MLS All Time Tables

[Auxodium]

Does anyone know where i can see an all time MLS table of all teams that have played in the MLS that shows their wins, losses, draws, goals for, against, games played since formation.

I have a whole database on the National soccer legaue in Australia and that has 41 teams in 27 seasons of the NSL who have participated. So the MLS database will be easier to, and smaller to deal with.

Could anyone help me please?

[mpruitt]

http://www.mlsnet.com/statistics/pdf/AT_league.pdf

[Auxodium]

does that exclude the finals?
because i would like to imput this into a table of my own of regular season table and then a finals table then and then a combined table.


This pdf is great thanks mate :D

[mellon002]

I know www.dcunited.com has some in-depth statistics and you could cross-reference the numbers in the other link with the database on dc's website to see if it is just regular season.

[Auxodium]

i want a table like this one:
http://australiansoccer.com.au/public/Article/show.asp?ArticleID=5790&lvl=3&menuItemID=239

as you see the NSL is in dire need of reform and i am glad the APL will be here soon :D

[mpruitt]

The MLS stats page, although a little awkard is actually pretty good with having numbers. I'm sure that if you look around the varios drop down bars that they have yuo'll be able to find what you're looking for.

[AndyMead]

Contact the league through mlsnet.com and ask them to send you a media guide once the season starts.

[Auxodium]

yeah i think i will do that! So i just email them for a media guide? I thought they would cost a few bob as the NSL one costs $15 AUS and that is like 150 pages :O

[AndyMead]

yeah i think i will do that! So i just email them for a media guide? I thought they would cost a few bob as the NSL one costs $15 AUS and that is like 150 pages :O

I don't know how much it will cost, I'm just saying that the media guide will have the information you're looking for.

[ChrisE]

yeah i think i will do that! So i just email them for a media guide? I thought they would cost a few bob as the NSL one costs $15 AUS and that is like 150 pages :O

Let me save you some money, GF (although I'm sure the media guide is really interesting; I'd like to get one for myself...); I ranked the tables by points, SOW's are shootout wins, which existed when the league ended tied games with a variation on pk's in the league's first four years. To get points, take 3*wins+ties-2*shootout wins

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GP W L T Pts GF GA SOW
L.Angeles 244 132 87 25 399 426 307 11
D.C. U. 244 119 103 22 343 426 389 18
Columbus 244 109 111 24 325 401 377 13
Dallas 244 109 114 21 318 383 399 15
K. City 245 105 110 30 313 361 388 16
San Jose 244 107 111 26 309 373 367 19
Colorado 244 103 118 23 308 356 425 12
Chicago 181 97 61 23 304 326 243 5
Metrostars 244 102 125 17 301 357 405 11
New Eng. 245 97 125 23 280 360 425 17
Tampa Bay 187 83 98 6 235 312 336 10
Miami 122 56 56 10 158 199 219 10
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[AndyMead]

Shootout Wins were only worth 1 point.

Let me save you some money, GF (although I'm sure the media guide is really interesting; I'd like to get one for myself...); I ranked the tables by points, SOW's are shootout wins, which existed when the league ended tied games with a variation on pk's in the league's first four years. To get points, take 3*wins+ties-2*shootout wins

[ChrisE]

Shootout Wins were only worth 1 point.

Sorry, I wasn't clear about that. Since shootout wins were counted as 'wins' by the league, to adjust for them you need to add 1 point for the SOW but subtract 3 because it wasn't a regular win, netting -2pts/SOW.

