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FCPorto_Dragao
30 May 2009, 03:20 PM
I was just watching CBC's exclusive presentation of the 1986 FIFA World Cup and specfically, the match between France and Brazil in the quarter finals that went to penalty kicks after 1-1 in regulation and extra time.

A French player stepped up, hit the post, rebounded, and hit the Brazilian keeper in the back, and rolled into the net. This got me thinking...during regular play in 90 minutes or extra time, no doubt, this goal would be valid as the play continues immediately after the penalty is taken, much like a set piece. However, considering penalty kicks are a one-off chance at scoring, should the play have stopped once the ball hit the post, or is the goal indeed valid after it hit the woodwork, and then the keeper to enter the goal?

colins1993
30 May 2009, 04:32 PM
They have changed the interpretation since then.

Now the ball must complete or spend its momentum. I can't recall the exact wording.

campbed
30 May 2009, 10:06 PM
There is no quandary, your answer from USSF awaits here:

http://www.askasoccerreferee.com/?p=365

There was a FLURRY of proposal and wording change to Law 14 in 1987 specifically designed to determine when a penalty kick was completed. For those lawyerly and bookworm types, the IFAB minutes await you at this link:

http://ssbra.org/html/laws/IFABarc/pdf/1987/1987un.pdf

State Cup Finals in the morning, I wonder if this will come up?

o5iiawah
31 May 2009, 08:17 AM
During a match, the act of taking a penalty kick (and all its seperate requirements) is over when the referee decides it to be over.

I believe during KFTM that the kick is done when the ball has exhausted any momentum that may carry it towards the net. Basically, I believe you can score on a rebound off the post which hits an unlucky diving keeper.

A ball which hits one post, travels along the top of the goal line under the crossbar and between the posts, then rebounds off the 2nd post and goes in would still be a goal despite the ball no longer traveling "forward" after the first rebound.