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Discussion in 'GROUP D: Germany, Australia, Serbia, Ghana' started by kwame_tdot, Dec 5, 2009.
TBF I think this could be said of any of the four teams.
Yes Serbia is still talking stikers of Pantelic and Zigic, and there is Lazovic as back up, and Jovanovic who mainly plays left wing, is also a stiker for hes club. So there is options. And Serbia can always play with 5 in midfield with Zigic as alone stiker. something like this:
For me this is pretty strong 'attack' with Zigic, who is a bench warmer in Valencia, but considering how rare he playes he scores goals pretty regulary. He also scored two this weekend and changed the game for Valencia when he came in, in second half... Pantelic also scores regulary in Ajax, but I will not put much in to that considering Ajax have scored over 100 goals...
And you say they lack speed, and that is true, Zigic and Pantelic do lack speed. but speed comes from the flancks, and I don't know if you have seen Krasic or Jovanovic but they both are very fast players...
Goal threat for Serbia is not coming from Zigic and Pantelic alone, all of those 5 players I mentioned in midfield can and are goalscorers for their clubs and for Serbia, and taking Vidic, Ivanovic, Subotic and Kolarov from defence, who also all of them are capable of scoring and are real threaths at corners and free kicks, you can see that Serbia should not worry of being 'thin' in attack...
As for goalie, that is Serbias main problem. He is an on and off keeper. He can have a fantastic game, but he can also f up...
And you say Serbia have problems in front ( to some point I agree) and the goalie, wich I agree. But now I would like to ask you if Serbia have problems with attack, what about Ghana and Australia, personally I think Serbia have a better attack than both Ghana and Australia? What about Ghana's and Australias midfield and defence? Are they a well rounded teams? now that you say Serbia is not...
Two players alone: Essien and Asamoah are probably worth at least 80 mln euro (Asamoah is priced at 30 mln, whilst Essien would be unlikely to be sold at anything below 50 mln with prices most likely approaching 70 mln). Gyan is priced between 10-15 mln, Mensah at 10 mln, Muntari at 16 mln, Paintsil at 9 mln. Most of the remainder of the bench and first team is priced in the region of 5 mln euro (Annan, Vorsah, Ayew).
Neither Germany nor Serbia have a player priced as much as Essien. Essien and Asamoah by themselves are worth more than Serbia's 4 priciest players and I believe every other Serbian player is worth much less than 10 mln. Krasic is priced at 15 mln euro, Zigic was bought for 25 mln euro (but is probably worth less nowadays), Vidic is valued at around 25 mln euro, while Ivanovic at 15 mln euro.
Thank goodness they have Asamoah and Annan as back-up. Essien's form remains a key issue, but on form he is the classiest player in this group and everyone knows it.
Wait... isn't that the same team with Muntari in it?
But Ghana have Asamoah, Annan, Ayew, Inkoom, Vorsah, Kumordzi, Buaben, Prince-Boateng, Kingston... all more or less the same class, if not a class above Krasic (i.e. Asamoah)... and some of those mentioned won't even make the Ghana national team.
And I didn't even mention the reigning best youth player in the world - Dominic Adiyiah. Not too mention a whole list of players who fronted the u20 World Championships.
Ghana has Mensah, Inkoom, Paintsil, Vorsah, Essien, Gyan, Adiyah, Annan, Asamoah, Ayew, Kumordzi, Buaben, Muntari, KP Boateng, D. Boateng, the u20 winning side plus more. This is arguably the best Ghanaian team in several generations and it has shown in qualifying already.
Well... Asamoah Gyan is the fastest striker of the three teams. Arguably better than Pantelic or Zigic and has had a great season for Rennes. And Australia have Harry Kewell and Tim Cahill (who isn't a striker per say but can play efficiently in that position). Ghana however has no other tested striker on national level apart from Gyan (under-20 level excluded). Personally I think none of the three teams has anything to brag about up front and are about level. Ghana probably have the biggest issue with finding a goalscoring partner for Gyan, but than again they may play 4-5-1. I would actually say Australia probably has the best forwards.
