You bolded the part of my post where I was talking about his move AFTER Flamengo. About Seedorf, 24 games. Get it through your head. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/clarence-seedorf/leistungsdaten/spieler_4168_2011.html Utilized in FORWARD positions unlike in Milan, where he played deeper.
this is silly... Just another superiority argument for the sake of arguing. Getting involved in another Worms flame post about how Europeans are so superior to all of the apes in South America, Africa and Asia.. I'm done have a nice time.
Yeah, I guess ancient Ryan Giggs would tear it up here too. Or maybe ancient Maldini who made 30 appearances for Milan in his final season.
Yes, that was my answer to it, I didn't say you were wrong, like you mistakenly said about my post. I know that your self-esteem is low about this, but try not to offend people so hastily.
Anyone who has adjusted in his career to faster pace, can play much better in slower environment. It hardly works the other way around.
When you bold someone's post, you are referring to what they said unless specified. Seeing the numbers you've postied around here, it's safe to say you have a tendency to distort the truth. The Russian season is over, so "last season" is the season that just ended (2012-2013).
I never distort the truth, you would know that if you have followed my debates here. I gave a source which clearly stated these numbers.
It goes both ways. In some cases (Traore, Eto'o) their NT GPG is higher, in other cases it is lower. So its similar to Brazil in that sense. But its difficult to take NT goal stats seriously when there are teams like San Marino and Tahiti out there plus an over-saturation of friendly matches that mean nothing. Especially with guys like Neymar and Traore who haven't played many competitive internationals.
You have some points, and that's why BIG GAMES (goals stats) are counted more for NT than (friendly or qualification of Euro with San Marino, Faroe Island, Lithiuana ... LOL) In SA it's different thought , WC QUAL and Copa America were all much more competitive than Euro QUAL and WC QUAL of UEFA continents!
Each league is a different beast in the football chain of survival. The Brazilian stands on its own and has more than enough accolades to validate its football in all aspects from players, clubs and NT. Is it the best? Maybe or maybe not but what do they need to prove that has been proven? Their league is self sustainable, no doubt but to compare it with other leagues? What for? You either hate the league or just revere as a noticeable league.
Its the Brazilian posters who are obsessed with measuring up to the European leagues. This thread was just created to mock them after countless threads/arguments had been created earlier arguing that the Brazil league is better than the top Euro leagues.
Clarence Seedorf European Leagues, age 16-35, 84 goals 582 games, 0,14 GpG Brazilian League, age 35-37, 12 goals 34 games, 0,35 GpG
if gpg tell a story then what's the story of Messi? Is la liga that weak of competition? if you can accept that La Liga is so weak that Messi doubles his NT average in La Liga I'll accept that Seedorf criticism of the league. C. Ronaldo is even worse.. 1.01 gpg in La Liga, .375 in the NT and .40 in the EPL Neymar (one of our most prolific scorers in Brazil over the past 3 years) .60 in Brazil, .61 in our NT. you only see real spike with La Liga. umm I wonder... So let's conclude our scientific experiment. If you agree that La Liga is weaker than the Brazilian league since the gpg spike (the data you brought into play) is an indicative of bad play, and we analyzed avgs from 4 different players and clearly La Liga sees a spike in scoring from forwards. We can conclude by your definition that the Brazilian league is better than La Liga.. Thanks for clarifying this for us, next time think before clicking post reply, your data might actually work against you.
No i'm giving you the data provided and giving feedback on it, even if you take the EPL out of the equation it would make the situation worse between his NT gpg and his La Liga gpg. So let me know when you decide to make the time C. Ronaldo was at his peak so we can go through the exercise once more and see that C. Ronaldo and Messi and Falcao (let's add another date to that list) have 2x gpg avg in their leagues in Europe compared to their NT avg. so go ahead pick the peak for Messi, Falcao, C. Ronaldo, Neymar, Ibrahamovic, Seedorf and we'll make the gpg comparisson between their league and their NT. you give that to an actual mathematician, and not a person which is biased with opinions, guess what they'll tell you?