Whisk(e)y

Discussion in 'Food & Travel' started by chiladd, Jan 28, 2006.

  1. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Looking at these prices, it appears to be steeper than the few hundred I imagined. If I can't find something reasonable, he might just end up with a 40 ouncer. ;) :D
     
  2. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't blame you--the thought is great, but the great whiskies at that age are both scarce on the ground and expensive as shit. I'd really recommend two 20 year olds; it's not the same as one 40 year old, I know, but your options would really open up and you could get some great whisky at better value for your dollar (or pound).

    Plus, this latter option would definitely keep you somewhere within your "few hundred" limit.
     
  3. Randy36

    Randy36 New Member

    May 9, 2007
    Houston
    With all this talk about expensive single malts and what some people are prepared to pay let's say for a 40 year old Glenfiddich I find fascinating. I doubt there are any Russiam oligarchs in this forum but I read recently where one of those rich Russians purchased the oldest Bowman single malt bottled in Islay in 1850 for about $60,000.

    There is also a guy at our club who claims he spent $2,500 for a 40 year old Glenfiddich for his dad who just turned 70 and enjoys single malt scotch. The old saying of "people with champagne tastes and beer pocket books" came to mind.

    It raises two questions:-

    1. Are we now approaching or at the apex of a bubble market in whisky?
    2. If so, what would a crash bring?
     
  4. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    1: no
    2: see 1
     
  5. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Agreed - as long as there are people with more money than they can spend, it's going to stay hyper-inflated.
     
  6. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Not even sure it is inflated. There are many good bottles available at reasonable prices, especially as compared to grape products. There haven't been any big surges in price to suggest any sort of fad or bubble, and whisky is reaching new populations all the time. They have manufactured scarcity with some limited release and old barrels...they could drop off some, but I don't know why they would.
     
  7. Randy36

    Randy36 New Member

    May 9, 2007
    Houston
    I guess if there was a genuine whisky crash coming it would most likely mean closed distilleries rather than slashing of consumer price levels.
     
  8. zpjohnstone

    zpjohnstone Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There will not be a 'whiskey crash'.

    Those crazy prices you cite are outliers and are the perfect example of the law of diminishing returns. . . yes, the market is finding room for more expensive offerings, but quality Whiskey can still be had for a reasonable prices. If anything, I would argue that a bottle of commodity-level whiskey is much better now that it was 30 years ago due to improvements in production/quality-control and such.
     
  9. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Did a favor for a friend and got this in return: :D

    [​IMG]

    As far as the previously discussed 40 yr old scotch, the cheapest bottle I could find locally was $2200. He's going to have to settle for a pair of concert tickets and this:
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    So I've been on a Scotch/Irish whiskey kick recently and decided to bump this. Found a bar that does whisky tastings every month. Had some Readbreast, which is single pot still Irish whiskey and it is phenomenal. Definitely have a bottle of that sitting at home!

    They also did a Islay region tasting. My favorite from the group was Bruichladdich Rocks (the person in charge said it is the least peaty Islay malt). The other two were Ardbeg 10 year and Laguvalin (sp?) 16 year. They were quite good as well.

    Got to enjoy some Laphroaig 15 year on Thanksgiving. It was excellent.
     
  11. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    If you like stuff from the Islands that isn't peaty, you should try Scapa.
     
  12. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    I'll have to find it somewhere. Only Island singles I've had are Highland Park and Talisker. Definitely like Highland Park more, but Talisker is good in small doses . A lot going on there.
     
  13. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Try the new batch of Laphroaig 10yo cask strength. I love the 15 as well, but nothing beats Lappy above 50% abv!
     
  14. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    I'm a big fan of the Quarter Cask.
     
  15. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Me too (so says my avatar), but for me heaven on earth is a good single-cask Laphroaig at cask strength.
    Ironically, when I moved to Paris I could only bring 2 bottles of whisky with me and neither of them was a Laphroaig.
    Whisky is incredibly pricey here. For my money and for the selection I'm better off buying from the UK, even though the dollar is weaker against the pound than the euro.
     
  16. 96Squig

    96Squig Member

    Feb 4, 2004
    Hanover
    Club:
    Hannover 96
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I don't know much of Whiskey, but recently some German companies decided to make some as well, one of them being Slyrs. I tried it during the holidays and have to say I quite like it, and even my brother who does drink Whiskey quite regularly said it was good. Has anybody of you had the chance to try it?
     
  17. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    nope, but I'll have to recommend it to the place that does the tastings. They are looking to have a tasting involving whisky not from Scotland, Ireland, or the US.
     
  18. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Speyside region tasting tonight, should be a good time.
     
  19. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Cragganmore 12 year
    Macallan
    Glenfarclas12 year

    Glenfaclas was my favorite
     
  20. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You might try the Glenfarclas 105, a very affordable and delicious cask strength whisky. Others you might like would be the Macallan cask strength and the Aberlour A'bunadh, both excellent drams in their own right.
     
  21. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Powers
    Paddy
    Bushmills 16 year

    Sampled those last night. I'd had Powers many times and hadn't had Paddy since I was in Ireland in '04. The Bushmills 16 was very good as well.
     
  22. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006

    Is Paddy now available in the US?
     
  23. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    I was told it was, started in Feb.

    The lady who runs the tasting told me, and she also said she didn't know how long it would be around so she had to include it in a tasting.
     
  24. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006

    Sweet

    http://www.barbizmag.com/paddy-irish-whiskey-to-reach-us-shores

     
  25. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL

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