Ghana's defence is injury prone, but have several great defenders: Paintsil, Vorsah, Mensah and Inkoom (plus young talents like Lee Addy and Porto's David Addy). They do however lack proper backup.
Ghana's midfield is by far the best and most balanced of the three teams. Even without Essien. Annan-Asamoah-Muntari-Prince Boateng-Kingston-Buaben-Kumordzi-Ayew-Appiah-Owusu Abeyie-Asare-Narry are all midfield options that guarantee a sound midfield. Naturally Essien is Essien...
Ghana's main problem with preparation is the fact that apart from one first team player every single Ghanaian has had an injury in the last 6 months. Another problem - especially with teams like Australia or Serbia - will be the height issue. Save for Vorsah (at 196 cm he will be terrorizing Zigic) and one or two odd players most Ghanaians are on average about 175 cm and will be very susceptible to corners and setpieces.
Wow you say Essien and Asamoah are 80 millions worth, lol the whole Ghana team including Essien is 66350000 Euro worth, Essien alone is 38 million worth, wich means the rest of Ghana squad is 28350000 worth, lol. Essien alone is 10 millions more worht than the rest of the squad. Asamoh is only 5.5 millions worth... Where did you ever read or hear that asamoah is priced at 30 million?! lol... You know what value means? If a player is valued lets say 7 million, but the club demands 20 million for him, nobody will buy him. One thing is value the other thing is how much a club is demanding... Nobody would buy Essien for 50-60 millions, but for about 38 milions or 40 , wich is hes value, will be more realistic. Kolarov from Serbia is 12mill worth, but Lazio president wants 20million, thats why he didn't go to Inter, for example... But you come with some arguments or some links, some facts about those prices you are mentioning. You are talking about stuff you have no clue about...
Serbia, is 197550000, that is just about 200 million Euro. Vidic is 35 millions worth, only 3 million less than Essien (who you said is more worth than whole Serbia squad, lol, yes he is more worth but than the whole Ghana Squad, as is Vidic, lol) If you don't believe me, check it out
Ghana's top 4, Essien 38mill, Gyan 6.2 mill Asamoah 5.5Mill and Isah Vorsah 3mill, loooooool
Edit: Muntari is not on that list he is 15.5 mil worth, so he is second most expensive in your team, and he increases Ghanas overall value to about 70mill, that is still almost 3 times less than Serbias overall value...
Serbia's top 4 : Vidic 35Mil, Krasic 18mil, Stankovic 17,5mil, Ivanovic 16mill, and a bunch other over 10mill, and a bunch about 10 millo. You just can not compare the two teams. It does not make any sense. Serbia are better in every department...
If you have a better link, please post it...
Yes Muntari is (never) playing in the same team as Stankovic...
And all those players you are mentioning, who are better than Krasic, lol, Why are they not wanted by all the big guns in Euurope? Why do Serb players play in better teams and why are they more worth? Please explain those two things to me,( value and club) Why is Serbia ahead of Ghana there, if Ghana is a class above?
Serbias U21 have been in two finals and a semi final (lost on penaltys) in the last 4 euro U21 tournaments. And its mainly those players who play for A team now...
Zigic and Pantelic are a class above Ghanas attack...
Serbias midfield are a class above Ghanas midfield (that with out Essien) is consistent of bench warmers.
Serbias defence are way way, severel classes above Ghanas.
And as for goalie, wich is Serbias weakest link, he is still keeping Ghanas keeper as third choise in Wigan. That says something about Ghanas goalie...
Transfermarkt is not good for this kind off stuff. It is a very poor site and anyonr basing their assumptions on that site won't get far. (I used the last price tag of a given player and where the transfer was long ago I sought out the current price-tags on the players):
1. The price tag for Kwadwo Asamoah 30 mln euro. EOT. He is officially valued at 30 mln and won't leave the club for a penny less. Anyone offering Udinese 5,5 mln euro would be laughed at straight at their face:
"These are just some of the reasons that Udinese, who paid 800,000 euros for his services, have now slapped a 30million euro price-tag on their new prodigy."
2. Essien was worth ca 38 mln euro in 2005, when he was bought by Chelsea. Are you really suggesting that he is not worth more than in 2005? Truth is he will not be sold at anything below 50 mln, while your Stankovic and such would be sold at prices stated or even less (like Vidic).
