Worst Participations of WWII

Discussion in 'History' started by The Old Lady Hertha, Feb 6, 2006.

  1. FC Girondins de Bordeaux

    Sep 30, 2012
    You can also see the photos of today's Serbian nationalists with radical and violent ideas. They only take photos with knives, guns, alcohol. They burn Croatian flags, you can also see their victims from early history.

    http://www.google.hr/search?q=Cetni...D44QTyzICgAw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=645

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks

    Their religious leaders also showed a lot of evil: prominent WWII personality.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momčilo_Đujić

    Even in early 90's his ideas lived:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vojislav_Šešelj
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radovan_Karadžić
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratko_Mladić
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goran_Hadžić
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slobodan_Milošević
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Babić
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavko_Dokmanović

    Other prominent Serbian radical members you can meet here:
    http://www.bosniafacts.info/web/serb_war_criminals.php

    Plenty of proofs that Serbs are the source of wars since 1914 and WWI, if you observe my presentation here. Croatia only defended from this invasion and they defended their interests in Bosnia and Herzegovina where Croats also live. Serbia was never attacked from Croatia. Before WWII, in 1928. only Croatian members of Yugoslav Parliament were killed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puniša_Račić

    This event was one of the reasons why Croats wanted independency during WWII and in 1990. Serbs had always advantage in both Yugoslavia's, Slovenia and Croatia practically developed whole Yugoslav economy and industry. Why work for others if someone can work for their own interests.
     
  2. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
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    I guess you don't know, but my parents are Croatian.
     
  3. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
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    You clearly don't have an axe to grind, Girondins.

    Nope.

    None what so ever.

    :rolleyes:
     
  4. FC Girondins de Bordeaux

    Sep 30, 2012
    Every contemporary nation had their warrior past, many bad things had happened, but I don't think that we can consider Croatia as worse participant of WWII.
    Serbs were the source of wars in Western Balkans, with Ottoman Empire in medieval times. They both wanted to take territory, convert people in religious sense, desire for values of their victims.

    Even today they say that Serbian neighbors are Serbs with different religions, but Serbs will forgive them if they return under the ideas of some guy called Saint Sava and under the Orthodox Christianity. But nobody cares for their forgiveness. People want to live in peace and in one piece without dictators, it's 21st century after all, high globalisation movement, infromation flow, people don't need some guy called Saint Sava. Serbs gave to him this sacred shield and they want that everyone else respects him as their own saint.

    Serbs today don't like western history, prominent historians, especially not Wikipedia. They beleive in conspiracy theories a lot. They think that „evil Vatican and western forces“ wants to convert them into Roman Catholicism and take their Serbian pride. They ask: Why don't you accept Serbs as a sacred nation, chosen from Saint Sava who is God's ambassador?

    They feel frustrated because they lose wars, they don't like new countries in their area, but nobody wants to live with them, nobody feels that sacred shine above their heads.
    Serbia websites are full of news from Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, these news collect around 200, 300 comments per day, news from Serbia collect around 10 comments per day. They are well informed about everything. Others don't care about activities and events in Serbia, except when they try to invade in other countries.

    They consider Minoan civilization as Serbian civilization, not Greek. Some of their „historians“ created some borders of „ancient historic Serbia from Greece to the Poland, border is straight like it's the question of desert and not Europe.

    They like to say: "Serbia is from Tokyo to Milwaukee", "Serbs and Russians have 300 millions of people." They consider Russians as their brothers.

    If they want to revive their false historic regions than Croats could also revive their true historic regions. Their names are: White and Red Croatia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Croatia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Croatia

    It's funny to see Serbs who pressure others that they accept so called Serbian royal families, who don't even have any royal background, their last royal family Karadordevic don't have any royal heritage if we observe only their first ancestor Karadorde Petrovic. Ordinary people in Serbia got their surnames in 19th and early 20th century. Croats got their surnames after this Council around 1563. But it started earlier, around 12th century.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Trent

    http://www.curkovic.ca/?p=29

    Croatia has their own royal and noble families.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_noble_families_of_Croatia

    In early medieval times Croatia had their own rulers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_Croatia

    After 1102 Croatia entered in Austro Hungarian Monarchy. If Croatia stays in peace, Croats won't attack their neighbors, but in opposite case, Croats will defend their integrity. Nothing strange, everyone does the same thing and tries to organize self-defense. Croats don't need someone elses methods how to live.
     
  5. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    You also have to take anything anyone says about Balkan history with a grain of salt.
     
  6. FC Girondins de Bordeaux

    Sep 30, 2012
    I agree. But western history about Balkan Peninsula is correct. But people from inside try to get an advantage and create their own "history", this is usually small nationalistic propaganda created in cold winter evenings without any evidences.
     
  7. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Mainly on account of it being a total shithole populated by nutcases who enjoy causing trouble. Between the arabs/jews and them there's not a lot to choose.
     
  8. FC Girondins de Bordeaux

    Sep 30, 2012
    We don't need go outside of Europe to see injustice and illegal invasions on territory of other countries. Why go so far? Nutcases in a shithole? If Croatia is a shithole why everyone wants this territory? I can name at least 20,30 moments of foreign invasion in Croatia, beside unsuccessful Serbian invasions.

    WWII ended but England had a nice role in this "shithole, land of nutcases". Croatian soldiers surrendered and they wanted to fled from ex-Yugoslavia on Austrian soil, in the city called Bleiburg, they left their weapons and wanted to leave society without democracy. But English generals said no and they returned surrendered soldiers, civilians (woman and children), mostly they were killed and their bones could be seen in forests of Austria, Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina. If Croats did something wrong, they should got normal trials, court exams, questions, testimony, etc. They were just executed and England had a important role here.

