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Mobile
02 Apr 2004, 04:02 AM
Now I know there is a difference between real English and the garbled jargon that the Yanks spew forth. But why insist on inventing a whole new set of words to describe football? WHY??! There is perfectly good terminology to describe every fact of the beautiful game, without turning into the sort of pantomime farce which permeates all American sports.

"Freddy Adu can do just about anything he wants with a soccer ball, including fake much older players right out of their cleats."

What?

WHAT???!!??

Just what in god's name are you talking about? Why can't you just use the same words as everyone else?

Christ, it's enough to make you weep.

http://www.election.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/25/60minutes/main608681.shtml

afgrijselijkheid
02 Apr 2004, 04:50 AM
no.... but apparently it is enough to draw tears from you - maybe you'd feel better if you ate your bangers in the loo?

johan neeskens
02 Apr 2004, 05:00 AM
Now I know there is a difference between real English and the garbled jargon that the Yanks spew forth. But why insist on inventing a whole new set of words to describe football? WHY??! There is perfectly good terminology to describe every fact of the beautiful game, without turning into the sort of pantomime farce which permeates all American sports.

"Freddy Adu can do just about anything he wants with a soccer ball, including fake much older players right out of their cleats."

What?

WHAT???!!??

Just what in god's name are you talking about? Why can't you just use the same words as everyone else?

Christ, it's enough to make you weep.

http://www.election.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/25/60minutes/main608681.shtml

I have no idea what that means even.

afgrijselijkheid
02 Apr 2004, 05:03 AM
oh my god! it is so difficult! a lil help...

soccer = football
cleats = boots

now do i need to explain any other words? anyhting? older?

Winston Smith
02 Apr 2004, 05:51 AM
oh my god! it is so difficult! a lil help...

soccer = football
cleats = boots

now do i need to explain any other words? anyhting? older?

What is it with you being the sole dutch yank apologist?

afgrijselijkheid
02 Apr 2004, 05:56 AM
What is it with you being the sole dutch yank apologist?


i am american

and as far as being an apologist? trust me, no one criticizes the US more than me when it is appropriate... which is disturbingly often

When Hell Unfreezes
02 Apr 2004, 06:01 AM
[QUOTE=bluedaddy19]oh my god! it is so difficult! a lil help...



anyhting? QUOTE]

And you were being picky about Magpie's Haiti??? :)

johan neeskens
02 Apr 2004, 06:03 AM
oh my god! it is so difficult! a lil help...

soccer = football
cleats = boots

now do i need to explain any other words? anyhting? older?

How do you fake someone out of their boots?

afgrijselijkheid
02 Apr 2004, 06:10 AM
[QUOTE=bluedaddy19]oh my god! it is so difficult! a lil help...



anyhting? QUOTE]

And you were being picky about Magpie's Haiti??? :)


its called a typo - we can't all be perfect like you :rolleyes:


How do you fake someone out of their boots?


it's an expression meaning you beat a defender in such fashion that he came out of his boots - another similar expression for the same thing is "he undressed the defender", usually used in ice hockey

Mobile
02 Apr 2004, 06:25 AM
its called a typo - we can't all be perfect like you :rolleyes:





it's an expression meaning you beat a defender in such fashion that he came out of his boots - another similar expression for the same thing is "he undressed the defender", usually used in ice hockey

But why? Why make up a whole new set of words, or apply the ridiculous terminology of US sports to football? There already exists a set of phrases, words and expressions to describe football players and their actions. Why do you have to try and pervert the game for your own nefarious purposes? WHY?????????????

afgrijselijkheid
02 Apr 2004, 06:29 AM
But why? Why make up a whole new set of words, or apply the ridiculous terminology of US sports to football? There already exists a set of phrases, words and expressions to describe football players and their actions. Why do you have to try and pervert the game for your own nefarious purposes? WHY?????????????


yes youre right... somehow US announcers should forget all of the phrases theyve used their whole life and start acting as if they were from another country... should they fake accents too?

here's a question for ya... why do you have to piggyback on every nauseatingly redundant weakass thread simply because it (tee hee) takes a shot at americans? WHY??????????

Mobile
02 Apr 2004, 06:33 AM
yes youre right... somehow US announcers should forget all of the phrases theyve used their whole life and start acting as if they were from another country... should they fake accents too?

How about getting some announcers/sports writers that actually know something about the game and are able to talk/write about it using accepted football terminology? Or are the US public too slack-jawed and stupid to understand something that doesn't conform to their sense of dumbed-down, sensationalist, superficial sports coverage?

here's a question for ya... why do you have to piggyback on every nauseatingly redundant weakass thread simply because it (tee hee) takes a shot at americans? WHY??????????

Piggyback? I started the thread you mong. But to answer your question, I like taking cheap shots at Yanks because I'm lazy and you lot are such an easy target.