3. Gyan was bought for 8 mln euro in 2008. He has had a standout season at Rennes being their top scorer as well as the AFCoN top scorer. And he is now valued 6,2 mln? What the hell is up with that?
4. Annan - one of the biggest young stars in Europe (widely regarded as one of the biggest young talents in Europe) is worth less than Kumordzi, an unfit Appiah or Moussa Narry. As anyone knowing ANYTHING about African football that is just ludicrous... Annan is worth several times more than Kumordzi or Narry.
5. Vorsah has an official price tag of 5 mln pounds (around 6-7mln euro) and there is no shortage in interest, but he is priced 3 mln euro at Transfermarkt??? Ridiculous.
6. Serbia's Vidic is supposedly priced at 35 mln euro... Yet people are offering 23 mln euro for the player and the offers are being accepted... How is that? Right now the rumour mill says that Milan will give ManUtd Buffon, whilst ManUtd will give Milan Vidic + 20 mln euro. Buffon is supposedly worth 30,5 mln euro. The maths is 24,5 mln euro awry...
Now. Even going according to your own Transfermarkt (where Asamoah's pricing is ludicrous):
GHANA FIRST XI:
Kingson 0,5 mln
Vorsah 3 mln (underpriced)
Pantsil 4 mln (underpriced)
Mensah 5 mln
Addy 0,5 mln
Annan 1,75 mln (massively underpriced)
Asamoah 5,5 mln (massively underpriced)
Essien 38 mln (underpriced)
Muntari 16,5 mln (overpriced)
KP Boateng 4 mln
Gyan 6,2 mln (underpriced)
Total: 84,95 mln (plus I could add some 5-6 mln if I used the most expensive squad, not the most probable squad).
P.S. You used the AFCoN squad which was basically the u20 squad. That squad was missing like 8-10 players.
SERBIA FIRST XI (with the biggest prices, not the probable squads):
Stojkovic 1 mln
Vidic 35 mln (overpriced by some 12 mln euro)
Ivanovic 16 mln
Subotic 13 mln
Kolarov 9 mln
Kacar 9 mln (overpriced)
Krasic 18 mln
Kuzmanovic 9 mln (overpriced)
Stankovic 17,5 mln
Jovanovic 8,5 mln
Zigic 8 mln
Total: 144 mln
Now... the reason these guys may be lower priced is because most are young and directly coming from Ghana, where they were bought for ridiculously low sums. Thing is that the moment they are resold in Europe the price skyrockets. Age suggests that Ghana players will be more expensive while Serbian players will get cheaper...
Besides: Back in 2006 the Czech Rep. had a team worth some 5-6 times more than Ghana's but still got there asses whooped. And Ghana was a couple of classes better. Money isn't everything (even though the breakdown on Transfermarkt is quite ridiculous).
Now - quote me where I said that. I dare you. Quote me.
Lol. Anyone suggesting Serbia has a better midfield really needs their head checked.
Yes, they are. Asamoah, Annan, Ayew, Inkoom, Kumordzi, D. Boateng are all being sought out by the big clubs with players like Annan having their own private scouts. Vorsah and Prince-Boateng is in high demand, albeit not by the big guns (so far by teams like Everton). Kingston has had a wasted career at lowly clubs, but I would still prefer him to Krasic anyday. Much more talented and allrounded player. Possibly the best Ghanaian player of his generation (better than Essien).
Buaben has just had his first standout season for his club, where Dundee Utd is having an outstanding season mainly thanks to him. He was bought for almost next to nothing and his pricing is much higher than stated. There is no way in the world Dundee Utd would let him go for 750 000 euro Ridiculous pricing for the guy.
??? I compare and fail to see where the Serbians are playing in better teams...
Position after position:
Wigan = Wigan
Fulham < Chelsea
Lyon/Sunderland < ManUtd
Hoffenheim = Borussia
Porto = Lazio
Inter = Inter
Chelsea > Liverpool
Portsmouth = Hertha
Rosenborg = Moscow
Udinese = Stuttgart
Rennes = Valencia
They would probably get thrashed by Ghana's u20 side just like the England youth side was... Sorry, but Europe usually does not matter at youth events.
