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sportie1
26 Apr 2009, 08:33 AM
if i were a betting man, my guess at the next announcement re: season ticket deposits for mls 2011 will be over 10 000-- and that will come sometime before the summer when the canucks hockey season is over
we know that they have already 5 000 new season ticket deposits; combined with their existing season ticket numbers in the USl which total near 4 400, and with the assumption that each person will add 1 person onto their account, then we are already over 10 000-, maybe closer to 12 000
too bad we have to wait 2 more years before we take on TO and seattle with our own rabid fans
what do you think will happen with the season ticket count before 2011?
loben52
26 Apr 2009, 01:23 PM
if i were a betting man, my guess at the next announcement re: season ticket deposits for mls 2011 will be over 10 000-- and that will come sometime before the summer when the canucks hockey season is over
we know that they have already 5 000 new season ticket deposits; combined with their existing season ticket numbers in the USl which total near 4 400, and with the assumption that each person will add 1 person onto their account, then we are already over 10 000-, maybe closer to 12 000
too bad we have to wait 2 more years before we take on TO and seattle with our own rabid fans
what do you think will happen with the season ticket count before 2011?
There are about 1000 people on the wait list there is a link to an interview in the Crest/Logo Thread.
SoundersBeliever
28 Apr 2009, 08:38 PM
There in now way you will ever defeat the might Seattle Sounders-America's best supported club.
jd6885
29 Apr 2009, 05:43 PM
but can they beat out Toronto...Canada's best supported English speaking club? :p
Krammerhead
29 Apr 2009, 08:29 PM
Seattle aren't even the best supported team in North America. Good support though.
Kingston
01 May 2009, 10:38 AM
but can they beat out Toronto...Canada's best supported English speaking club? :p
Why the qualifier?
carnifex2005
01 May 2009, 03:22 PM
but can they beat out Toronto...Canada's best supported English speaking club? :p
Easily. Toronto has ALWAYS been a worse soccer town than Vancouver. NASL, CSL, A-League and USL, Vancouver has always had better teams and far greater fan support than the Toronto Johhny Come Latelys. It's going to be the exact same story when the Whitecaps make it to MLS.
the shelts
02 May 2009, 09:39 AM
I don't think you can say that now Carnifax. NASL, CSL and USL? Yes but Toronto fans have really proven themselves in MLS. They'll be tough to overcome.
Blizzard
06 May 2009, 12:13 AM
but can they beat out Toronto...Canada's best supported English speaking club? :p
I hope you do. It's all good. I also hope that a huge Vancouver fan base will encourage MLSE to accelerate any stadium expansion plans they have for BMO Field.
G Enriquez
20 May 2009, 12:02 PM
Easily. Toronto has ALWAYS been a worse soccer town than Vancouver. NASL, CSL, A-League and USL, Vancouver has always had better teams and far greater fan support than the Toronto Johhny Come Latelys. It's going to be the exact same story when the Whitecaps make it to MLS.
You've got to be kidding!
Toronto FC have the 2nd best fan's in the league.
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC: 2009 Home Opener
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC vs. Chicago Fire
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC Sponsored by BMO
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC vs Chicago Fire
WhiteCapArmy
21 May 2009, 11:24 AM
You've got to be kidding!
Toronto FC have the 2nd best fan's in the league.
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC: 2009 Home Opener (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blueworx/3433791562/sizes/l/)
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC vs. Chicago Fire (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtl_shag/957821154/sizes/o/)
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC Sponsored by BMO (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terras/515474978/sizes/o/)
Flickr Photo Download: Toronto FC vs Chicago Fire (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blueworx/3005607116/sizes/l/)
ya well look at what happened in Toronto and Seattle both teams had less fans than us in USL and where not in mls yet, so we haven't gotten our bandwagon jumping fans:D
Krammerhead
21 May 2009, 12:12 PM
ya well look at what happened in Toronto and Seattle both teams had less fans than us in USL and where not in mls yet, so we haven't gotten our bandwagon jumping fans:D
Well he's missing the point. First off Vancouver and TFC aren't even in the same league. So saying that Toronto has the second best fans in the league makes no sense because they aren't in the same league which is what people are talking about here. Secondly at the moment in MLS who are supposedly better than the TFC fans? I don't see any.
WhiteCapArmy
22 May 2009, 02:43 PM
Well he's missing the point. First off Vancouver and TFC aren't even in the same league. So saying that Toronto has the second best fans in the league makes no sense because they aren't in the same league which is what people are talking about here. Secondly at the moment in MLS who are supposedly better than the TFC fans? I don't see any.
he is a DC United fan so he prolly thinks the Barra Brava are the best fans.
