance to conentrate more on their jobs.. opposed to say a Pele - Eusebio combination...maybe?
The defence looks aggresive and persistant and Brietner is a fantastic lateral to have as he'll run and supply all day and be a goal - threat, If you get a RB with the same prowess as Breitner your system is going to be very effective with supply line and goal threats from numerous positions. I can't see you deviating from a diamond midfield due to a lack of height between Maradona and Deschamps and also not wanting to stifle Maradona with defensive duties so your midfielders are going to need to be quite solid and technically sound. What I like about this team is that you're always a threat without even having to do anything. Your strikers can pull CB's all over the place and open channels for Maradona to run into.
I don't see a particular weakness except the over reliance on Maradona to produce when/if your strikers are not getting the ball. Certain teams wont feel threatened playing a very high defensive line against your forwards because on a straight run to goal they are likely to be stopped. The midfielders you take are going to be decisive. Maradona needs assistance!

Team C: Now! Team C, It's hard to know what they are up to. The only team that doesn't seem to have a CB! I doubt Fachetti is going to played away from the LB spot so I'm wondering what kind of defence they are looking for.. a containing one or an attacking/aggresive one? There attack is devestating. Garrincha, Platini, Ronaldo and DiStefano is a team designed to hurt the opposition. They have the most straight up match winners of any team so far, but aren't neccessarily out in front on points. I really like the 4 man tandem as each player offers something different. Platini'
s thru balls and opportunism, Garrincha's dribbling and ability to cut in field with his left foot. I'm sure they will take an equally skilful player for the left side of midfield to have four goal scoring threats from all four midfield positions. I'd wager he'll be an excellent crosser of the ball so that DiStefano is fully optimised. I like the fact each player has a precision finish also. It forces other defences into action. In certain aspects Team A and Team C have the same issues to address. Garrincha and Matthews are perhaps the most devestating RW/Wf's ever but they both leave you with the problem of backing them up. Garrincha will have no D.Santos behind him! and there is no equal for the right lateral spot so as with team A I want to see what you come up with.
With such a midfield I wouldn't be surprised if you create a solid backline who aren't neccessarily required to help out in attack. Your defence will define you!

Team D: I'm very happy with how our team is shaping up. It's quite obvious we have a diamond midfield but because of the laterals we have width will never be a problem. barring a miracle we will have the best defence of the draft, but our rhythm will be defined by our DM. It's an essential position for us and I really liked the selection of Boszik by team E. We have the most moverability between our midfield so far as Cruyff and Gullit can play anywhere and Zico is comfortable out on the right or in the hole. Our strikers will make or break us...

Team E: Team E have created a fascinating team which is probably the most flexible so far. I personally feel playing Beckenbauer alongsiide Boszik would be the killer move of the draft...If you can back them up with two awesome CB's. It's hard to even tell if they will go for a more penetrative #10 and put Zidane on the left or slot Zidane in the hole and let others run around him. R.Carlos presents a unique problem for all teams his stamina and speed is going to be a nightmare to contain, but will they play it so that he can be exploited in behind...I am most interested in seeing whom they pair Puskas with but I also want to see what they do with that midfield.

More later! :D

tpmazembe

30 Apr 2004, 01:57 PM

Round 7

Bergomi
Cafu
Varela
Neeskens
Desailly
Team Re-cap after 7th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi, Rikjaard, Matthews, Bergomi
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten, Deschamps, Breitner, Cafu
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti, Mattaus, Ronaldo, Varela
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini, Zico, Gullit, Neeskens
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane, Bozsik, R.Carlos, Desailly

tpmazembe

07 May 2004, 03:35 PM

Round 8

Thuram
Krol
Czibor
Tardelli
Gento
Team Re-cap after 8th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi, Rikjaard, Matthews, Bergomi, Gento
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten, Deschamps, Breitner, Cafu, Tardelli
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti, Mattaus, Ronaldo, Varela, Czibor
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini, Zico, Gullit, Neeskens, Krol
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane, Bozsik, R.Carlos, Desailly, Thuram

tpmazembe

14 May 2004, 05:50 PM

Round 9

Vogts
Yashin
Santamaria
Banks
Koscic
Team Re-cap after 9th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi, Rikjaard, Matthews, Bergomi, Gento, Vogts
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten, Deschamps, Breitner, Cafu, Tardelli, Yashin
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti, Mattaus, Ronaldo, Varela, Czibor, Santamaria
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini, Zico, Gullit, Neeskens, Krol, Banks
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane, Bozsik, R.Carlos, Desailly, Thuram, Koscic