I redid the table to include Shootout losses; both shootout wins and losses are included in the regular wins and losses columns, but it should be really easy to separate them if you want:


GP W L T Pts GF GA SOW SOL
L.A. 244 132 87 25 399 426 307 11 14
D.C. 244 119 103 22 343 426 389 17 13
Columbus 244 109 111 24 325 401 377 13 18
Dallas 244 109 114 21 318 383 399 15 13
K. City 245 105 110 30 313 361 388 16 14
San Jose 244 107 111 26 309 373 367 19 20
Colorado 244 103 118 23 308 356 425 12 12
Chicago 181 97 61 23 304 326 243 5 6
Metrostars 244 102 125 17 301 357 405 11 8
New Eng. 245 97 125 23 280 360 425 17 17
Tampa Bay 187 83 98 6 235 312 336 10 17
Miami 122 56 56 10 158 199 219 10 4

[Auxodium]

Thanks for that people! In the NSL table they have dismissed SOW & Losses as we had that in the 1993-1994 season to the 1995-1996 season. so if i don't include those in the table will that change anything? Or will i just add that to draws?

Thanks again.

[ChrisE]

Thanks for that people! In the NSL table they have dismissed SOW & Losses as we had that in the 1993-1994 season to the 1995-1996 season. so if i don't include those in the table will that change anything? Or will i just add that to draws?

Thanks again.

To get rid of SOW's and SOL's, subtract them from the win and loss categories, respectively, and add them both to the ties.

[Auxodium]

ok i will do that. Thanks for that! How current is this table? 1996-2002? or 2003?

[ChrisE]

ok i will do that. Thanks for that! How current is this table? 1996-2002? or 2003?

It's through 2003.

(We stay on top of things here in the Stats forum.)

[Auxodium]

great! thanks for that! i will be ready soon for the MLS kick off! :D can't wait for that and the new APL kicking off in 2005! :D

[LeeS]

I have this information through 2003... All teams w-l-t, Gf's/Ga's, points in reg season, MLS cup playoffs and overall.

But I don't know how to post it as a table.

Lee

[ChrisE]

I have this information through 2003... All teams w-l-t, Gf's/Ga's, points in reg season, MLS cup playoffs and overall.

But I don't know how to post it as a table.

Lee

Hopefully yours agrees with mine, but, if you've got it set up as a table already, just use [ code ] [ size=1 ]. You can also just quote my post on this thread to see how I did it.

[LeeS]

Okay here it is...
One HUGE difference is that I converted all shoot-out games (reg & playoffs) into "ties"


Regular Season MLS Cup Playoffs Overall
Team GP W L T Pts GF GA Dif GP W L T Pts GF GA Dif GP W L T Pts GF GA Dif
LosAngeles 244 121 73 50 413 426 307 119 38 21 10 7 70 67 48 19 282 142 83 57 483 493 355 138
DCUnited 244 101 90 53 356 426 389 37 25 15 6 4 49 44 30 14 269 116 96 57 405 470 419 51
Columbus 244 96 93 55 343 401 377 24 24 10 11 3 33 36 41 -5 268 106 104 58 376 437 418 19
Chicago 181 92 55 34 310 326 243 83 28 14 9 5 47 44 27 17 209 106 64 39 357 370 270 100
KansasCity 245 89 96 60 327 361 388 -27 23 8 10 5 29 34 35 -1 268 97 106 65 356 395 423 -28
SanJose 244 88 91 65 329 373 367 6 15 9 6 0 27 28 19 9 259 97 97 65 356 401 386 15
Dallas 244 94 101 49 331 383 399 -16 23 5 13 5 20 30 45 -15 267 99 114 54 351 413 444 -31
Colorado 244 91 106 47 320 356 425 -69 19 5 10 4 19 18 29 -11 263 96 116 51 339 374 454 -80
MetroStars 244 91 116 37 310 357 405 -48 15 5 6 4 19 24 26 -2 259 96 122 41 329 381 431 -50
NERevs 245 80 108 57 297 360 425 -65 15 4 6 5 17 14 21 -7 260 84 114 62 314 374 446 -72
TampaBay 187 73 81 33 252 312 336 -24 11 2 9 0 6 12 23 -11 198 75 90 33 258 324 359 -35
FusionFC 122 46 52 24 162 199 219 -20 10 3 5 2 11 6 13 -7 132 49 57 26 173 205 232 -27

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