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bigbrooklynlou
28 Oct 2004, 01:19 PM
Where is the conference area to post for friendlies? How do you join it? Is it me or searching for conferences is a bit complicated

kuhnscoot
28 Oct 2004, 01:42 PM
Where is the conference area to post for friendlies? How do you join it? Is it me or searching for conferences is a bit complicated

Under the community sub category on the right, there are 4 categories, mail box, federations, community, conferences

Under the conferences section, there should be a sneak-peek link, and an ads link, click on the ads link. Once there, there will be a small drop down screen to go to either friendly ads, or transfer ads, go to the friendly ads, and post the kind of friendly you are looking for.

Helghallen
28 Oct 2004, 02:31 PM
Where is the conference area to post for friendlies? How do you join it? Is it me or searching for conferences is a bit complicated
Yes.

Craig P
28 Oct 2004, 06:41 PM
You can't always draw conlcusions from this kind of results.

The Hattrick matchengine might work a little different than you think. Fifteen minutes before the match starts, the outcome is calculated using the teams' ratings. After that, the goals are awarded randomly to their respective minutes.
In other words: it could just as well have been 0-6 after 45 minutes, after which you'd have come back to 5-6 :)I'm not sure that's an accurate characterization, considering that the engine does allow for time evolution of ratings due to stamina, players sent off or injured, confusion, weather events, and team experience events.

johno
28 Oct 2004, 11:32 PM
Question... should i play a passable striker with passable form over a solid striker with inad form?

Also... had a trainee pop to formidable.. he has crappy secondaries should I keep him or sell him... he is 21 and is an IM thoughts? I would not find it too hard to replace him with someone off the bench. How much could i expect to get for him? he has passable stam. and wretched/poor everything else

Craig P
29 Oct 2004, 01:16 AM
Question... should i play a passable striker with passable form over a solid striker with inad form?That's iffy -- experience and secondaries may play into it. All other things being equal, I think one level of form is not enough to beat a level of skill, the rule of thumb is two levels of form equal one level of skill. Although stars are evil, they can be helpful here, sometimes the rule of thumb is a little off.

Helghallen
29 Oct 2004, 07:07 AM
And to answer your second question about the IM. Maybe 500-750K. Try putting him up for the higher amount and seeing if he sells. If not, use the lower amount. At 21, he is kind of old and his primary skill level isn't really high enough to continue to train. Just my $.02.

johno
29 Oct 2004, 08:23 AM
Thanx both of you... 2 great answers to exactly the questions I ask... you should both be professors ;)

I will act on both the more experienced and skilled striker will start despite his form with the youngun coming off the bench in case of injury. I wish we could set up subs in case of no injury at a certain point in the game.

And my Formidable PM is going to be listed at 750k right now... If I get that much it will allow me to expand stadium, buy a really good trainee (really good by my standards), and have enough money left to upgrade my team in case of injury/suspension.

Danks81
29 Oct 2004, 01:13 PM
I've read that scoring for midfielders does not matter. Is this true or a load of BS? For instance, all other things considered equal, should a IM with inad scoring be expected to score more than one with wretched scoring?

Helghallen
29 Oct 2004, 02:01 PM
I've read that scoring for midfielders does not matter. Is this true or a load of BS? For instance, all other things considered equal, should a IM with inad scoring be expected to score more than one with wretched scoring?
I have heard conflicting stories about this. Since the goal scorer is essentially determined randomly, but weighted toward forwards receiving credit I would agree with the first part of your statement. But some forward trainers I know seem to think that having inadequate or higher scoring for a mid makes them score more goals.

kuhnscoot
29 Oct 2004, 02:37 PM
I have heard conflicting stories about this. Since the goal scorer is essentially determined randomly, but weighted toward forwards receiving credit I would agree with the first part of your statement. But some forward trainers I know seem to think that having inadequate or higher scoring for a mid makes them score more goals.

I've heard both sides as well, all I can say, is that two seasons ago, I had an IM with wretched scoring get a hattrick and end up second on the team in goals. So take that for what you will.

Craig P
30 Oct 2004, 12:07 AM
I've read that scoring for midfielders does not matter. Is this true or a load of BS? For instance, all other things considered equal, should a IM with inad scoring be expected to score more than one with wretched scoring?It may be that the IM will score more, but it is unlikely that your team will score more. He'll just get more of the distribution of goals -- with an exception:

If he's got any set pieces, then having the scoring could be helpful because he could strike for a long shot special event goal.

Dynamo Salem
30 Oct 2004, 12:12 AM
OK here is a question.

On the game summery, on the right column there are some ratings of some kind: left wing poor (very poor)

What does this mean?

Craig P
30 Oct 2004, 12:17 AM
It's an absolute measure of the quality of your left wing attacks. This is what the match engine uses (compared with your opponent's right defense rating) to figure out whether you score a goal when an attack is allocated to your left wing.

You can look in one of the appendices to the rules (entitled "denominations") to see how the ratings scale from lowest to highest.

(The value there is an average over the whole match, the rating can change during the match due to injury or ejection of a player.)

CrewDust
30 Oct 2004, 12:43 AM
NEwbie question: Are rosters limited 18 players? And when people talk about trainees are these apart of the youth teams?

CrewDust
30 Oct 2004, 01:16 AM
NEwbie question: Are rosters limited 18 players? And when people talk about trainees are these apart of the youth teams?

skip the roster question

kuhnscoot
30 Oct 2004, 01:47 AM
NEwbie question: Are rosters limited 18 players? And when people talk about trainees are these apart of the youth teams?

Skipping the roster limit one like you said, the trainees are youth players, usually between the ages of 17 and 21. These players play with your first team or in friendlies and go up in skills. They come from your youth system, or from someone elses if you transfer them in.

johno
30 Oct 2004, 07:51 AM
To add to that... you buy trainess who play in the skill you are training... for example... if you are training scoring you would pick up 17-21 yr olds who have decent scoring and possibly a good secondary like passing (this is not what you are focussed on, its a bonus). The idea is, these guys are younger and they will train, or upgrade their skill in the area they are being trained in faster than any other players.

The aim of the game is to train trainees to the point where they are valuable to other teams and sell them in order to beef up your team in areas that you are weak in... for example I train playmaking which is a skill for inner midfielders... my inner midfielders are actually all young and all good for my league but my strikers are not that great. When I get some serious cash I will spend it on a striker or two or perhaps a defender or two.

kuhnscoot
30 Oct 2004, 11:15 AM
A final add on to what he said, you wanna train trainees til they hit 21 or so, you'd don't wanna buy them then. You wanna buy trainees usually somewhere in the 17-18 year old range.

Helghallen
30 Oct 2004, 11:28 AM
A final add on to what he said, you wanna train trainees til they hit 21 or so, you'd don't wanna buy them then. You wanna buy trainees usually somewhere in the 17-18 year old range.\

Unless you are buying a high level player. Perhaps buying magnificent skill player at that age. Course, most of us are not in a position to do that.

And the other reason to train past that age is if you aren't planning on selling him, if for instance you are training him for national team duty.