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tpmazembe

21 May 2004, 05:02 PM

Round 10

Schmeichel
Maier
Overath
Ruggeri
Marzolini
Team Re-cap after 10th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi, Rikjaard, Matthews, Bergomi, Gento, Vogts, Marzolini
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten, Deschamps, Breitner, Cafu, Tardelli, Yashin, Ruggeri
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti, Mattaus, Ronaldo, Varela, Czibor, Santamaria, Maier
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini, Zico, Gullit, Neeskens, Krol, Banks, Overath
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane, Bozsik, R.Carlos, Desailly, Thuram, Koscic, Schmeichel

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Dark Savante

28 May 2004, 03:56 PM

Round 11

Zoff
B.Charlton
Amoros
Figueroa
Romario
Team Re-cap after 11th Round:

TEAM A : Pele, Moore, Eusebio, Didi, Rikjaard, Matthews, Bergomi, Gento, Vogts, Marzolini, Zoff
TEAM B : Maradona, Passarella, G.Muller, VanBasten, Deschamps, Breitner, Cafu, Tardelli, Yashin, Ruggeri, B.Charlton
TEAM C : DiStefano, Garrincha, Platini, Fachetti, Mattaus, Ronaldo, Varela, Czibor, Santamaria, Maier, Amoros
TEAM D : Cryuff, Baresi, Dj.Santos, Maldini, Zico, Gullit, Neeskens, Krol, Banks, Overath, Romario
TEAM E : Beckenbauer, Puskas, Best, Zidane, Bozsik, R.Carlos, Desailly, Thuram, Koscic, Schmeichel, Figueroa

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update as requested by tpmazembe.

lanman

28 May 2004, 04:32 PM

Some stats on the teams

Team A
Caps Goals
Pele 92 77
Moore 108 2
Eusebio 64 41
Didi 68 20
Rijkaard 73 10
Matthews54 12
Bergomi 81 6
Gento 43 5
Vogts 96 1
Marzolini 28 0
Zoff 112 0

Total 819 174
Average 74.45 15.82

lanman

28 May 2004, 04:32 PM

Team B
Caps Goals
Maradona 91 34
Passarella 70 22
Muller 62 68
Van Basten 58 24
Deschamps 103 4
Breitner 48 10
Cafu 124 5
Tardelli 81 6
Yashin 79 0
Ruggeri 97 7
Charlton 106 49

919 229
83.55 20.82

lanman

28 May 2004, 04:33 PM

Team C
Caps Goals
DiStefano 37 29
Garrincha 50 12
Platini 72 41
Fachetti 94 3
Matthaus 150 23
Ronaldo 77 50
Varela 49 10
Czibor 43 17
Santamaria 20 0
Maier 95 0
Amoros 82 1

769 186
69.91 16.91

lanman

28 May 2004, 04:34 PM

Team D
Caps Goals
Cruyff 48 33
Baresi 81 1
D.Santos 98 3
Maldini 126 7
Zico 71 48
Gullit 66 17
Neeskens 49 17
Krol 83 4
Banks 73 0
Overath 81 17
Romario 69 54

845 201
76.82 18.27

lanman

28 May 2004, 04:34 PM

Team E
Caps Goals
Beckenbauer 103 14
Puskas 89 84
Best 37 9
Zidane 87 22
Bozsik 101 11
R.Carlos 102 8
Desailly 114 3
Thuram 97 2
Kocsis 68 75
Schmeichel 129 1
Figueroa 47 2

974 231
88.55 21.00

minorthreat

08 Jun 2004, 02:56 PM

Substitutes so far: (3 per team)

Team E: John Charles, Juan Schiaffino, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
Team D: Mattias Sammer, Sir Tom Finney, Gunnar Nordahl
Team C: Domingos da Guia, Gunter Netzer, Jose Manuel Moreno

minorthreat

08 Jun 2004, 03:46 PM

Teso Dos Bichos

02 Feb 2005, 10:55 PM

For the lazy amongst us... :D

argentine soccer fan

05 Feb 2005, 01:12 PM

uamiranda

28 Jan 2009, 08:28 PM

Far be it from me to talk smack. But after watching 'Pele Eterno' I am convinced more than ever that team 'A' kicks everybodys butt. First of all, sorry for digging this thread after almost 4 years (the main one is already closed), but it's simply amazing! Congratulation, guys...And thanks God I was advised for it... :) What a pity I got late 4 years... :(

BTW, the teams are really well balanced, although I think some names were missed (C. Alberto out, Cafu in, is just an example, but it's a matter of personal choice - group, in this case). And, not for the same reason of ASF, I believe team A is the strongest...

Another point: where are Team B's subs? What if Maradona gets injured? :rolleyes: