Bit of a Bookkeeping Question

[CornellBigRed]

Say I give out 3 yellows and one 2nd yellow/red to one team, how would that be annotated? Would it be 3 cautions and an ejection or 4 cautions and an ejection? Thanks

[MassachusettsRef]

Say I give out 3 yellows and one 2nd yellow/red to one team, how would that be annotated? Would it be 3 cautions and an ejection or 4 cautions and an ejection? ThanksAnnotated where?

Assuming a match report, then it's 4 cautions and an ejection. A sample would be:

8' - caution - team A - player BCD - UB.1.a (reckless charge)
33' - caution - team A - player EFG - UB.1.a (reckless kick)
56' - caution - team A - player HIJ - DT.2.a (visual dissent)
77' - caution - team A - player BCD - UB.1.c (tactical hold)
77' - send off - team A - player BCD - 2CT (second caution)


If you're talking about how it should be annotated statistically (whether a player sent off for two yellows has been given 2 or 3 cards), that's really up to the league in question and isn't a refereeing matter.

[falcon.7]

If you're talking about how it should be annotated statistically (whether a player sent off for two yellows has been given 2 or 3 cards), that's really up to the league in question and isn't a refereeing matter.

Not related to USSF matches, but for one read on how leagues tally cautions and send-offs, read the part of the NCAA rulebook on such. It's like 2 pages long.

My book from yesterday:
41'-Home #7-C (UB)
42'-Home #13-R (VC)
42'-Away #11-R (VC)
45'-Away #2-C (UB)
51'-Away #6-C (UB)
53'-Home #7-C (UB)
53'-Home #7-R (2CT)
53'-Away #6-C (UB)
53'-Away #6-R (2CT)
68'-Away #7-C (UB)
78'-Home #8-C (UB)
80'-Away #3-R (AL)

[hefftheref]

Not related to USSF matches, but for one read on how leagues tally cautions and send-offs, read the part of the NCAA rulebook on such. It's like 2 pages long.

My book from yesterday:
41'-Home #7-C (UB)
42'-Home #13-R (VC)
42'-Away #11-R (VC)
45'-Away #2-C (UB)
51'-Away #6-C (UB)
53'-Home #7-C (UB)
53'-Home #7-R (2CT)
53'-Away #6-C (UB)
53'-Away #6-R (2CT)
68'-Away #7-C (UB)
78'-Home #8-C (UB)
80'-Away #3-R (AL)
man, looks like you were pretty busy! :)

[USSF REF]

Report both cautions because that is what gives you the authority and requires you to send the player off. You can't report a player has been sent off for 2C if you don't first report the misconduct offenses for both cautions.

[CornellBigRed]

Thanks for the responses, they were very helpful.

[DWickham]

Note: some leagues don't want the second caution reported separately as a caution. Instead, the report would indicate in the X minute, home player number 6 was cautioned for dissent and in the Y minute, home player Y sent off for receiving a second caution in the match for unsporting behavior. Detailing in each what Y did.

This is because these leagues track accumulated cautions, and suspend a player on the xth caution. They don't include in the count a second caution received in a match because that already carried a suspension.

In the absence of a league rule, however, I agree with the answers above.

[nsa]

Note: some leagues don't want the second caution reported separately as a caution. Instead, the report would indicate in the X minute, home player number 6 was cautioned for dissent and in the Y minute, home player Y sent off for receiving a second caution in the match for unsporting behavior. Detailing in each what Y did.

This is because these leagues track accumulated cautions, and suspend a player on the xth caution. They don't include in the count a second caution received in a match because that already carried a suspension.

In the absence of a league rule, however, I agree with the answers above.

I would argue that it is grossly unfair to count one of those cautions towards a subsequent suspension since that caution already contributed to a suspension.

Speaking as a director in a league that tracks cautions, neither of the cautions that result in a send-off for 2CT are counted towards the yellow card accumulation. It is simply counted as one red card, but the match record should show both cautions and the send-off (as many have stated).

[jkc313]

You have to issue the second caution for there to be a send off so it's 4 cautions and 1 send off