    Observe these Brittish officers and their words after: they feel obvious guilt and call of conscience because they sent Croats into the hand of Yugoslavia creators, with dominant Serbian majority. Yugoslavia reminds me on some European countries also.











    You mentioned the word "Troubles". Who invaded in Ireland, Scotland, India, East Asia, who destroyed Australian Aboriginal nation? Nutcases of Croatia? Nobody was responsible for Croatian victims in Bleiburg.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleiburg_repatriations

    When Serbs stop to dream about the Great Serbia, peace will come than. What should Croats do? Accept aggression and domination on their own soil? Serbs came second on those spaces. It's always nice to see someone who writes about "nutcases" from Balkan Peninsula, observe your history sometimes, not only WWII, in India people were divided 0n humans, subhumans, Native Australians could vote at the end of XX century. Before they could not. Think through before naming someone as a "nutcase". Those English officers could allow that Croats go from Yugoslavia as refugees, they and their families with people who could not live in Yugoslavia anymore, they didn't had any weapons, everything was left behind on one huge pile.

    During centuries almost every important European ruler tried to conquer Croatia, since the Roman Empire. Shithole? Do you watch TV by any chance, do you see commercials about Croatia, touristic reviews, articles about this "shithole" which documentary editors name as a place called "paradise on Earth". If Croatia is a shithole, than everyone should avoid Croatia and those nutcases who live there. Problem solved. Since Caesar Croatian soil is obvious desire for everyone. At least Croatian "nutcases" didn't invade in Ireland, Scotland, India, Australia, South-East Asia, South Africa, etc. At least your post seemed funny to me, I wonder why.

    You call Croats as nutcases, Croats invented civilization on those spaces since the 7th century, the oldest university on those spaces was founded in Zagreb, in 1669. Croats can rule alone on their territory, they don't need invasions and dead members of their families. In early medieval times Croatian Kingdom was one of the most powerful kingdoms, they created Croatia and Croatia deserves to exist. Because of silly political decisions Croats have large diaspora abroad, every "nutcase" who came in Croatia wanted to be superior. They shall not pass.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Zagreb

    The oldest university of Serbia was founded in 1808.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Belgrade

    Last video describes everything. Demonstrate some respect for all inocent victims who died there and learn how to create tolerant society, every individual should do the same and those things wouldn't happen again. Those officers showed how they feel sad and responsible, especially the person in the last video, they needed to live with this. First video shows who were the victims.
     
  9. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
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    Nov 5, 2007
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    There's a reason trips to Croatia appear virtually every week on The Price is Right. Somebody who matters went to Dubrovnik and was enamored.
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    No, they just threadjack threads about WW2 participation.
     
  11. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    I love the way the guy tries to prove it's not a land of nutcases by droning on for three hours blaming all and sundry for every problem the world's ever seen. Yeah, that'll prove it mate :D
     
  12. FC Girondins de Bordeaux

    Sep 30, 2012
    Do you have any other word in your vocabulary beside nutcases? Have you checked the history of your country recenlty? If they are nutcases, than everyone should avoid those spaces in any sense. People who want conquer "nutcases" and if they fail, how would we call them? Intellectual forces? Croatia provokes problems around the world? Croatia destroys other countries? They only defend their space, they don't invade. I am not proving anything, people know the role of many countries in history, not only WWII.
     
  13. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Don't need one when dealing with nutcases :)
     
  14. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    Google translate is a wonderful thing.*

    *This one comes with a DamonEsquire filter to boot.
     
  15. FC Girondins de Bordeaux

    Sep 30, 2012
    Maybe you should avoid local pubs in your area.:) You won't find there any grain of wisdom or enlightenment. You can hear there only onomatopoeic forest sounds. For some exclusive moments try visit some of the foreign frequent zones. If you can't find them there, try across La Manche.

    Best things in your country are foreign things: foreign cuisine, foreign wine, foreign fashion, foreign women, Irish beer and Scottish whisky.:) Single malt whisky would taste much better in independent Scotland.:) They want to leave their eternal paradise.:)

    My friends Kumar and Prathamesh from East Indies said to me yesterday that the new shipment of natural resources will arrive in Southampton, they worked for a whole season and they earned 3$ every day, this year Christmas arrives early.:) Lovely jubbly.

    Other European countries should implement "knife stabbing" as their street folklore activity. Oi, it's a popular academic activity.:)

    I am sure that you like to use Croatian inventions:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necktie
    http://www.becroative.com/?page=innovations

    Croats turned you into a decent gentlemen, or should I say "sir".:) Without Croats you wouldn't be able to write your thoughts of wisdom now - electricity. Pika Pika Pikachu.:)

    Have a nice evening, cheers mate!:) Be Croative!:)
     
  16. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    I think we're gonna need something a bit stronger with this fella :eek: :D
     
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  17. FC Girondins de Bordeaux

    Sep 30, 2012
    Electric shocker maybe?:) I have a better idea. You could send me football match DVD between Serbia and England (under-20 football teams). I would like to see those civilized moments.:) They welcomed you completely with Serbian customs and habits.:) English players entered in conflict against Serbian players. Shambles. It happened only after 90 minutes, imagine having them across the border for centuries, instead of Scotland for example.:) They are like domestic kittens, why did you confronted with them?:) They blast it. They aren't gormless. I hope that Stuart Pearce is OK? He was well disturbed there.:) God knows what actually happened in that tunnel.:)

    My address is:
    Patrick Ninian MacLeod O'Reilly
    Nutcase Plaza 1089
    Nutcracker City
    Republic of Nutland :)
     
  18. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Oh dear... :D
     
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  19. Dyvel

    Dyvel Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
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    Croatians invented threadjcking.
     
  20. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
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    Nope, that would have been the Iranians. Nice try though.;)
     

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