Respecting Ref? important or no?

[Matt_G]

Hey i just got back from a game where it was obvious that the refs were playing in favor of the other team. All throughout the game i observed my coach cursing at the refs and telling them they made bad calls etc etc. So it got me thinking can showing respect to a ref or lack of it change the outcome of a game? FYI we lost the game 11-4 it was an indoor game btw... Thanks i just wanted to vent this a bit after my anger at the team

[Gunners11]

Well if ur in Chicago which dome were u at. Some of the Chicago-area places are dumps with crappy officials, who dont care if you talk or not, but in general, refs deserve and should get respect.

[Matt_G]

I was at a local park distract dome... it is a very small league made up of 6 teams all are schools from around my area... The two refs were Lithunian one had a long ass pony tail...

[McBride_Fan8]

I play way up in Alaska, and most of the refs aren't even certafied. I have always though refs deserve your respect(I am one too), but if they make bad calls and it turns the game my competitiveness get the best of me. If it's just one call it doesn't get me too bad, but if they are very inconsistant I tend to show some disrespect and have been carded for it.

[Andraay]

I would say it depends... I was sent off in my first competitive match in highschool after the ref thought I tripped someone in the box, even though the person who fell had admitted right away that he slipped on his own... i initially got the yellow and I walked away to moan at MY TEAMMATES (not the ref) and then saw red! What an idiot... Some refs are too card snappy and it's hard to respect them.

[Gordon EF]

Wheather the ref deserves respect or not, you have to give it to them. Because, you're showing disrespect to your teammates if you go mouthing off at the ref and get yourself sent off.

Everybody has to learn that a player cannot change a ref's mind after the decision has been made, so just get on with it.

Having said that, when the adrenline is flowing during the game, it can be infuriating when a ref makes stupid decision and it's hard not to have a wee go.

[Andraay]

i initially got the yellow and I walked away to moan at MY TEAMMATES (not the ref) and then saw red!

Note: I was talking to my teammates about it, and not to the ref...

[Sky_]

He must have thought you were talking behind his back. That does piss one off...

[Dr. Wankler]

Train yourself so that the referee doesn't bother you one way or the other. If you get a call you don't like, treat it the same way you would if your shot goes wide or hits someone on the way to the net: keep your mouth shut and get into position for the developing play. That will help you keep your head in the game, and not on issues of justice and fairness (not to mention revenge), etc.

In matches where you think you're getting screwed, try to treat it like one of those games where your team hits the post several times, dominates the attack, and has less to show for it than the team you're dominating. Those things happen in soccer, and they have a way of balancing out, moreso if your team doesn't get the reputation among refs for being whiners.

When I coached U-16 teams, both in rural Minnesota and in Chicago, I would have a "ref" come in for a formal scrimmage or two (either intra-squad or friendly). I would ask them to make five or six horrifically bad calls in the first half on things like throw-ins, shoulder charges, etc., just to test my players. At half-time, that's one of the things I'd evaluate them on. I'd have the guy make a few more bad ones in the second half just to see how the players did. It helped tremendously during the real season. Never had a card against us for dissent in the 4 years I did that.

[dasoccerplayafosho]

I would say it depends... I was sent off in my first competitive match in highschool after the ref thought I tripped someone in the box, even though the person who fell had admitted right away that he slipped on his own... i initially got the yellow and I walked away to moan at MY TEAMMATES (not the ref) and then saw red! What an idiot... Some refs are too card snappy and it's hard to respect them.

personally (nothing against you) I would have shown you the red too. You have a right to think that way though, but in a referees eyes, I couldnt understand this while i was playing (and sometimes act like I still choose not to) thought that if dissing the ref wasnt to his face, it wasnt dissing him, but after I started doing both, you ripping on a refs pride is like making fun of a player or saying, "oh my gosh, I can't beleive you did that" when a player makes a bad pass. In a refs eyes, dissing his calls is dissing his calls, no matter how u do it.

[Andraay]

The thing I was so pissed about was, even though the opposition player admitted that he slipped, the ref still didn't change his mind. If you guys think I did much wrong, then I don't get why you couldn't think the ref should have recognised his mistake. Are referees that holy that they shouldn't be faulted and can't be questioned even if there is overwhelming evidence?

That experience actually made me not to talk to refs in games, never got into trouble again!

[Sky_]

But you did stick out your foot? Even if the guy did slip, your action was dangerous and that's what probably earned you the yellow. If you didn't, then the ref must have decided he was going to card you, and he stuck to his decision. If the ref is undecisive, or changes his mind often, then he is not a good ref, he succumbs easily to pressure and everyone will jump on his ass everytime he blows the whistle. Professionals make mistakes all the time.

[Andraay]

But you did stick out your foot? Even if the guy did slip, your action was dangerous and that's what probably earned you the yellow. If you didn't, then the ref must have decided he was going to card you, and he stuck to his decision. If the ref is undecisive, or changes his mind often, then he is not a good ref, he succumbs easily to pressure and everyone will jump on his ass everytime he blows the whistle. Professionals make mistakes all the time.

Nope, I was just like having my side to the opposition player and not even shoulder to shoulder with him. We weren't even close to the goal, like at the right edge of the box.

[Benvolio]

I always tell my Gaffer to be quiet when he's having a go at the ref, as obviously, the more grief you give him, the less he will want to give your team free-kicks etc...