Which teams produce the best youth players?

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  1. Lspence

    Lspence New Member

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    Which teams in Argentina produce the best youth players?

    Claims must be backed up with examples

    Now I am expecting most people to say Boca or River. But it will be interesting to see whether other teams make the list. For example, Estudiantes, Argentinos etc..


  2. ElMuneco

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    Are you serious? Look at the statistics. It's River by far. Do I need to post a list of players that have come out of the River youth ranks and are having successful careers?? Crespo, Saviola, Aimar, and Gallardo are some of the names that come to mind.
  3. Trabant

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    It's River Plate indeed, although some other Argentinian clubs are also producing a lot of good players. River Plate produce the most because they have a good youth academy but also because of their selling policy. If they sell their best players once again, the youth will get their playing minutes and if they impress they will keep playing.

    Some examples within the last few years:
    Augusto Fernandez
    Diego Buananotte
    Juan Pablo Carrizo
    Diego Saviola
    Gonzalo Higuain
    Javier Mascherano
    Pablo Aimar
    Andres D'Alessandro
  4. golazo26

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    Racing Club have been historically strong with integrating youth players. They are one of the top five teams in Argentina and their nickname is La Academia (The Academy). Recently they haven't been doing that well, but some recent names coming out of their youth teams would be Diego Milito, Lisandro Lopez, Maxi Moralez, Sergio Romero...


  5. efernandez9

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    World Soccer has published a list of the "50 most exciting teenagers in world football" .... in their November 2007 Issue

    Sadick Adams Ashanti Ghana
    Ismail Aissati PSV Holland
    Alexandre Pato Milan Brazil
    Anderson Man Utd Brazil
    Gareth Bale Spurs England
    Giovani dos Santos Barca Mexico
    Sergio Aguero (independiente)Atletico de madrid
    Ever Banega Boca Argentina

    Bojan Krkic Barca Spain
    Breno Sao paulo Brazil
    Gerardo Bruna Liverpool Argentina
    Diego Buonanotte River Argentina

    Macauley Chrisantus Abuja Nigeria
    Angel di Maria Benfica Argentina
    Franco di Santo Audax Italiano Argentina
    Karim Benzema Lyon France
    Dumitru Copil Hearts Romania
    Kermit Erasmus Sundown Utd South Africa
    Fabio Fluminense Brazil
    Fabio Coentrao Benfica Portugal
    Marouane Fellaini Standard Liege Belgium
    Guilherme Cruzeiro Brazil
    Nour Hadhria club Africain Tunisia
    Rabul Ibrahim Sporting Lisbon Nigeria
    Damian Ismodes Sporting Cristal Peru
    Lorenzo de Silvestri Lazio Italy
    Kerlon Cruzeiro Brazil
    Toni Kroos Bayern Germany
    Lulinha Corinthians Brazil
    Sapol Mani Maranatha Togo
    Juan Manuel Mata Valencia Spain
    Cristian Nazarith America Cali Colombia
    Aaron Niguez Valencia Spain
    Daniel Opare Ashanti Ghana
    Ransford Osei Kesseben Ghana
    Fran Merida Arsenal Spain
    Nikolay Mihaylov Liverpool (Twente) Bulgaria
    Mesut Ozil Schalke Germany
    Renato Agusto Flamengo Brazil
    Micah Richards Manchester City England
    Andrea Russotto Treviso Italy
    Henri Saivet Bordeaux France
    Alexis Sanchez River Chile
    Marek Suchy Slavia Prague Czech Republic
    Sergio Tejera Chelsea Spain
    Ivan Rakitic Schalke Croatia
    Abdou Traore Rosenborg Burkina Faso
    Gregory van der Wiel Ajax Holland
    Carlos Vela Arsenal (Osasuna) Mexico
    Theo Walcott Arsenal England


    I will like to know where the players listed in RED, came from (lower divisions of what club)
  6. Lspence

    Lspence New Member

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    Interesting...I must admit I thought Maxi Morales and Kun Aguero were outstanding in the world youth championships. How is Maxi Moralez doing?
  7. golazo26

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    Racing had to sell Moralez just before the summer transfer window closed to a Russian team because of some financial problems at the club. I heard he was having some trouble settling in at the club, but that was a few weeks ago.
  8. El Mandrake

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    Argenitno Juniors have the nick name of semillera..means the nursery...have produced legends to say the least...to name a few off the top of the head

    Mardonna
    Cambiasso
    Pocho Insua
    Riquelme
    Redondo
    Sorin
    and the rest i forget

    but river by far...they scout them all over argentina and colombia,ect.
    river was interested in messi

    that is why god bless our small country of few inhabitants....all the teams from the 7th to the 1st crank out some of the greatest talents where as some richer more populated nations are unable to do so........Aguante Argentina
  9. Andrés_

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    Worth mentioning that along with Argentinos the different clubs from Rosario always got good players from their youth teams.
  10. BandaSangre

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    River.

