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mpruitt
28 Apr 2004, 11:24 AM
Thats phenominal. I'm so much of a dork with this stuff while we've been trying to develop this forum I specifically asked Huss to change the subtitle of this forum so that hopefully it'd come up under a search for "soccer and stats." It doesn't really but obviously we've done enough talk where some stuff does. That makes me tremendously pleased to know that we're reaching out to people off of bigsoccer.

kenntomasch
30 Apr 2004, 10:29 PM
Apparently MLS is putting all of that "where the goals came from" stuff in their weekly game guides that you can download from their site. So we can track it for all the teams.

mpruitt
30 Apr 2004, 10:35 PM
yeah someone mentioned that the game guides were going to be in .pdf form but i didn't notice them on the site. that's great news though.

ChrisE
30 Apr 2004, 10:35 PM
Apparently MLS is putting all of that "where the goals came from" stuff in their weekly game guides that you can download from their site. So we can track it for all the teams.

Where are these, kenn?

I don't know if anyone noticed this, but it was posted by genpabloescobar in the resources thread. MSNBC is posting up seriously expanded boxscores, that include individualized C/P's, G, A, shots, sog, off, ck, fc, fs, yc, and rc's.

kenntomasch
30 Apr 2004, 10:44 PM
I noticed MSNBC doing that last year, I think. MLS Game Guides are downloadable from the game previews. There's a game preview page for each game right off the main page. Then on the top it says "Download the Game Guide." They're about 9 page PDFs and the first page lists the lineups and the goal scoring information. They're very useful.

ChrisE
30 Apr 2004, 10:50 PM
I noticed MSNBC doing that last year, I think. MLS Game Guides are downloadable from the game previews. There's a game preview page for each game right off the main page. Then on the top it says "Download the Game Guide." They're about 9 page PDFs and the first page lists the lineups and the goal scoring information. They're very useful.

What were you just gonna keep it to yourself? :)

Thanks, found the game guides, yeah, those are some hefty files. Unfortunately, I don't know how useful that information is going to be till the end of the year - I just hope mlsnet doesn't get lazy and give up sometime in June.

kenntomasch
30 Apr 2004, 10:56 PM
I didn't think I'd be the first to notice it! I thought I saw it on here first! It was locusts! A plague! It wasn't my fault!

ChrisE
30 Apr 2004, 11:10 PM
I didn't think I'd be the first to notice it! I thought I saw it on here first! It was locusts! A plague! It wasn't my fault!

Then the Lord James answered to Chris, "Now you shall see what I will do to Kenn. Forced by my mighty hand, he will free these statistics from their bondage; compelled by my outstretched arm, he will relinquish them from his wicked grasp."

AussieVamp2
30 May 2004, 07:26 AM
Thanks much ... at a quick glance, it looks like defense and goalkeeping don't play much of a role in these numbers.

So if outside shots are randomish, then good goalkeepers are those that are good at keeping out the closer in shots?