Let me be clear about something, if I were a fan of La Liga then beIN would be the greatest thing to happen in a while. Between Barca TV, Real Madrid TV, La Liga highlight show, La Liga coverage, the coverage La Liga gets on the Express and the Lockeroom it's clear where their focus is. As a Serie A fan, it's been extremely disappointing and a step back. I haven't had to find illegal streams of games in a long time. This season I've done it on numerous occasions already.
I have DirecTV , so except for Barcelona ( I'm not interested to watch them) and Real Madrid, plus occasional Atletico Madrid or Malaga game, all La Liga games are on Espanol channel. Which is in standard definition. Now , Serie A games are on English channel in glorious HD. I do not find Serie A interesting even in the slightest, but Bein stuck with that format, so I'm pretty upset about it. I come here and I see that Serie A fans upset too, though I'm kind of confused why. I guess you can't please everyone.
Even though I criticize Serie A in the past about losing its best stars and near empty stadiums - I actually like it more than La Liga and only slightly behind the EPL. The Serie A coverage on Bein Sport isn't as bad as i thought it would be....Not as good as FSC but better than nothing which I had over a month ago (i'm a TWC customer). Wonder how BosnaInter feels about Bein Sport?
I'm pretty sure he feels BeIN Sport is a pawn in the grand EPL/Illuminati conspiracy to prevent the masses from embracing Serie A.
The only thing I think people have a legit gripe about is the inability for streaming and putting up overflow games like ESPN. But considering it took ESPN many years to master that aspect of broadcasting and BEIN is just in its infancy stage... ...I think we have to be a bit more patient.
Or, one could argue that ESPN has shown how it can be done and BeIN has no excuses for its failure to do the same. Ask the folks in Canada whom BeIN has completely shut-out about being patient.
With all the arab money JSC has, its still gonna take time For example, take a look at their teams PSG, ManC, and in some form, Arsenal
Canadians can thank the CRTC for their problems. For those unfamiliar, the CRTC is the equivalent to the FCC in the US. The CRTC has very strict rules about Canadian ownership of broadcasters. Now, you can make the argument that beINSport were well aware of the CRTC rules prior to purchasing the rights. That's true but two points need to be made: One, beINSport cannot be happy at paying the respective FA's for the rights but not have a way to broadcast in Canada. While the results may look like it, beIN did not buy the rights just to black-out everybody else. Their intent is to broadcast in Canada. Two, the alternative would be to first set up a partnership with a Canadian-owned corporation then purchase the rights. But the rights came up NOW, and waiting would mean access only 3 years from now. Not to mention what creating the partnership would indicate to all of their competition in 3-years time. As a business, would you go through all the cost of purchasing/creating a semi-Canadian entity only to hope you are the highest bidder 3 years from now (giving all your potential competition plenty of time to partner up with others to counter any large bid you may come in with)? Or do you utilize the "surprise factor" and grab the rights and then work on partnering up? Yes, the fans are getting screwed. It sucks. I'm not seeing any action in Canada at the moment. Doesn't mean there are no talks going on but I doubt that the fans get any Serie A or La Liga this season. But I would be very surprised, however, if by the summer some version of beINSport is not active in the Canadian market. But thats just my opinion... As far as the CRTC is concerned, I have mixed feelings. I guess I can understand the need to protect domestic corporations and content. On the other hand, we live in a globalized society. Foreign investment has penetrated every sector of business. Seems that the CRTC is being a bit "protectionist" in its policies. Country of ownership should not play a role in the 21st century. As far as content, perhaps there is room to demand a certain percentage of content being produced in Canada. But apparently, the rules go beyond that in the Great White North... SA
All fair, well reasoned points. Sadly, I think you have put much more thought into this than BeIN ever did prior to purchasing rights for programming they had no possible way to show at the time of purchase.
I don't think we need to be more patient. It took ESPN years to master that aspect because the technology wasn't at the level it is today. It's not particularly hard to get streaming set up. Considering the fact that they were able to stream on their website when it launched then stopped I think it's fair to criticize them. Throw in the fact that they stepped in with a ton of money and bought up rights to leagues with little thought to how they would be able to show games. Good news for me, Bein 1 or whatever the regular English channel is called just popped up on Comcast for me with GolTV dropping off. So it only took them 4 months to get the main Bein on Comcast.
Well there are a lot of technicalities and formalities to consider other than the technology itself. They have to figure out how they want to design it. They have to figure out how they can make it different than ESPN Or Univision and other streaming sites or else there could be legal action. And of course they have to figure out which games they want to put on there and how people can access it. Not to mention whether extra fees should be applied to access it. Legal processes and paper work sometimes takes longer to decide upon than the actual technology.
And a reasonable time for all of this to get done should take how long? In your mind, six months is not nearly enough time for BeIN to reinvent the wheel. In my mind, they are 3 months overdue.
Well I can't complain unless I know the details. Too many people complain about things without knowing the details about what the company is working on behind closed doors.
As consumers, we have every right to be impatient. And if the company had the basic business sense to announce something, anything specific re: streaming plans, there would be way less b*tching around these parts.
This to me is all the type of info that a serious business should have figured out before they launched. Al Jazeera is a very professional organization but clearly the people running bein are not learning from them. There are more than enough options in terms of streaming/site design for them to have figured out how to make it different enough that any legal action would fail. Determining whether there should be subscriber fees shouldn't take 6 months. Do they not have analysts that can calculate all revenue based on different price points while balancing that against the cost? That's not exactly rocket science in this day and age.
Both serie A matches shown live today. But no streaming so if you live in a dorm or your mother's basement, you're still screwed.
When Setanta folded in the middle of the season, didn't FSC have their own replacement streaming running almost instantly? IIRC their streaming service was minimal before that. No excuse for BeIN to take so long.