Why SKC should win the Supporters Shield

Or we need a guy that is actually a better finisher, finishing more of the chances that we actually create....

I would like to have Drogba please

how is it working for me?

it doesn't change a thing, we should expect 3 points from the expansion side the remaining two times we play them. I never said we should count the points before we have them-

Why do people think this thread makes any difference to anything? It doesn't, it is a thread on a subpar forum on a subpar website that not many people read or care about- I am of the opinion that SKC should win the Supporters Shield this season, that hasn't changed and if everytime we drop points you guys want to come to this thread and point out that we dropped points then so be it but I'd say that it says more about you than it does me.

We dropped two more points, after blowing a two goal lead.

FYI

Heh, lashing out are we?

Maximum point potential
SEA 92
NYR 91
SKC 91
SJE 90
RSL 89
VAN 87
CHI 87
HOU 85
DCU 84
CLB 84
NER 82
LAG 80
PHI 80
PTL 81
CHV 82
COL 78
MTL 78
DAL 76
TOR 75

Maximum point potential
SKC 89
SJE 87
RSL 86
DCU 84
NYR 84
VAN 83
SEA 82
CLB 82
CHI 81
HOU 80
NER 77
COL 76
PTL 76
TOR 76
CHV 75
LAG 74
PHI 74
MTL 72
DAL 67

Dallas is almost eliminated from the SS already (i know it isn't a statistical fact yet, it is way too early for that but....). 67 points is what it took last year to win it and LA had a historic season.

Maximum point potential
SJE 82
SKC 81
DCU 78
NYR 77
CHI 76
RSL 75
PHI 74
SEA 73
CLB 73
HOU 73
VAN 72
CHV 71
NER 70
LAG 68
COL 67
PTL 63
DAL 62
TOR 61
MTL 60

Surprised a bit to see Montreal at the bottom. I would have figured TFC had the Wooden Spoon all but wrapped up.

Montreal has already played a bunch of games.

76 points is the cutoff for the playoffs right now in the east
73 in the west
72 being the Wild Card play in games

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Hmmm, I seemed to have misplaced my neg rep button.

Funny that morry hasn't visited the forum since may 18 after posting this pretty much anywhere and everywhere after our hot start.

Maximum point potential
SJE 77
RSL 75
DCU 75
NYR 74
SKC 73
SEA 73
CLB 73
HOU 73
CHI 71
PHI 68
CHV 68
VAN 67
LAG 66
NER 62
TOR 58
COL 58
PTL 58
MTL 57
DAL 55

I would be thrilled if we win USOC and make the playoffs at this point.....

Not making the playoffs this year would be 'unacceptable'.

I honestly feel that we should be vying for the SS... and it's not like we're totally out of that hunt or anything either... but I guess I'd just say that I feel like we have had more games where we could say "we should've gotten more from that" (@Portland, @chicago, @Colorado, Columbus at home... to an extent Chicago at home or even @houston) than we can say "we were lucky to get those points" (@Chivas, possibly @DC, possibly @Montreal).

Not saying we deserve to take credit for points we didn't actually earn, but more just looking at the fact that we've probably played better than our point total indicates right now... so I don't think that the SS was (or even is) out of our potential with this team.

As far as the premise of this thread goes, the East turned out to be a lot stronger than people thought they'd be, with us, NY, DC, Chicago and Houston being quality sides and even Philly is much better than their Nowak-suppressed point total right now would indicate. We did capitalize on our early schedule and the CCL point is just now coming into play (though doesn't apply to the leaders right now, NY and SJ). The sad point, and probably the only reason we aren't up there with SJ right now, is our home form.

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So while I totally agree that "should win the SS" was a gross overstatement, I have always considered that we could win it and should be in the hunt for it.

I would still say we have still dropped more points by making incredibly stupid mistakes than actually being outplayed. (Columbus, @Portland, Joseph's red at Houston etc) We have a team that should be capable of a SS run, but to call it in the first month of the season? Yikes. We have to face the music. We are barely hanging onto a playoff spot at this point considering the next three teams below us all have games in hand and we are dropping points all over the place.

If we lose out on it, it will probably be by a game or two unless we have a collosal collapse or a team just goes on a tear and runs away from everyone else which could happen. If we do lose it like that, we are going to look back on a few games and remember them for a very long time.

9 teams with 6 points this far into the season is not the norm. The fact remains though that SJ and RSL are currently in the drivers seat, with SJ having the easier schedule. If anybody is going to make a run at the SS it will be due to those two losing pace.

With the recent revelations regarding tiebreakers for the MLS playoffs, it made me wonder what the tiebreakers are for the Supporters' Shield. Does it follow the official MLS tiebreaker for the given year, or is it different? I'm not sure I even know who the governing body of the SS is.

Can someone shed some light on this?

EDIT: Never mind, assuming Wikipedia is correct.
EDIT2: The Wikipedia article mentions that "these are standard MLS regulations for breaking ties in point totals." So, that makes me wonder if the SS inherently will stay in lock-step with MLS with respect to tiebreakers. Question reinstated. Comments please.

I'd expect it to be the same as the rest of the league's tiebreakers cause that's all it is, is a tie for first place.

According to this, we need to win 7 of the remaining 10 to have at least a 50% chance of winning the supporters shield. (It says 8 of 11 - and we just took care of DCU). But, the odds might now be worse since SJ just beat Seattle. Regardless, given San Jose's lead, form, and remaining schedule, we'll have to be lights-0ut to overtake them, IMHO.