You really should watch some Ligue 1 football. I would choose Gyan over any of them any time any day.
I can't be reading this right.
Like I said, if you have a better link or better source, post it. And like I said, and you obviously don't get it. One thing is value one thing is pricetag! do you understand that, Pricetag=one thing Value= other thing. If a player is valued 10 million, hes club can still put a pricetag of 50 million. It doesen't mean anything. When and if soemone buys that dude you are mentioning for 30 mjill from udinese, I will say, he is 30mill worth. For now hes value is 6 million! Get it!
And when did Man Utd accept 20million offer for Vidic? LOL. Get your head cheked dude. You are not well obviously...
And LOL, dose clubs here:
Dortmund are better than Hoffenhaim, thats why they finished above them! Valencia and Rennes are two different leauges... CSKA, did you know they where in qurtar finals in champions leauge, and you compare them with Rosenborg, LOOOL LOOOL LOOOL LOOOOL LOOOL. You are, wow...
Ghanas U20 would beat Serbia U21 in your dreams...
Serbias team is very young aswell. Oldest player is Stankovic, than Vidic who is 28... All others are born in mid 80's and later...
I never praised Zigic the way you praise some players people never heard of. He is bench warmer, but didn't he score two this weekend?
And you say, all these players are playing all the time:
can you tell me wich clbs they play for?
And all this discussion about whos players are bette4r. Well I read sports news every day. And in the past 1-2 months these Serb players have been linked with 'big guns'.. And its onot Serbian media, its english, german, italina, and foreign media that make these rumors. Sp don't say its something I make up.
Krasic: Linked with Ac Milan, Bayern Munich, Juve, Man City...
Subotic: Linked with Arsenal, Man City, Man Utd.
Kolarov: Li´nked with Inter, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Fiorentina
Kacar: Linked with: Juve, HSV, Sttuttgart, Shalke 04
And Jovanovic is going to Liverpool. And with players already playing in clubs sucj as Chelsea, Man Utd, Inter Milan. You see how strong the squad is. If you want links I will Be happy to provide you...
And I never ever read anything about Ghana players being linked with Big Guns. If you have some links facts please post it. with ghana players being linked with big cluibs. And some foreign links please, not some links from Ghana fans...
And since you are a big african fan. Can you tell me why did Serbia have such an easy games vrs South Afric (3-1) and Algeria (3-0) Both teams beaten away... And while we are at it. Serbia have a frinedly vrs. Cameroon couple of weeks pre world cup, what is your prediction in that game?
Good for you to point out (and I get your point), but:
1. Hoffenheim have been highflyers since entering the Bundesliga. They finished 7 and will be 11 this season. Borussia are around 5/6. Not much difference between the teams with a slight nod towards Borussia. That said the head to head between the teams is 1 win each and 2 draws, with Hoffenheim having the superior head-to-head. Hoffenheim looks here to stay and due to their sudden rise they don't really have any points in the UEFA rankings for 4 entire seasons.
2. Valencia's last 5 seasons: 3, 4, 10, 6, 3/4 (sum 26/27)
Rennes last 5 seasons: 7, 4, 5, 6, 6/7 (28/29)
Not much between the sides in terms of league positions and La Liga arguably has less depth. But then again Valencia has had Champion's League exposure, while Rennes hasn't.
3. I give you Udinese-Stuttgart. Thought Udinese had better league positions in the last few seasons. But it's not much between the two (UEFA club rankings 51 vs 37)
4. CSKA Moscow vs Rosenborg: Currently no 5 club in Russia (6th league in Europe) vs no 1 club in Norway (22nd league in Europe)
According to UEFA Club Rankings CSKA is way above Rosenborg (21 to 96), so I'll agree. I could however throw in i.e. Milan or Marseille just to make the clubs look better. But I would be exchanging better players with players playing for better clubs... Which sort of underlines the fact that basing anything on clubs a given player plays for is crap.
I did... you ignored them.
Keeping it solely in Ghana... any site that has Kumordzi or Narry as a more valuable player than Annan is just pathetic.