When Hell Unfreezes
02 Apr 2004, 06:45 AM
here's a question for ya... why do you have to piggyback on every nauseatingly redundant weakass thread simply because it (tee hee) takes a shot at americans? WHY??????????


Tad insecure bluebaby??? :(

chocolate
02 Apr 2004, 06:49 AM
I have no idea what that means even.
what a shami i understood!! does this mean kuwaities know more american slang then u wiggaz?

Winston Smith
02 Apr 2004, 06:58 AM
Translation:

UK - US

Football - Soccer (girl's sport, unamerican, communist etc. etc.) aka futbol?
Formation - Scrimmage
Boots - Cleats
Pitch - Field
Goalkeeper - Netminder
Striker - Sniper?
Defender - Deefensive player
Goal line - End zone
Netball (girl's sport) - Basketball
Rounders (kid's sport) - Baseball
100 million - 1 billion
Manager - Coach
National champions - World Champions

And as for the history, the NFL started it when they pulled away from rugby union. Scrum - scrimmage, line back - quarter back, drop goal - field goal, ad infinitum. What is it with you guys?

And on, and on...

Matt Clark
02 Apr 2004, 07:02 AM
yes youre right... somehow US announcers should forget all of the phrases theyve used their whole life and start acting as if they were from another country... should they fake accents too?

But the readily available alternative of "that kid is so good trying to mark him could twist the blood in your veins" is so much better. I mean, SO much better. Fake out of cleats?

There's no excuse for what Americans do to the mother tongue.

afgrijselijkheid
02 Apr 2004, 07:14 AM
How about getting some announcers/sports writers that actually know something about the game and are able to talk/write about it using accepted football terminology? Or are the US public too slack-jawed and stupid to understand something that doesn't conform to their sense of dumbed-down, sensationalist, superficial sports coverage?


look... we obviously do not have a plethora of football announcers in the states and nobody like the ones we have anyway - so file this one in the DUH! cabinet

at the same time, its just retarded to expect someone to completely alter their vocabulary because they are referring to something foreign



Piggyback? I started the thread you mong. But to answer your question, I like taking cheap shots at Yanks because I'm lazy and you lot are such an easy target.


ummm do you know what piggyback means? for a piggyback to occur, one person jumps on the back of another person - so you see piggybacking entails the first person (you) AND the second person (him) - so he is travel by piggyback here (or piggybacking on the thread you started)

hint: when using stupid smack, its best to display that your IQ at least rivals your hat size


"that kid is so good trying to mark him could twist the blood in your veins"


who the hell says that? i've never heard something so ridiculous in my whole life

again i say, its mind numbing that you bunch of bitches whine all the time that americans expect everyone to do as they do... and then you come in here and expect people to use terminology they've never heard before to descibe - americans don't say 'boots', they say 'cleats' - they dont say 'beat the man', they say 'fake' or 'deke'... maybe the problem is your brain this time

Matt Clark
02 Apr 2004, 07:16 AM
No, sorry. We insist you use the proper terminology. It's a matter of principle.

Matt Clark
02 Apr 2004, 07:17 AM
But whilst we are in a defining sort of a mood, who fancies a pop at defining the phrase "wind up" for Bluedaddy? :p

afgrijselijkheid
02 Apr 2004, 07:25 AM
Translation:

UK - US

Football - Soccer (girl's sport, unamerican, communist etc. etc.) aka futbol?
Formation - Scrimmage
Defender - Deefensive player
Boots - Cleats
Pitch - Field
Goalkeeper - Netminder
Striker - Sniper?
Goal line - End zone
Netball (girl's sport) - Basketball
Rounders (kid's sport) - Baseball
100 million - 1 billion
Manager - Coach
National champions - World Champions

And as for the history, the NFL started it when they pulled away from rugby union. Scrum - scrimmage, line back - quarter back, drop goal - field goal, ad infinitum. What is it with you guys?

And on, and on...


let me help you out here genius


soccer - yep and you invented the damn word so whats the problem other than americans say it? still waiting for the first 'why do those stupid australians say soccer' thread...

scrimmage does not mean formation at all - scrimmage is the same as training match - americans say formation

americans say defender - i mean really, a 10-year old would spot that one was stupid

cleats? field? yep we say that (although some say pitch)

netminder is difficult to understand or strange somehow? i'd say thats just as good and it rolls off the tongue nicely

americans say striker, or forward - sniper refers to a specific type of player that shoots very well - that term is really an ice hockey term actually

i understand the world champion beef, but lets be realistic... is there a baseball, basketball or american football club anywhere that could even give the most remote challenge - the closest would likely be japanese baseball, but ummm... nah

finally, the piece de resistance (a foreign phrase!):

NEWSFLASH: 100 million and a billion are not the same number - one billion consists of 1,000 million

but if you ever become a billionaire, let me know so i can apply to be your accountant