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Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Oct 19, 2010.
there was life before internet??? oh hell no eff that noise.....
Riquelme is available on free. JD get the phone.
the horrible, absolutely inexplicable self ashaming things i would do.....
1st choice is Dawkins ; 2nd is Wondo.
At this point, I think so too but I believe the Quakes may lose them both in January....
me too. Its either DP or nothing for Wondo. Im already resigned to losing Dawkins. If we fight tooth and nail we might be able to keep Wondo. But hes at the point where hes gonna likely earn one more big paycheck. We just gotta make sure its with us. Sends a great message to our team too if you work hard enough you can get there, and loyalty is rewarded.
the plus about the Dawkins thing, is it will show Tottenham that our league loan system works. Maybe theyll send us something pretty like a forward next, or another young left mid of the mold.
Wondo would have to get LAndy like money to bypass Europe. The minimum salary in most top leagues is like 500k Euro..... Dawkins on the other hand, I'm not so sure if the Spurs want him or not. I know he is starting to like it here as I think he has a girlfriend and that may start swaying him but the Quakes will no longer get him for $60k. If they want him , I'm sure they will have to offer at least $250 or 300k and with salary cap that's in place, I'm not so sure they are willing to do that....nothing to do with a DP but I'm pretty sure Khari will be gone unless he takes a pay cut...
if the interest locale is scandinavia, we should be competitive so long as its DP money. If anyone outside Sweden, Norway, Denmark come calling, then yeah game over. Rolfe was on about 450K i think in Denmark, we can play that game. or we SHOULD be able to play that game. Id go a solid 500K just to be safe though.
I think you're overrating Dawkins. Yes, he's been good this year and seems to be getting better. But I don't think that means that he's ready to play for Tottenham, and by European standards, he's a bit old to be a "project player". I think that Tottenham will be more than willing to sell him, but the problem will be how much money they want for him and whether the Quakes consider him worth that. But if Dawkins is not with the Quakes next year, I really don't think he'll be playing with Tottenham - he'll either be loaned out again elsewhere or sold elsewhere.
I agree. Dawkins is more a candidate to be sold off to a lower league team, or elsewhere in Europe. Hopefully he and the Quakes can come to an agreement to continue his career in San Jose.
According to my source, Dawkins is probably not going to be with us another season. T'ham wants a big transfer fee and Simon a salary to go with it. But part of the partnership is that they are likely to send us another young player in need of seasoning.
We gotta keep Wondo, though.
I think obtaining Marcus Tracy makes keeping Simon less urgent, but we NEED to make Wondo our DP for next year. He's earned it, we owe it to him, and we need to keep him in San Jose.
Losing both Dawkins and Wondo would be really tough. They are both special players. I'm not counting on anything with Marcus Tracy until I know that he's going to be able stay healthy and actually see him play.
I want to keep Simon, but with a healthy Chavez and Salinas in the mix (plus the aforementioned Tracy) I do believe that if Simon says goodbye this winter it won't be the disaster that losing Wondo would be.
Agreed. Wondo should be the priority. But there is only one Quakes player who really has that ability to take players on and press right down the spine of the defense, and be a threat to score, and that's Dawkins. W/o him, with guys like Chavez and Salinas, it's all about driving down the wing and then crossing. They will cut back, but they are not strong threats to score and they don't go right down the spine in traffic the way that Dawkins does. There aren't many players in MLS with that kind of attacking ability, and it's a great complement to the Quakes wing play. You can't just take away the wings with the Quakes or Dawkins will rip you apart in the middle.
Don't know what kind of big transfer fee they are expecting. Outside of his time with the Earthquakes, his resume only shows 11 appearances on loan to League One Leyton Orient. Whatever value he has, the Quakes have put it on him. It will be interesting to see how much Tottenham thinks we have increased his worth.
he did have interest from Twente in holland last time around, no reason to think he wouldnt garner that interest or more next time around. Hes Championship talent bare minimum as stands, and theyd pay much better than us. Someone like Sheffield Wednesday, Charlton, Ipswich would be tickled pink to latch on to him with what we turned him into. Im just glad we had him another season, it was a coup being able to do it again honestly.
It only helps the tottenham relationship. Hopefully they give us another nice toy next season with these results. Because the Dawkins we are giving back is much.....much better than the one we took in.
I heard 1mm pounds, but that may have been hyperbolic, or maybe EPL clubs don't deal in lesser amounts? I like Simon, but there are other places I'd put that kind of money.
Hah, their calculators only work in the millions of pounds. No fractional amounts! That's for those upstart Yanks.
and if its an english player, they add another zero to the actual retail numerical value simply because hes english (see andy carroll, stewart downing, jordan henderson)
Yeah, if they are able to sell him to another team in England or Europe for a million plus pounds they really do owe us a favor. He was cut loose from the Tottenham system in June 2009, only to impress them again with a trial in 2011, signed to a contract, and then loaned off to San Jose the next day.
well, instead of starting another thread.......if we got another tottenham youngster, what position would you guys want him to play??
I would love to bring in a young central defender as depth, and maybe a young forward if Wondo bolts.
No, Liverpool adds the extra 0
......and city (milner, barry, bridge)
I wonder if the Quakes are entitled to some $$ if the Spurs end up selling Dawkins & there is transfer $$ paid to them?