Just read this (you have Serbia's Subotic at 10 and Annan at 8):
You really should visit the rumour mill a bit...
First XI Ghana players 21 or younger: between 3 and 6
First XI Ghana players 25 or younger: between 7
Plus Essien (26), Mensah (27), Pantsil (28) and Kingson (31)
First XI Serbia players 21 or younger: 0
First XI Serbia players 25 or younger: 4
I'm sorry. Ghana's team is very young. Serbia's plainly isn't. It may be young in comparison with Italy, but it's old in comparison with Ghana.
So? Prince Tagoe is a benchwarmer, but didn't he score 2 this weekend...
Why? Can't you google it?
Asamoah: Strongly linked with Arsenal, Chelsea and officially linked with Juventus
Annan: Linked with ManUtd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton, as well as other English teams as Wigan, Blackburn
Kumordzi: Linked with Arsenal and officially linked with Olympiakos, Sevilla, Panathinaikos (all offers so far have been rejected by his club)
Gyan: Linked with Everton (strongest), Arsenal, ManUtd, AC Milan
Derek Boateng: Officially linked to Valencia as Banega replacement
Inkoom: Was linked with Barcelona
Vorsah: Officially linked with Everton and Wolverhampton
Ayew: Linked with Arsenal and regarded as 'Not for sale' by Marseille
Essien: Not linked to anyone, cuz frankly no one could afford to buy him.
Players like Buaben came out of nowhere so he's yet to really be noticed, but his exploits for Dundee have helped them finish third in the Scottish League (I believe CM 2010 doesn't even feature the player).
Plus Adiyiah has moved to Milan, Badu and Mensah (the young one) to Udinese, Addae to Parma and Addy to FC Porto. Plus you have loads of young Ghanaians at clubs lke Marseille, Milan, Inter, Real Madrid with some of them supposedly extreme talents (Jordan Ayew and Edmund Hottor come to mind).
Besides... being linked to a club hardly means anything. Signing means something. Arsenal is probably linked to every hot talent out there...
Selective blindness? I read a lot of football news - every day several hours... I can understand the likes of Kumordzi and such might have gone under your radar, but not knowing about Asamoah or Derek Boateng just undermines your knowledge...
Lol... are you really comparing those teams to Ghana? With all my sympathy to South Africa it's like talking about Serbia based on matches played against Poland and Austria.
As to Serbia-Cameroon: Given that Cameroon's first XI is Transfermarkt value 122 mln euro Cameroon should draw against Serbia's ca 130 mln first XI. And naturally they should be over 40% better than Ghana (not to mention that Cameroon players play for Arsenal, Lyon, Monaco, Inter, Espanyol, Lille, Schalke, Ajax, Marseille or Champions League likely Tottenham) ... and yet Ghana's reserve team is the AFCoN silver medalist, not Cameroon...
Le Guen + Cameroon should be a strong outfit. Good defence with very good defensive players, but relatively untested and new (Nkoulou, Bassong, Assou Ekotto and Mbia have played just 1 match together). Plus a very good creative midfield and ETo'o up front. Lacking a second striker and sometimes the team seems to lack the killer instinct in games they dominate. They played some remarkably good games under Le Guen, but have
I wouldn't put much into the Serbia game as Le Guen will be experimenting and the result isn't important,
What did you do? You postet 3 links!!! And you say I ignored them? One of your links is about Vidic being swapped with Buffon, with Man Utd paying 20million in addition, LOL Do you really believe that yourself? Its the crazyest rumor ever, and it would never happen in million years. Look at what Man Utd fans think about that: http://www.redcafe.net/f9/buffon-united-vidic-293068/
You didn't post any link about players values, and you never postet anything that proves that asamoah is 30million worth. You just talk nonsense. The other two links you posted was abpout Subotic and that guy from rosenborg. It has nothing to do with anything dude. You are so so so ... well you know it your self...
Post some links where all those players are linked with big clubs and some genuine links, not some crappy sites noone has never heard of, like the one with Vidic buffon swap, lol...
LOL, so its a rumor that man utd have accepted offer of 20mill? Do you know how stupid that sounds? If they have accpeted anything, than its not a rumor than its a fact! LoL...