    In the last 15 years:

    Ariel Ortega
    Matías Almeyda
    Hernán Crespo
    Marcelo Gallardo
    Pablo Aimar
    Javier Saviola
    Martin Demichelis
    Javier Mascherano
    Andres D'alessandro
    Fernando Cavenaghi
    Gonzalo Higuaín
    Augusto Fernandez
    Juan Pablo Carrizo

    In Others ages: Di Stefano, Rossi, Pedernera, Peucelle, Zarate, Sivori, Moreno, Alonso, Mas, Passarella, Ramón Diaz, Cannigia, etc.
  11. bosterosoy

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    The obvious answer is River and Boca and for obvious reasons. Both have produced incredible amounts of talents

    but Racing always seems to get good youth players. Many of the U-20 WC champs were from Racing and if the club had better management they would be really good. Examples: GK Sergio Romero, D Gabriel Mercado, M Claudio Yacob, M/F Maxi Moralez, Alejandro Cabral and Matias Sanchez all came from Racing and all played in the WYC team

    Recently Lanus is the best (meaning last couple of years, not traditionally over 15 years like people are saying about River). They just won the championship with many players that were brought up through the ranks for many years and they reaped the rewards. Examples: Nelson Benítez, Salomón, Pelletieri, Velázquez y Fritzler. Abajo, Hoyos, Seba Blanco, el Laucha Acosta y Biglieri.

    Banfield had been good a couple of years back, but I don't think so anymore. Datolo, Bilos, Palletta, San Martin, Luciano Civelli, Cristian Luchetti, Emiliano Armetranos, and Mariano Barbosa. Also, I'm not sure which division it was (i think it's the 7a or 6a) but Banfield is close or already has won it.

    And I can't believe nobody has mentioned Velez Sarsfield. They are a team that is known for relying completely on there youth development (fans were pissed when Lavolpe took over and brought in 7/8 players via transfers) and have brought up many good players. Not only that, but their management is also smart enough to refuse to sell most of these players to other Argentinian clubs. Instead they sell them straight to Europe/Mexico. Examples: The Zarates, Damian Escudero, Gracian and some others.
  12. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator Staff Member

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    Of the last 2 Youth World Cup teams that won the titles in 2005 and 2007, there was no River player on them, 99% sure of that. That should speak by itself of the current form of River's youth system ...


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  13. bosterosoy

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    ya River has been having a slump lately
    people here have said over the last 15 years they've brought up some great players, but most of those came 10-15 years ago
  14. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator Staff Member

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    Um.. no. Players like Cavenaghi, D'Alessandro, Saviola, Mascherano, Demichelis, Carrizo, Higuain, Lux, Falcao, etc. were produced in the last few years (all of them played for River this decade).

    As for River now, Carrizo just recently came out of the lower divisions, and other big talents like Augusto Fernandez, Diego Buonanotte, and Nicolas Domingo have showed us that they know how to play. Then, of course, there's the more younger players, who we haven't seen much of yet. But look at River's lower division scores and you'll see that we still are one of the best (if not the best) producers of young talent.
  15. Andrés_

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    In Racing you shouldn't forget about "chaco" Torres and Diego Milito.

    If i recall correctly Luchetti came from River's youth but moved away quickly. And don't forget the other Civelli, Renato who has been playing in France for a while before going to Gimnasia.

    Boca had a bunch of good keepers but for some reason they never got the chance to stay, like Muñoz, Wilfredo Caballero, the unfortunately deceased Eberto, and now Pablo García who looks promising yet he's the 3rd option for Boca, and now that Migliore will more likely be gone Boca is looking for sub for Caranta why won't they give Garcia a chance at the bench even?

    At Vélez don't forget about, Pellerano, Somoza, Ereros(who at an early age scored a hat-trick in a Libertadores match) and Jonas Gutierrez.

    I think the issue with River is that their youth players aren't given that much chances to show themselves since River just keeps singing outsiders instead of give place to their youths, or they do it when it doesn't matter like now when they don't even have a coach. Where are Antonio and Morales Neumann?
  16. Dr. Know

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    Passarella was a product of Argentinos Juniors. River wasn't even his first senior club.
  17. locoxriver

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    Antonio is behind other fowards like Radamel Falcao Garcia, Andres Rios, Marco Ruben, Mauro Rosales, Diego Buonanotte (when he occupies a midfielder-foward role), etc. Not only that, but there are several other young talented players in that position: last week, for example, we saw Almerares play vs. Olimpo.

    As for Morales Neumann, last I heard he did not renew his contract and signed for San Lorenzo. That was a year ago, so I am not sure if he's still there or not.
  18. Lspence

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    This Almerares kid can't be that talented if he played in a side that got walloped 4-0 by a poor Olimpo side on the weekend. :)

    But I doubt anyone can really question River's credentials for developing youth players when you look at this list of players

    Ariel Ortega
    Matías Almeyda
    Hernán Crespo
    Marcelo Gallardo
    Pablo Aimar
    Javier Saviola
    Martin Demichelis
    Javier Mascherano
    Andres D'alessandro

    There are some household Argentine players here. When you have Crespo, Saviola amongst your alumni, you have to be taken seriously.
  19. Andrés_

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    Yeah i remember back in the U20WC in 2003 they were talking a lot about Almerares yet to me he always looked average.
  20. BandaSangre

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    No, you're wrong.

    Passarella began his career very late in their hometown club (Sarmiento de Junin) and then he pased to River at age of 20.

    But River is his house, River created a man, and a professional.
  21. Hercules-GR

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    Can anyone give me some informations about Alte. Brown defenders,the team of Second Division ,any informations?

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