Krammerhead
22 May 2009, 04:52 PM
he is a DC United fan so he prolly thinks the Barra Brava are the best fans.
I'll admit they are pretty good.
austinwetherby
22 May 2009, 08:45 PM
ok let me speak some truth to you young fellows, best fans are toronto, best supporters group is dc and toronto, but dc can make an empty stadum sound friken packed
WJMarx
22 May 2009, 09:12 PM
...Toronto fans have really proven themselves in MLS. They'll be tough to overcome.
Toronto FC fans are fakes. They empty the stadium as soon as their team is losing. In the 2nd half, often BMO field is near empty.
evangel
22 May 2009, 11:57 PM
I notice that Seattle is being left out of the "who has the best fans" argument. :D
Krammerhead
23 May 2009, 12:00 AM
ok let me speak some truth to you young fellows, best fans are toronto, best supporters group is dc and toronto, but dc can make an empty stadum sound friken packed
Young fellows?
Krammerhead
23 May 2009, 12:00 AM
I notice that Seattle is being left out of the "who has the best fans" argument. :D
Too early to make a judgement.
whiteisthecolour
23 May 2009, 12:13 PM
I hate to be a realist, but I thought I'd put my 2 cents in. First, who am I? Born in West Van, raised in the burbs, aware of the first Whitecaps incarnation (though I was only about 6yo), fan of the 86ers/Whitecaps from about 1993 on, season tickets the one season I had a car and could actually make it to all the matches, proud member of the Blue & White Brigade (RIP), Caps fan till I die.
But I don't think that the Caps will be the best supported team. On the other hand, I think they will. It depends on how you look at it.
If by best supported you mean best supporters groups, I don't think Vancouver will be the best supported. If by best supported you mean citywide awareness and support, then I think the Caps WILL be the best supported.
The only supporters group that exists right now is the Southsiders. Now I know a couple Southies, and I don't want to piss any of them off, so PLEASE understand I am trying to be objective. This is NOT personal. But that is one of the problems with the SS: they are entirely too easy to piss off. There has been (in the past) a bit of infighting (and in a small group that makes a large impact). Some things are not their fault: their numbers have never been high, probably ranging from 15 on wet, cold days to about 60 in perfect weather with fat wallets and a lot of beer (if I am wrong, please correct me -- I am interested in presenting an accurate picture.) Numbers are usually 30-40 people. Tifo has been relatively non-existent (although this year looks a little better) and organization is a low-priority. They are loud, but their list of songs and chants is short. The good thing is that they have never (yet) been known to be violent. But the thing is that they have been around forever and they barely grow. I think it is for a few reasons: it is not a friendly place (in my experience, having been with them a few times) and so casual fans would never go there; it is not particularly well-organized making efforts to recruit probably non-existent, and turning off people like me who want a highly orchestrated tifo-heavy song-driven supporters group to belong to; lastly, Vancouver is, in my opinion, not conducive to supporters groups. People in Vancouver are laid-back, non committal fans. They get loud when there is a big-noisemeter on the scoreboard, or when people are using tshirt cannons. Also, public singing is not a part of West Coast living, and group singing virtually nonexistent -- so getting casual fans to join in is next to impossible. And why, in such a long period of existence have the Whitecaps only one supporters group? I was a member of the shortlived Brigade (we didn't recruit at all) that died the season after I left (probably because the Brigade, near season's end, was pretty much just Brad, me, and 4-8 people that Brad dragged with him from Chilliwack.) Since 1986, only two supporters groups, and one of them only lasting 1.5 seasons, despite the on-the-field success of the Caps? That says a lot about the supporters culture in Vancouver.
If you are a SSer reading this, please understand that this is -- admittedly -- an outsiders view of the SS, but generally, this is how you are perceived.
And yet I think the Whitecaps will be one of the best supported clubs. At a mediocre location in an aging stadium they have drawn well and could have sold 10,000 tickets on good days in the summer had they had the seats. They are very well covered for a USL team, rating articles almost every day in the Province, and usually a one-page feature weekly. Highlights make it on to local TV when they are available. Nearly every sports fan in Vancouver is aware of the Whitecaps either because of the success of the USL side, or from the bygone NASL glory years. We have a HUUUUGE soccer-playing community. We have a lot of Brits, Irish, Portuguese, Italians. The Asians in Vancouver (aka Hongkouver) have a large soccer-watching/playing demographic. The Whitecaps drew amazingly well in NASL and should do quite well in this healthy cycle of MLS. I think we will benefit from the "TFC effect" where your attendance numbers go up 10x from USL to MLS.
So yeah, I think TFC and DC United will rule the supporters-group wars, but I also think no city will have a broader, more knowledgeable fan base than Vancouver. Two more years and I guess we'll know if I am right.