I don't want to argue with you any more about players values and so on. I think Serbia is class above Ghana in every department, and you will not make me change my mind no matter how many post you make.Your posts just prove me right every time, so keep up the good work. And your posts pretty much make no sense what soever lol at all... And I obviously can't change yours. So lets stick it to that.
I am not compairing those teams with Ghana, I just have the impression that you think african teams are much stronger than European teams. And since Serbia have only played those african nations recently than its logical I mention them, and not some other team they haven't played...
I also think cameroon is strong, thats why I really am looking forward to that match. And result is not important, but I don't think the teams will 'experiment' too much. Becuase that will be the last game before world cup and I am sure the coaches would like to see the strongest line ups(more or less). I think Ghana and Cameroon seem very similar in their styles and player vise. So it will be a good test, thats for sure...
Who says its unrealistic? You? And yet Juventus are willing to negotiate... I can see it going down to 20 mln, but 7 mln from 30 mln? In your dreams.
We'll see how the Buffon-Vidic exchange pans out
I think Ghana's midfield is several classes better than Serbia's that its a no boner and any suggestions that Serbia has a better midfield are ludicrous as faras I'm concerned. GK and attack is about level with Serbia having a better defence but much much much much worse DM. So I'll stick to that
Which European teams? Which African teams? I believe Ghana is the strongest team in Africa. And no transfermarkt or FIFA rankings will make me believe differently. That said Ghana has had so many injuries lately that I wouldn't bet on the team to perform to potential...
You also played Cote d'Ivoire, where you miraculously manage a 3:2 loss.
BTW The Algeria game never happened according to FIFA...
Le Guen doesn't have much choice. He dropped two players before the World Cup and has a lot of new call-ups he has to test.
You would be very wrong. Not very similar in style. Ghana is sort of like Italy and Cameroon like France. Ghana are focused in midfield dominance, while Cameroon focus on attack and wings. Plus different formations.
Transfermarkt African teams first XI:
Ghana 85 mln
Nigeria 94 mln
Cameroon 122 mln
Cote d'Ivoire 139 mln
3 times African Champions Egypt 25,2 mln
Something is definitely not right here...
And I told you ten times now, if you have an official link or anything official that says asamoah is 30milion worth like you say, feel free to post it. he is 5.5million worth , officially, no matter if you like it or not...
Lol, you actually believe, that man utd will give Vidic and pay juve 20 million? It shows a little about how clever you are...
Its the same if I said Chelsea will give Essien to Juve and 20million for Buffon, would you say that is realistic?
As I said before, Serbia is classes above Ghana in every department, including the goal keeper, who is the weakset link. But since he is keeping ghanas goalie to 3 choise in the club, says something about Ghanas quality in that department..
I said recently, not 4 years ago. Where Serbia where in deep shit. I can go back to pre 98 world cup, warm up against a very strong Nigeria side (strongest african side at that time) where Serbia and Montenegro than ( or Yugoslavia, but consistent only by Serbia and Montenegro) trashed Nigeria 3-0, a couple of weeks before world cup. So thats why I said recently!
And Algeria game did happen according to Fifa, it was official friendly match. You really talk some real nonsense all the time. Its really unbelievable, you are truly acting like a WUM. Post any link when you talk some shit like that? Post a link that says it was not an official match... And I see on other topics aswell. Its always you against everybody else. No body agrees with you, can't you see it? You have your own deluded opinion, and you have no clue about football at all. Can't you stick to some other sport? This sport is not for you, you are to slow for it...
The game that didn't happen according to fifa was against Japan, where only players from serbian leauge played, and still won over Japan 3-0 away in a packed stadium.
And I told you ten times now - I already posted it.
I'm just quoting transfer gossip... I understand you may not like it, but Vidic has been mediocre this season...
No. Cuz Chelsea would never sell Essien. Unless they could exchange him for Messi...
As I said before, Ghana is classes above Serbia in midfield, but weaker in defence. Other positions are more or less equal.
