Why SKC should win the Supporters Shield

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  1. SombraAla

    SombraAla Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Waldo (Kansas City)
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fortunately the 'season series' means nothing anymore, it's all about goals scored.

    Which is, IMO, still the stupidest thing ever. Well, they could make it worse, but I think it would take a concerted effort. In fact, I can't really put that past this particular decision either.
     
  2. ji_shuheng

    ji_shuheng Member+

    Mar 26, 2003
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1st tie-breaker goes to the team with more DPs, since they do more to "grow the sport." Or to the team with the higher attendance averages/STHs, a la Giant's Cup. Or to the team with the higher allocation order, because they need it more. etc. Lots of stupid ways to break a tie.
     
  3. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    1st tiebreaker should be average home attendance, IMO. o_O
     
  4. cjgwizard

    cjgwizard Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    LSP, section 129
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's true....hadn't thought about that. Still a matter of pride in my mind, I guess. Just win the division, baby.
     
  5. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Average home attendance % compared to capacity ;)
     
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  6. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But it has to calculated correctly. Some of the charts I've seen take the total attendance and divide by the capacity of the smaller venue (Montreal, and San Jose).
     
  7. uncre8tv

    uncre8tv Member

    Dec 9, 2004
    Shreveport, LA (temporarily displaced from KC)
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. uncre8tv

    uncre8tv Member

    Dec 9, 2004
    Shreveport, LA (temporarily displaced from KC)
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (Oh, and for the record I've never actually met SP and we've interacted I think a grand total of once, on this board. Did not want to misconstrue the "old friend" remark, I consider him a friend of every fan of this team.)
     
  9. uncre8tv

    uncre8tv Member

    Dec 9, 2004
    Shreveport, LA (temporarily displaced from KC)
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oooooooh that tie at home vs NYRB sucks. personally, my anticipation of the shield is gone.
     
  10. SombraAla

    SombraAla Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Waldo (Kansas City)
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is and, has been for some time, SJE's to lose. Needed to win to keep the pressure on them, but I just don't see SJ screwing up that much in the run-in, unless they go on a horrible run of form that is.
     
  11. uncre8tv

    uncre8tv Member

    Dec 9, 2004
    Shreveport, LA (temporarily displaced from KC)
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    4 behind. so we need them to lose and tie in two weeks where we win. and then keep pace with them otherwise. yeah, not feeling it.
     
  12. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Especially not with the team falling apart. :(
     
  13. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    Maximum point potential
    SJE 74 (actual-50)
    SKC 71
    SEA 70
    NYR 69
    CHI 68
    DCU 67
    CLB 66
    HOU 66
    RSL 64
    LAG 61
    CHV 60
    PHI 58
    MTL 57
    VAN 56
    COL 53
    PTL 51
    NER 50
    DAL 50
    TOR 45-OUT
     
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  14. PezJunkie

    PezJunkie Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Independence, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple of weeks ago, I was all ready for Dallas to be declared the first team eliminated from the Supporters Shield race... I guess I should know better than to bet against Toronto's sucktitude.
     
  15. jtreg

    jtreg Member

    Aug 16, 2010
    State of denial
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's to hoping San Ho slip on the Chivas peel. I know the little goats got waxed by Seattle last weekend and their strike rate has been anemic, but by most accounts, Chivas looked pretty good offensively. Then they go to NE and put up in 3. If they can just get their defense back on track ....
     
  16. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Just 8 more points from their remaining 7 games and SKC will beat the record 57 points set in 2000...

    Keep it going!!!
     
  17. uncre8tv

    uncre8tv Member

    Dec 9, 2004
    Shreveport, LA (temporarily displaced from KC)
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's interesting that this site was showing the same point totals before the SJ CHV game was complete (in fact, when SJ CHV was 1-0, the standings were updated as they are right now)

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/supporters-shield

    The fix is in? Or the intern whose job it is to update the site is lazy and doesn't believe in miracles?
     
  18. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Page down below the table in the link you provided.
     
  19. uncre8tv

    uncre8tv Member

    Dec 9, 2004
    Shreveport, LA (temporarily displaced from KC)
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "If a team is winning a game in progress" ... holy wtf batman. The game lasts 90+, I find this disrespectul to the play on the field.

    I also get LIVID when an announcer starts talking like a game is won before the final whistle blows (especially for us - announcer curse is real!)
     
  20. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ESPN does it as well with their "Live table" I notice it especially when EPL games are going on. This isn't something new that MLS made up.

    And how's it disrespectful? Everyone always says stuff like "if this result holds".
     
  21. uncre8tv

    uncre8tv Member

    Dec 9, 2004
    Shreveport, LA (temporarily displaced from KC)
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a euro mistake that MLS can fix!

    :D
    ok. i'm done arguing on the internet for this morning.
     
  22. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    Maximum point potential
    SJE 74 (actual-53)
    SKC 71- 11 points will clinch playoffs.
    SEA 68
    CHI 68
    NYR 67
    CLB 66
    HOU 66
    RSL 64
    DCU 62 (actual-41, 6th in east, first team to not make playoffs.)
    LAG 61
    CHV 55
    VAN 55
    MTL 54
    PHI 53
    PTL 53
    DAL 48-OUT
    COL 47-OUT
    NER 46-OUT
    TOR 42-OUT
     
  23. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How do you figure? As it stands right now, SKC has to get to 63 points--i.e., 13 more--to guarantee that five Eastern Conference teams finish below them.
    After losing to Chicago last night, Houston has just 7 games left and can only get to 63. So if SKC beats the Dynamo on 09/14, that puts them at 53 and lowers the playoff-clinching bar to 61, reducing their magic number to 8; or only 6 if Houston draws at home with RSL this Wednesday, and just 5 if RSL somehow wins.

    For those interested, I started a thread with the magic and tragic numbers for all teams here.
     
  24. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    oops my bad
     
  25. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Just to throw in a technicality, that was 57 points over 32 games, or 1.781 PPG. In order to break even in an apples to apples comparison, we would need to finish on 61 points or higher - or 11 points out of the last 7 games.
     

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