No it wasn't. They used too many subs and it didn't happen according to FIFA
I wonder if you'll accept that I was evidently right when I post the one and only link that matters - FIFA.com. Go here and tell me when you find the Algeria-Serbia game
Either you stop the insults or the posts will be deleted.
Sorry. I have a tendency to imitate the language of the opponent I'll self-edit.
OMG you surely are a WUM...
You didn't qoute anything, you wrote that Man Utd have ACCEPTED, thats what you wrote, not me, read some of your posts back, and you will see it, if you can't remember what you wrote a day ago....
I know Chelsea would never sell Essien. And no club in the world would pay them over 38 million, thats a fact...
You can keep repeating it. But it wont change the fact, that Serbia is classes above Ghana in every department...
LOL, and again you come with some link, that only shows some results, come with something concrete, some text from fifa that says it is not an official match... I have some links too,
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1177391/index.html#rehearsals yield mixed results
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1177391/index.html#rehearsals yield mixed results
Why would they (fifa) mention Serbia and Algeria with all the other teams ( frindely games calender,lol and you say its not official) if the match is not official?
And I think that Serbian FA , where I read about those games know a little better than you. And according to them, ´game against Japan is not official, while the one vrs Algeria is! Every link you post, make no sense... If you keep posting links from wiki, and some Ghanian homesites, than just spare your time. cause Im not even reading that nonsense... And now this link from Fifa, that says nothing about the game is official or not, lol...
I'll give you this one. And rephrase: Offers for Vidic at 23 mln euro ARE NOT BEING REJECTED. Better now?
The only fact is that you apparently know nothing about football.
You can keep repeating it and uses words like 'fact'. But the only fact is that you have your biased opinion which is not a fact, but extremely subjective truth.
The is nothing more concrete and official than the FIFA results listing. If you knew ANYTHING about football you would know it. Apart from being too stuck up to admit your wrong you also don't seem to notice when your opponent is trying to joke.
Original source is our own Bigsoccer Forum:
ORANJE: "Algeria 0-3 Serbia on 3 March removed from the (FIFA) records. Serbia used 11 substitutes."
I also double checked with FIFA rankings and the Algeria game WAS NOT COUNTED IN MARCH! While the Japan game actually WAS!
Plain and simple: You are wrong. I am right.
I will answer you, with a qoute from you...
''You can keep repeating it and uses words like 'fact'. But the only fact is that you have your biased opinion which is not a fact, but extremely subjective truth''
And it can be that fifa removed it as official match because of substitutes, and ´so what. I didn't read anywhere and how the fk should I know? It doesen't matter. You brought it up, about if it was official or not. For what reason did you do that in the first place? Just so it sounds like it was a 'less' of a victory because it wasen't official? You truely are pathetic...
LOL. I mentioned it as a joke. A wink-wink. Your putting too much anger into every response. It was meant as nothing more. Serbia beat Algeria soundly and squarely. FIFA honoured match or not. You searching to hard at trying to make every thing I say to be malicious. I would have used a smiley but the forum didn't allow me to add any more smilies.
Well... at least you admitted you were wrong. We're making progress.
Well as long as we are getting somewhere... And it didn't sound like a joke at all. You said it in one sentence. Algeria match was not official. Can't see the joke in that... LOL I don't mind addmitting being wrong, not like I was wrong with I don't knoiw what. I just thought it was official, wich in the begining also was. Never heard they changed it to unofficial. But like I said, both teams played pretty much strongest squads at the time, official match or not...
Sorry if I sound angry, not my intention...
Ehm no. Or do you see many Egyptian players transferred for large sums?
You know the value doesn't indicate how good a player is, rather how much other clubs are willing to pay for him.
I agree. And that was my point.
When will you do that, i think never, that will be real progress!
Well... how would you know if I admit when I'm wrong? Like you said yourself:
Besides... you wouldn't have to look to far back to be proven wrong... look three posts back
Who do you think will advance out of the real group of death?
Germany v Australia 2-0
Serbia v Ghana 0-1
Germany v Serbia 0-0
Australia v Ghana 2-1
Germany v Ghana 1-0
Australia v Serbia 1-1
Germany 7 +3 gd
Australia 4 -1 gd
Ghana 3 -1 gd
Serbia 2 -1 gd